I sent my kids to private school and it was expensive. Yet the amount of money spent per classroom was a many times less than the public schools which at that time was 280K per class. Private had much better educational outcomes.
I am speaking out of my ass here...much like hondo... IMHO private schools are generally better because of a smaller class size... I live in small town...but the class sizes in middle school/jr high are 25-35 per teacher in public and about half that in the local biblethumping/recruiting school...
I sent my kids to private school and it was expensive. Yet the amount of money spent per classroom was a many times less than the public schools which at that time was 280K per class. Private had much better educational outcomes.
I am speaking out of my ass here...much like hondo... IMHO private schools are generally better because of a smaller class size... I live in small town...but the class sizes in middle school/jr high are 25-35 per teacher in public and about half that in the local biblethumping/recruiting school...
Class sizes about equal. Money spent was way less per class. 130K vs 280K.
What's Most Important? By Walter E.Williams July 23, 2019
Think about priorities. Say that you live in one of the dangerous high crime and poor schooling neighborhoods of cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit or St. Louis. Which is most important to you: doing something about public safety and raising the quality of education or, as most black politicians do, focusing energies upon President Donald Trump and who among the 20 presidential contenders will lead the Democratic Party? The average American has no inkling about the horrible conditions in which many blacks live. Moreover, they wouldn't begin to tolerate living under those conditions themselves.
In Chicago, one person is shot every four hours and murdered every 18 hours. Similar crime statistics can be found in many predominantly black neighborhoods in Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis and many other large cities. It's not just an issue of public safety, for high crime has other devastating consequences.
Crime lowers the value of property. We can see some of this when housing prices skyrocket in formerly high crime areas when large numbers of middle- and upper-income people purchase formerly run-down properties and fix them up. This is called gentrification — wealthier, predominantly white, people move in to renovate and restore slum housing in inner cities, causing higher rental prices and forcing low-income residents out. Also, as a result of gentrification, crime falls and neighborhood amenities increase.
The high crime rates in many black neighborhoods have the full effect of outlawing economic growth and opportunities. Here's a tiny example of the impact of crime on businesses. In low crime communities, supermarket managers may leave plants, fertilizer and other home and garden items outdoors, unattended and often overnight. If one even finds a supermarket in a high crime neighborhood, then that store must hire guards, and the manager cannot place items outside unguarded or near exits. They cannot use all the space that they lease, and hence they are less profitable. Who bears the ultimate cost of crime? If you said black people, you're right. Black people must bear the expense to go to suburban shopping malls if they are to avoid the higher prices charged by mom and pop shops.
In low crime neighborhoods, FedEx, UPS and other delivery companies routinely leave packages that contain valuable merchandise on a doorstep if no one is at home. That saves the expense of redelivery and saves recipients the expense of having to go pick up the packages. In high crime neighborhoods, delivery companies leaving packages at the door and supermarkets leaving goods outside unattended would be equivalent to economic suicide.
Today's level of lawlessness and insecurity in many black communities is a relatively new phenomenon. In the 1950s, '40s, '30s and earlier times, people didn't bar their windows. Doors were often left unlocked. People didn't go to bed to the sounds of gunshots. And black people didn't experience anything like what's experienced in Chicago and other cities such as one person being shot every four hours and murdered every 18 hours. The uninformed blame today's chaos on discrimination and poverty. That doesn't even pass the smell test, unless one wants to argue that historically there was less racial discrimination and poverty than today.
Politicians who call for law and order are often viewed negatively, but poor people are more dependent on law and order than anyone else. In the face of high crime or social disorder, wealthier people can afford to purchase alarm systems, buy guard dogs, hire guards and, if things get completely out of hand, move to a gated community. These options are not available to poor people. The only protection poor people have is an orderly society.
Ultimately, the solution to high crime rests with black people. Given the current political environment, it doesn't benefit a black or white politician to take those steps necessary to crack down on lawlessness in black communities. That means black people must become intolerant of criminals making their lives living hell, even if it requires taking the law into their own hands.
Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University.
I can't say I disagree with anything he says, and law and order is a necessary prescription, but it still just focuses on the symptom of the problem. A lack of access to quality education, including pre-K, is and continues to be the biggest obstacle facing black communities and it's the one thing needed to break the cycle of crime and lack of opportunity. If you're not talking about the education disparity we have, you're not interested in solving the problem.
It’s not about the money that those schools districts are receiving. It’s the same throughout a school district for the most part. The difference is the environment. In the roughest areas, there is little parenting going on and half the kids don’t listen to their teachers and disrupt the whole learning process because they have no respect for anything. No amount of money solves that problem. Better parenting and more Principal Joes with Baseball bats is the answer.
What's Most Important? By Walter E.Williams July 23, 2019
Think about priorities. Say that you live in one of the dangerous high crime and poor schooling neighborhoods of cities like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit or St. Louis. Which is most important to you: doing something about public safety and raising the quality of education or, as most black politicians do, focusing energies upon President Donald Trump and who among the 20 presidential contenders will lead the Democratic Party? The average American has no inkling about the horrible conditions in which many blacks live. Moreover, they wouldn't begin to tolerate living under those conditions themselves.
In Chicago, one person is shot every four hours and murdered every 18 hours. Similar crime statistics can be found in many predominantly black neighborhoods in Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis and many other large cities. It's not just an issue of public safety, for high crime has other devastating consequences.
