Which Power Conference Is Surprisingly Absent From the Pre-Season Top 10

DerekJohnson

https://sportscasting.com/ncaa/which-power-conference-is-surprisingly-absent-from-the-pre-season-top-10/

whatshouldicareabout

This article makes the mistake of thinking the Pac-12 is a power conference

H_D

Thanks

2001400ex

Surprisingly?

LoneStarDawg

I’m surprised you’re surprised

DerekJohnson

Welcome to Larry Scott's America

Pitchfork51

Lol no mention of Browning leaving

oregonblitzkrieg

If I read one more article praising the great Justin Hubert, who is such a dud, I will shake and vomit.

When Justin Herbert decided to return for his senior season, he instantly made the Ducks the favorite to win the Pac-12. Herbert has the size, speed, and accuracy to make all the throws, and was the consensus No. 1 overall pick had he come out for the 2019 NFL Draft.

Wrong. When Hubert decided to return, he instantly made the Ducks the favorite for 4th place in the PAC North.

Pitchfork51

Honestly bias aside is he actually that good?

Everyone talks about how good he is but I don't remember him much from our game. Wasn't he injured most of the year?

Has he ever actually done anything?

oregonblitzkrieg

Pitchfork51 said:

Honestly bias aside is he actually that good?

Everyone talks about how good he is but I don't remember him much from our game. Wasn't he injured most of the year?

Has he ever actually done anything?

He's a bozo who throws more deep balls than short, complete-able passes. He freezes up fills his socks whenever he faces an adverse situation. He is Jake Browning's brother from another mother.

dtd

Pitchfork51 said:

Honestly bias aside is he actually that good?

Everyone talks about how good he is but I don't remember him much from our game. Wasn't he injured most of the year?

Has he ever actually done anything?

tldr: prolly, no, no.

He was bad against ASU last year, missed a number of big throws.

He throws a great deep ball, is generally very accurate on high difficulty throws, but struggles at reads and touch on the shorter routes. He was hurt his senior? year in HS, didn't win the starting job until week 5? his freshman year at Oregon, broke his collarbone and missed 5 games his sophomore season, and last year had the worst receiving corps at Oregon since the '80s. One of those twatter analysts counted 52 drops last year. Probably the biggest issue with him, other than the drops, is timing, and perhaps that's related to experience. I dunno.

Go through these throws and tell me he doesn't have elite physical talent. It's a between the ears issue, maybe it's due to missing his senior year in HS and 25% of the games at Oregon. Also, look at the windows he's throwing into. There's hardly any separation at all. Gone are the days where Darron Thomas could throw to a dude without a defender within 10 yards and people would say "yeah but only cuz he was wide open", but now Herbert gets shit on because dudes can't get open? Okay. As a sophomore he was at 67% completion at over 9ypa. Go back through the stats and look at the P5 guys who do that each year. Lotta Heisman winners(not suggesting he will even be in the conversation).

https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/status/1038093448157569024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1038093448157569024&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fscoopduck.com%2Fforums%2F2%2Ftopics%2F20708%2F2

Pitchfork51

"he's got physical talent but a between the ears issue"

So he's not good at football? Maybe he should run fucking track.

GrundleStiltzkin

Pitchfork51 said:

"he's got physical talent but a between the ears issue"

So he's not good at football? Maybe he should run fucking track.

Herbie's got all of the tools, none of the buildings.

RoadDawg55

He’s an inconsistent QB that has talent. He’s big, has a strong arm, and has made highlight throws. He’s not anything special.

Gladstone

If UW had Herbert instead of Browning we are +2 more wins last year. Herbert is pretty overrated though. A slightly better Locker. If you think I'm being a UW homer, let's look at the tape vs a garbage Arizona team after they beat UW and controlled their own destiny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLjqcnuCF34

dtd

Gladstone said:

If UW had Herbert instead of Browning we are +2 more wins last year. Herbert is pretty overrated though. A slightly better Locker. If you think I'm being a UW homer, let's look at the tape vs a garbage Arizona team after they beat UW and controlled their own destiny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLjqcnuCF34

He might end up a better pro, one of those guys who is better with better dudes around him. Go through that twitter thread. Or he's one of those dime a dozen blue chip college basketball wings who are 6'7 and jump through the roof but can't shoot.

dnc

dtd said:

Pitchfork51 said:

Honestly bias aside is he actually that good?

Everyone talks about how good he is but I don't remember him much from our game. Wasn't he injured most of the year?

Has he ever actually done anything?

tldr: prolly, no, no.

He was bad against ASU last year, missed a number of big throws.

