Let's talk Yang

UWhuskytskeet

WilburHooksHands said:

UWhuskytskeet said:

WilburHooksHands said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

Old school UBI'ists view UBI as a moar better replacement for all of our bureaucratic welfare programs.

Yang does not view it as a "replacement" so it will never happen. Then again, it will never happen as a replacement either. Too many entrenched interests.

Yang does view it as a replacement for everything but SS and Vets benefits, not sure where youre seeing that.

It says he leaving those recipients with the choice of taking welfare or UBI. Even though most would take UBI, you'd still be leaving the layer of bureaucracy for the retards that stick with welfare.

The means to pay for the Freedom Dividend will come from 4 sources:

1. Current spending. We currently spend between $500 and $600 billion a year on welfare programs, food stamps, disability and the like. This reduces the cost of the Freedom Dividend because people already receiving benefits would have a choice but would be ineligible to receive the full $1,000 in addition to current benefits.

Would be much cheaper to just remove that option.

Its a step in that direction and could ultimately lead to that policy. He’s trying to propose something that is a step in the right direction short term and hopefully ideal longterm. Yang has openly talked about his dislike of government bureaucracy.

I've liked him for a while so I hope he continues to move that direction. Would be hard to get it to check out without doing that.

RaceBannon

Good stuff. I agree it separates him from the crowd which is smart

When I needed a hand out errrrrrr hand up i would have loved a grand a month and being able to skip the incredible bullshit required to get a couple hundred bucks of food stamps

There has to be a better way to deliver aid. This at least gets the discussion going


How fast would the establishment chew him up and spit him out? Fast I assume

BearsWiin

My two concerns with UBI are that it may have the unintended consequences of raising inflation and depressing wages

SFGbob

BearsWiin said:

My two concerns with UBI are that it may have the unintended consequences of raising inflation and depressing wages

What if the money you were getting was coming from your wife? Still concerned?

UW_Doog_Bot

BearsWiin said:

My two concerns with UBI are that it may have the unintended consequences of raising inflation and depressing wages

I mean, do you care about how current welfare systems do that?

BearsWiin

UW_Doog_Bot said:

BearsWiin said:

My two concerns with UBI are that it may have the unintended consequences of raising inflation and depressing wages

I mean, do you care about how current welfare systems do that?

Define current welfare systems, then I can ansewer you're querey

WestlinnDuck

The problem with UBI is that it will/would never be replacement for other welfare programs and combined with both the Chamber of Commerce and the leftards love of open borders you can imagine the attraction for an illegal family of 6 to get to the US for $72k a year plus free medical. Giving a meth head or heroin addict $1,000 is just stoking an out of control fire with gasoline and expecting a good result. Hell, if we let employees hire full time employees then at $10 an hour working 4 40 hour weeks a month gets you $1,600. And yet we hear that we need more illegals because $10 an hour jobs aren’t being filled. It shouldn’t be acceptable that able bodied US residents can collect a ton of money for Section 8 housing, Medicaid, free education, food stamps and obamaphones with no work requirements. Then toss in the massive fraud associated with the federal earned income tax credit.

WilburHooksHands

WestlinnDuck said:

The problem with UBI is that it will/would never be replacement for other welfare programs and combined with both the Chamber of Commerce and the leftards love of open borders you can imagine the attraction for an illegal family of 6 to get to the US for $72k a year plus free medical. Giving a meth head or heroin addict $1,000 is just stoking an out of control fire with gasoline and expecting a good result. Hell, if we let employees hire full time employees then at $10 an hour working 4 40 hour weeks a month gets you $1,600. And yet we hear that we need more illegals because $10 an hour jobs aren’t being filled. It shouldn’t be acceptable that able bodied US residents can collect a ton of money for Section 8 housing, Medicaid, free education, food stamps and obamaphones with no work requirements. Then toss in the massive fraud associated with the federal earned income tax credit.

PurpleThrobber

BearsWiin said:

My two concerns with UBI are that it may have the unintended consequences of raising inflation and depressing wages

The Throbber is already depressed about half the time.

Porn helps.

PurpleThrobber

WestlinnDuck said:

The problem with UBI is that it will/would never be replacement for other welfare programs and combined with both the Chamber of Commerce and the leftards love of open borders you can imagine the attraction for an illegal family of 6 to get to the US for $72k a year plus free medical. Giving a meth head or heroin addict $1,000 is just stoking an out of control fire with gasoline and expecting a good result. Hell, if we let employees hire full time employees then at $10 an hour working 4 40 hour weeks a month gets you $1,600. And yet we hear that we need more illegals because $10 an hour jobs aren’t being filled. It shouldn’t be acceptable that able bodied US residents can collect a ton of money for Section 8 housing, Medicaid, free education, food stamps and obamaphones with no work requirements. Then toss in the massive fraud associated with the federal earned income tax credit.

See my rant about tying to performance.

Pee in a bottle - $1500.

Don't pee in a bottle - $250.

#racistimsure