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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    edited July 2019
    This is meh, but I'm with @dnc if he is our third TE out of three, and the middle one is Rodgers (or some other epic talent that pops up out of nowhere), then cool. If this is the end, welp, um, shit. I love me some Redman!
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,168

    chuck said:

    tvoie said:

    For anyone who knows anything, is West good?

    I know:

    A. He was notin their first tier of offers, so hes probably not, or to date has not been, as good as some of the misses.

    B. UW doesn't offer shitty players as a rule. Hes either a giu who will break out as a senior, or he already has some qualities that UWs very good evaluators like. Maybe hes an athletic blocking specialist who can snag a big play when nobody's looking like Jacob Kizer.
    This.

    He earned his offer right after the camp where he likely impressed the coaches.

    It was also around when Yurosek committed to Stanford and Taylor likely told the coaches they were out of the running.

    He isn’t as good as those two but he probably showed something in camp that isn’t in his tape to date.

    Likely a case of abundance.
    Michael Neal was offered right after the coaches saw him at a camp too.
    And Isaiah Gilchrist exists, so Lake must be a bum coach too. I have no idea what point you're trying to prove, that no position coach will ever hit on 100% of his recruits? Congrats on the thesis, Ballz.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    DawgFader said:

    I'll wait until I see his Senior film before making a definitive judgement on this pickup. But right now, it's not looking good.

    I guessing this won’t age well, if he ever gets on the field. The TE group shows out.

    Yeah, Michael Neal and Jacob Kizer have really shown out. I still remember Paopao telling the media Neal needed to be more physical to get on the field while I'm watching that and thinking "You recruited him you dumbass! You should have known he was soft before!". Kizer is such a slow plodder. He'll never be much of a threat as a pass catcher. Stop acting like a stupid doog like Paopao can just take 3-star guys nobody else wanted and they'll automatically turn into NFL draft picks while they're here. That's not always the case. We've also heard Devin Culp can't block worth shit.
    Kizer is a better athlete than player at this point. He has a 38.5” vertical. I doubt he’s slow for being 265. I remember Petersen saying something about Kizer needing to learn how to block. Otton isn’t Will Dissly, but he’s a good blocker.

    I think Kizer will be a solid player for us and it’s more of a matter of him playing behind NFL TE’s than him sucking.
    Agree, unlike what Ballz thinks Kizer will get drafted in 2 years.
    I seriously doubt that. Maybe he could sneak in the 7th round if he makes a big leap as a receiver. Nothing from Spring ball says he has. He caught two passes last season as a Sophomore.
    Dude college football is going pass happy not many TE are blocking. So scouts see our TE and see that translating well into NFL. U r full of shit if you thought sample would be drafted in the second round. I thought dissly’ tape was better. Dude caught only 25 passes and still got taken in the 2nd round.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,795 Founders Club

    tvoie said:

    For anyone who knows anything, is West good?

    He's of the James Sample/Jacob Kiser level. Super boring commit but will probably work really hard and outplay his recruiting profile
    Uh James Sample was 4-star Army all American who got drafted.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,795 Founders Club
    edited July 2019
    TE falls under the category of rare human position. There aren't that many great ones out there. Not in the NFL and especially not in college.

    Out of Bryant, Otton, Kizer, Culp, and Redman at least 4 will be drafted.

    Our guys are the most complete TE unit out there, if anything we underutilize them which hopefully was more Browning's fault than by design.

    I'm not freaking out about this one.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,584
    Doogles said:

    tvoie said:

    For anyone who knows anything, is West good?

    He's of the James Sample/Jacob Kiser level. Super boring commit but will probably work really hard and outplay his recruiting profile
    Uh James Sample was 4-star Army all American who got drafted.
    Yeah I meant Drew Sample. Read my follow up