He throws a great deep ball, is generally very accurate on high difficulty throws, but struggles at reads and touch on the shorter routes. He was hurt his senior? year in HS, didn't win the starting job until week 5? his freshman year at Oregon, broke his collarbone and missed 5 games his sophomore season, and last year had the worst receiving corps at Oregon since the '80s. One of those twatter analysts counted 52 drops last year. Probably the biggest issue with him, other than the drops, is timing, and perhaps that's related to experience. I dunno.

Go through these throws and tell me he doesn't have elite physical talent. It's a between the ears issue, maybe it's due to missing his senior year in HS and 25% of the games at Oregon. Also, look at the windows he's throwing into. There's hardly any separation at all. Gone are the days where Darron Thomas could throw to a dude without a defender within 10 yards and people would say "yeah but only cuz he was wide open", but now Herbert gets shit on because dudes can't get open? Okay. As a sophomore he was at 67% completion at over 9ypa. Go back through the stats and look at the P5 guys who do that each year. Lotta Heisman winners(not suggesting he will even be in the conversation).

https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/status/1038093448157569024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1038093448157569024&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fscoopduck.com%2Fforums%2F2%2Ftopics%2F20708%2F2

That's not a great throw. Catchable, but not great.

Obviously better than Browning.

We heard the "butt the drops" excuses with Lockner for years (and he was Kearse'd with Jermaine, after all) but his projected increase in completion percentage once he got to the pros never materialized. He was just as inconsistent. My guess is Herbert's career arc is slightly higher altitude but ultimately the same trajectory. We'll see. He's definitely got plenty of arm talent.

dtd

dnc said:

dtd said:

Pitchfork51 said:

Honestly bias aside is he actually that good?

Everyone talks about how good he is but I don't remember him much from our game. Wasn't he injured most of the year?

Has he ever actually done anything?

tldr: prolly, no, no.

He was bad against ASU last year, missed a number of big throws.

He throws a great deep ball, is generally very accurate on high difficulty throws, but struggles at reads and touch on the shorter routes. He was hurt his senior? year in HS, didn't win the starting job until week 5? his freshman year at Oregon, broke his collarbone and missed 5 games his sophomore season, and last year had the worst receiving corps at Oregon since the '80s. One of those twatter analysts counted 52 drops last year. Probably the biggest issue with him, other than the drops, is timing, and perhaps that's related to experience. I dunno.

Go through these throws and tell me he doesn't have elite physical talent. It's a between the ears issue, maybe it's due to missing his senior year in HS and 25% of the games at Oregon. Also, look at the windows he's throwing into. There's hardly any separation at all. Gone are the days where Darron Thomas could throw to a dude without a defender within 10 yards and people would say "yeah but only cuz he was wide open", but now Herbert gets shit on because dudes can't get open? Okay. As a sophomore he was at 67% completion at over 9ypa. Go back through the stats and look at the P5 guys who do that each year. Lotta Heisman winners(not suggesting he will even be in the conversation).

https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/status/1038093448157569024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1038093448157569024&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fscoopduck.com%2Fforums%2F2%2Ftopics%2F20708%2F2

That's not a great throw. Catchable, but not great.

Obviously better than Browning.

We heard the "butt the drops" excuses with Lockner for years (and he was Kearse'd with Jermaine, after all) but his projected increase in completion percentage once he got to the pros never materialized. He was just as inconsistent. My guess is Herbert's career arc is slightly higher altitude but ultimately the same trajectory. We'll see. He's definitely got plenty of arm talent.

Which throw? There are tons of them in that thread, most of which doogs are already shitting themselves over when Eason makes one. Also, Lockner? Come the fuck on, they're nothing alike. Jack was an all pro jumbo WR playing QB. 54% career completion? Lazy as fuck comp.

dnc

dtd said:

dnc said:

dtd said:

Pitchfork51 said:

Honestly bias aside is he actually that good?

Everyone talks about how good he is but I don't remember him much from our game. Wasn't he injured most of the year?

Has he ever actually done anything?

tldr: prolly, no, no.

He was bad against ASU last year, missed a number of big throws.

He throws a great deep ball, is generally very accurate on high difficulty throws, but struggles at reads and touch on the shorter routes. He was hurt his senior? year in HS, didn't win the starting job until week 5? his freshman year at Oregon, broke his collarbone and missed 5 games his sophomore season, and last year had the worst receiving corps at Oregon since the '80s. One of those twatter analysts counted 52 drops last year. Probably the biggest issue with him, other than the drops, is timing, and perhaps that's related to experience. I dunno.

