True?

Gwad

SFGbob

Why do you want the government to take care of you?

Gwad

Didn't the organizing principle of government or bureaucracies arise from the desire to live more comfortably, as opposed to living as a hunter gatherer?

CirrhosisDawg

SFGbob said:

Why do you want the government to take care of you?

Are you already standing in line at hospital ER for tonight’s doctor visit?

SFGbob

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

Why do you want the government to take care of you?

Are you already standing in line at hospital ER for tonight’s doctor visit?

Are you still lying and claiming illegals don't use the ERs?

Sledog

The government is a dangerous monster the less power it has the better.

But morons keeps surviving childhood due to medical advances.

CirrhosisDawg

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

Why do you want the government to take care of you?

Are you already standing in line at hospital ER for tonight’s doctor visit?

Are you still lying and claiming illegals don't use the ERs?

I hope they do. In massive numbers. Especially in contra costa county.

SFGbob

Gwad said:

Didn't the organizing principle of government or bureaucracies arise from the desire to live more comfortably, as opposed to living as a hunter gatherer?

We formed a government in order to take care of the things individuals can't provide for themselves. National defense, courts, not provide healthcare and retirement funds. They had health care and people retired when the Constitution was written. If the Founders really believed that was the proper role of government they would have said so in the Constitution.

SFGbob

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

Why do you want the government to take care of you?

Are you already standing in line at hospital ER for tonight’s doctor visit?

Are you still lying and claiming illegals don't use the ERs?

I hope they do. In massive numbers. Especially in contra costa county.

So you're no longer lying and claiming they don't. Progress.

CirrhosisDawg

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

Why do you want the government to take care of you?

Are you already standing in line at hospital ER for tonight’s doctor visit?

Are you still lying and claiming illegals don't use the ERs?

I hope they do. In massive numbers. Especially in contra costa county.

So you're no longer lying and claiming they don't. Progress.

Whatever you say GayBob.

Gwad

SFGbob said:

Gwad said:

Didn't the organizing principle of government or bureaucracies arise from the desire to live more comfortably, as opposed to living as a hunter gatherer?

We formed a government in order to take care of the things individuals can't provide for themselves. National defense, courts, not provide healthcare and retirement funds. They had health care and people retired when the Constitution was written. If the Founders really believed that was the proper role of government they would have said so in the Constitution.

Disagree.

DJDuck

Gwad said:

Didn't the organizing principle of government or bureaucracies arise from the desire to live more comfortably, as opposed to living as a hunter gatherer?

No

WestlinnDuck

So why did we form a US with limited powers. If Cali wants a carbon tax, good for them.

DJDuck

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it

Sledog

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

Why do you want the government to take care of you?

Are you already standing in line at hospital ER for tonight’s doctor visit?

Are you still lying and claiming illegals don't use the ERs?

I hope they do. In massive numbers. Especially in contra costa county.

Oops!

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/07/10/will-adding-undocumented-adults-to-medi-cal-hurt-an-already-overburdened-system/?fbclid=IwAR2KntAZ86t1PFd9kaywsCK5E2vCOe5NyIIOo55txIFFHIviDuuHDKFsb9c

CirrhosisDawg

Sledog said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

Why do you want the government to take care of you?

Are you already standing in line at hospital ER for tonight’s doctor visit?

Are you still lying and claiming illegals don't use the ERs?

I hope they do. In massive numbers. Especially in contra costa county.

Oops!

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/07/10/will-adding-undocumented-adults-to-medi-cal-hurt-an-already-overburdened-system/?fbclid=IwAR2KntAZ86t1PFd9kaywsCK5E2vCOe5NyIIOo55txIFFHIviDuuHDKFsb9c

You’re not retarded like everyone says, are you bobsled? You’re “special.”

GreenRiverGatorz

SFGbob said:

Gwad said:

Didn't the organizing principle of government or bureaucracies arise from the desire to live more comfortably, as opposed to living as a hunter gatherer?

We formed a government in order to take care of the things individuals can't provide for themselves. National defense, courts, not provide healthcare and retirement funds. They had health care and people retired when the Constitution was written. If the Founders really believed that was the proper role of government they would have said so in the Constitution.

Retirement is a relatively new concept that did not exist in the 1700s outside of a select few. That's not to say that SS is solving all our woes, but to pretend that Americans retired comfortably before the advent of SS is just patently false.

As for healthcare, it's become pretty clear that the free market is unable to provide sufficient care to a large segment of the population, be it due to poverty or preexisting conditions. If you're okay with that then go make that argument, but I think most people recognize that the government must play some role to correct the deficiencies of the market.

RaceBannon

Seems like the GOP is all in on most government programs so that meme appears to be full of shit

Democrat socialists want socialism. Why are you lying about it @Gwad ?

SFGbob

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

Why do you want the government to take care of you?

Are you already standing in line at hospital ER for tonight’s doctor visit?

Are you still lying and claiming illegals don't use the ERs?

I hope they do. In massive numbers. Especially in contra costa county.

So you're no longer lying and claiming they don't. Progress.

Whatever you say GayBob.

Brutal rebuttal El Monte.

SFGbob

Gwad said:

SFGbob said:

Gwad said:

Didn't the organizing principle of government or bureaucracies arise from the desire to live more comfortably, as opposed to living as a hunter gatherer?

We formed a government in order to take care of the things individuals can't provide for themselves. National defense, courts, not provide healthcare and retirement funds. They had health care and people retired when the Constitution was written. If the Founders really believed that was the proper role of government they would have said so in the Constitution.

Disagree.

The soreness of your snatch is duly noted.

SFGbob

GreenRiverGatorz said:

SFGbob said:

Gwad said:

Didn't the organizing principle of government or bureaucracies arise from the desire to live more comfortably, as opposed to living as a hunter gatherer?

We formed a government in order to take care of the things individuals can't provide for themselves. National defense, courts, not provide healthcare and retirement funds. They had health care and people retired when the Constitution was written. If the Founders really believed that was the proper role of government they would have said so in the Constitution.

Retirement is a relatively new concept that did not exist in the 1700s outside of a select few. That's not to say that SS is solving all our woes, but to pretend that Americans retired comfortably before the advent of SS is just patently false.

As for healthcare, it's become pretty clear that the free market is unable to provide sufficient care to a large segment of the population, be it due to poverty or preexisting conditions. If you're okay with that then go make that argument, but I think most people recognize that the government must play some role to correct the deficiencies of the market.

Can we please lay off the strawman's asswhole for just one day? I never claimed that people retired comfortably back in the 1700s. But people did get old, they did get sick and they did die. The very same certainties of life that exist today, existed back then and the Founders didn't believe that the Federal government had any role in ameliorating those certainties.

Our current healthcare system is about as far as you can get from a free market so it's not really fair to say it isn't able to provide sufficient care to a large segment of the population.