Crime lowers the value of property. We can see some of this when housing prices skyrocket in formerly high crime areas when large numbers of middle- and upper-income people purchase formerly run-down properties and fix them up. This is called gentrification — wealthier, predominantly white, people move in to renovate and restore slum housing in inner cities, causing higher rental prices and forcing low-income residents out. Also, as a result of gentrification, crime falls and neighborhood amenities increase.
The high crime rates in many black neighborhoods have the full effect of outlawing economic growth and opportunities. Here's a tiny example of the impact of crime on businesses. In low crime communities, supermarket managers may leave plants, fertilizer and other home and garden items outdoors, unattended and often overnight. If one even finds a supermarket in a high crime neighborhood, then that store must hire guards, and the manager cannot place items outside unguarded or near exits. They cannot use all the space that they lease, and hence they are less profitable. Who bears the ultimate cost of crime? If you said black people, you're right. Black people must bear the expense to go to suburban shopping malls if they are to avoid the higher prices charged by mom and pop shops.
In low crime neighborhoods, FedEx, UPS and other delivery companies routinely leave packages that contain valuable merchandise on a doorstep if no one is at home. That saves the expense of redelivery and saves recipients the expense of having to go pick up the packages. In high crime neighborhoods, delivery companies leaving packages at the door and supermarkets leaving goods outside unattended would be equivalent to economic suicide.
Today's level of lawlessness and insecurity in many black communities is a relatively new phenomenon. In the 1950s, '40s, '30s and earlier times, people didn't bar their windows. Doors were often left unlocked. People didn't go to bed to the sounds of gunshots. And black people didn't experience anything like what's experienced in Chicago and other cities such as one person being shot every four hours and murdered every 18 hours. The uninformed blame today's chaos on discrimination and poverty. That doesn't even pass the smell test, unless one wants to argue that historically there was less racial discrimination and poverty than today.
Politicians who call for law and order are often viewed negatively, but poor people are more dependent on law and order than anyone else. In the face of high crime or social disorder, wealthier people can afford to purchase alarm systems, buy guard dogs, hire guards and, if things get completely out of hand, move to a gated community. These options are not available to poor people. The only protection poor people have is an orderly society.
Ultimately, the solution to high crime rests with black people. Given the current political environment, it doesn't benefit a black or white politician to take those steps necessary to crack down on lawlessness in black communities. That means black people must become intolerant of criminals making their lives living hell, even if it requires taking the law into their own hands.
Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University.
I can't say I disagree with anything he says, and law and order is a necessary prescription, but it still just focuses on the symptom of the problem. A lack of access to quality education, including pre-K, is and continues to be the biggest obstacle facing black communities and it's the one thing needed to break the cycle of crime and lack of opportunity. If you're not talking about the education disparity we have, you're not interested in solving the problem.
It’s not about the money that those schools districts are receiving. It’s the same throughout a school district for the most part. The difference is the environment. In the roughest areas, there is little parenting going on and half the kids don’t listen to their teachers and disrupt the whole learning process because they have no respect for anything. No amount of money solves that problem. Better parenting and more Principal Joes with Baseball bats is the answer.
I'm sure those little darlings who were tossing water on the police officers are very respectful of their teachers.
Rainier Beach High and South Shore Middle school were remodeled when our kids went there. I realize that was awhile ago but not that long
The biggest problem was white teachers with low expectations. And bored kids
Beach is getting another remodel, very soon. Last time they got rid of the shop classes and tried to make a Garfield Mini music & theater program that failed miserably. At one point Beach almost closed when enrollment was <400 students. They kept it and Cleveland open because SPD feared gang clashes and a spike in fights and violence if they merged the two schools. Nothing like letting the gang tails wag the dog.
Since 2009, both RB and Cleveland have bounced back quite a bit. Finishing the light rail that tore up the neighborhood definitely helped RB, along with new housing in the area. Both those schools, along with most in the district, have 5% to 7% of the students who DNGAF about school or education in general. They don't even try and couldn't give two shits about history or biology. I'd call them fast strategy. And they test like runny green shit on standardized tests, which pulls the rest of their demo way, way down.
The biggest waste of money in school districts are the program directors, the diversity police, who literally do nothing, and most of the incompetent administrators in the Central Office. They could cut that staff by 50% and nobody would notice a difference in the schools, except a lot more dollars would reach the classroom.
That's where all the money gets burned, GRG. It ain't about levy equalization.
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1. CHINA – 48.8 PER CLASS
2. SINGAPORE – 35.5 PER CLASS
3. JAPAN – 32.5 PER CLASS
4. UNITED STATES – 26.7 PER CLASS
$USD very strong right now.
There's 4,200 per class in Venezuela.
Since 2009, both RB and Cleveland have bounced back quite a bit. Finishing the light rail that tore up the neighborhood definitely helped RB, along with new housing in the area. Both those schools, along with most in the district, have 5% to 7% of the students who DNGAF about school or education in general. They don't even try and couldn't give two shits about history or biology. I'd call them fast strategy. And they test like runny green shit on standardized tests, which pulls the rest of their demo way, way down.
The biggest waste of money in school districts are the program directors, the diversity police, who literally do nothing, and most of the incompetent administrators in the Central Office. They could cut that staff by 50% and nobody would notice a difference in the schools, except a lot more dollars would reach the classroom.
That's where all the money gets burned, GRG. It ain't about levy equalization.