Go through these throws and tell me he doesn't have elite physical talent. It's a between the ears issue, maybe it's due to missing his senior year in HS and 25% of the games at Oregon. Also, look at the windows he's throwing into. There's hardly any separation at all. Gone are the days where Darron Thomas could throw to a dude without a defender within 10 yards and people would say "yeah but only cuz he was wide open", but now Herbert gets shit on because dudes can't get open? Okay. As a sophomore he was at 67% completion at over 9ypa. Go back through the stats and look at the P5 guys who do that each year. Lotta Heisman winners(not suggesting he will even be in the conversation).

https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/status/1038093448157569024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1038093448157569024&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fscoopduck.com%2Fforums%2F2%2Ftopics%2F20708%2F2

That's not a great throw. Catchable, but not great.

Obviously better than Browning.

We heard the "butt the drops" excuses with Lockner for years (and he was Kearse'd with Jermaine, after all) but his projected increase in completion percentage once he got to the pros never materialized. He was just as inconsistent. My guess is Herbert's career arc is slightly higher altitude but ultimately the same trajectory. We'll see. He's definitely got plenty of arm talent.

Which throw? There are tons of them in that thread, most of which doogs are already shitting themselves over when Eason makes one. Also, Lockner? Come the fuck on, they're nothing alike. Jack was an all pro jumbo WR playing QB. 54% career completion? Lazy as fuck comp.

The one in the tweet you posted. I didn't see any thread.

I'm not shitting myself over anything Eason has done so don't lump me in that group. I have been very skeptical about Eason from the start. All I've said is I think he'll be a big improvement over Browning. Which I feel the same about Herbert.

I said I think Herbert has a higher altitude than Locker. He's clearly better. But there are plenty of similarities.

dnc

Meaning Herbert > Browning not Eason > Herbert.

dtd

dnc said:

dtd said:

dnc said:

dtd said:

Pitchfork51 said:

Honestly bias aside is he actually that good?

Everyone talks about how good he is but I don't remember him much from our game. Wasn't he injured most of the year?

Has he ever actually done anything?

tldr: prolly, no, no.

He was bad against ASU last year, missed a number of big throws.

He throws a great deep ball, is generally very accurate on high difficulty throws, but struggles at reads and touch on the shorter routes. He was hurt his senior? year in HS, didn't win the starting job until week 5? his freshman year at Oregon, broke his collarbone and missed 5 games his sophomore season, and last year had the worst receiving corps at Oregon since the '80s. One of those twatter analysts counted 52 drops last year. Probably the biggest issue with him, other than the drops, is timing, and perhaps that's related to experience. I dunno.

Go through these throws and tell me he doesn't have elite physical talent. It's a between the ears issue, maybe it's due to missing his senior year in HS and 25% of the games at Oregon. Also, look at the windows he's throwing into. There's hardly any separation at all. Gone are the days where Darron Thomas could throw to a dude without a defender within 10 yards and people would say "yeah but only cuz he was wide open", but now Herbert gets shit on because dudes can't get open? Okay. As a sophomore he was at 67% completion at over 9ypa. Go back through the stats and look at the P5 guys who do that each year. Lotta Heisman winners(not suggesting he will even be in the conversation).

https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/status/1038093448157569024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1038093448157569024&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fscoopduck.com%2Fforums%2F2%2Ftopics%2F20708%2F2

That's not a great throw. Catchable, but not great.

Obviously better than Browning.

We heard the "butt the drops" excuses with Lockner for years (and he was Kearse'd with Jermaine, after all) but his projected increase in completion percentage once he got to the pros never materialized. He was just as inconsistent. My guess is Herbert's career arc is slightly higher altitude but ultimately the same trajectory. We'll see. He's definitely got plenty of arm talent.

Which throw? There are tons of them in that thread, most of which doogs are already shitting themselves over when Eason makes one. Also, Lockner? Come the fuck on, they're nothing alike. Jack was an all pro jumbo WR playing QB. 54% career completion? Lazy as fuck comp.

The one in the tweet you posted. I didn't see any thread.

I'm not shitting myself over anything Eason has done so don't lump me in that group. I have been very skeptical about Eason from the start. All I've said is I think he'll be a big improvement over Browning. Which I feel the same about Herbert.

I said I think Herbert has a higher altitude than Locker. He's clearly better. But there are plenty of similarities.

Get off your fucking flip phone and scroll or swipe or whatever man, come on. You're not @RaceBannon

Also, you know who Herbert is similar to? Fucking Jacob Eason. Get the fuck out of here with that Lockner nonsense. And pull your fucking head out, that ball is pushing 65 yards in the air like it's nothing and was spot on. Eason pumps a 25 yard seam route once in PRACTICE like Herbert does a dozen times in that thread and half the halfbrains keyboards are too sticky to work. Trrrriggered.