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  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    DawgFader said:

    You see that little wigwam badge. Pretty clear and easy to follow my money, you not so much. This is an early offer, not sure what your talking shit for.
    This isn't an early offer. This is a plan B offer and it's a big drop off from our plan A guys.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    dnc said:

    He's our fifth TE offer and it was made in June right after the camp. This isn't some last minute desperation offer. They obviously like him and they just saw him up close. We offered Patterson on December 1st last year.

    This isn't that.
    Patterson is better than him. We should have taken Patterson if this is his replacement.
  • PenacePenace Member Posts: 494
    Fuck man that's disappointing
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735

    dude STFU

    I have 100% more faith in Paopao giving us great TEs than I have in Petersen/Hamdan putting a decent scheme out there
    How is that even at all relevant to recruiting? It's not.
  • KrunkJuiceKrunkJuice Member Posts: 2,068

    Kizer is a better athlete than player at this point. He has a 38.5” vertical. I doubt he’s slow for being 265. I remember Petersen saying something about Kizer needing to learn how to block. Otton isn’t Will Dissly, but he’s a good blocker.

    I think Kizer will be a solid player for us and it’s more of a matter of him playing behind NFL TE’s than him sucking.
    Agree, unlike what Ballz thinks Kizer will get drafted in 2 years.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    Kizer is a better athlete than player. He has a 38.5” vertical. I remember Petersen saying something about Kizer needing to learn how to block. Otton isn’t Will Dissly, but he’s a good blocker.

    I think Kizer will be a solid player for us and it’s more of a matter of him playing behind NFL TE’s than him sucking.
    He sucks because he's slow and he's never going to be fast because he doesn't have the genetic talent to be fast. You guys think it's okay to just have JAG TE's in there who can only block and it's not. When you play with two TE's on the field you are taking a receiver off the field to do so. That means both TE's need to be talented enough to be legit threats as receivers or else you are weakening your own passing game by playing two TE sets. Kizer is not a good receiver and probably never will be.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited July 2019

    Agree, unlike what Ballz thinks Kizer will get drafted in 2 years.
    I seriously doubt that. Maybe he could sneak in the 7th round if he makes a big leap as a receiver. Nothing from Spring ball says he has. He caught two passes last season as a Sophomore.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,704 Founders Club
    edited July 2019
    This is meh, but I'm with @dnc if he is our third TE out of three, and the middle one is Rodgers (or some other epic talent that pops up out of nowhere), then cool. If this is the end, welp, um, shit. I love me some Redman!
  • GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Michael Neal was offered right after the coaches saw him at a camp too.
    And Isaiah Gilchrist exists, so Lake must be a bum coach too. I have no idea what point you're trying to prove, that no position coach will ever hit on 100% of his recruits? Congrats on the thesis, Ballz.
  • FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    I seriously doubt that. Maybe he could sneak in the 7th round if he makes a big leap as a receiver. Nothing from Spring ball says he has. He caught two passes last season as a Sophomore.
    Dude college football is going pass happy not many TE are blocking. So scouts see our TE and see that translating well into NFL. U r full of shit if you thought sample would be drafted in the second round. I thought dissly’ tape was better. Dude caught only 25 passes and still got taken in the 2nd round.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,692 Founders Club

    He's of the James Sample/Jacob Kiser level. Super boring commit but will probably work really hard and outplay his recruiting profile
    Uh James Sample was 4-star Army all American who got drafted.
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,692 Founders Club
    edited July 2019
    TE falls under the category of rare human position. There aren't that many great ones out there. Not in the NFL and especially not in college.

    Out of Bryant, Otton, Kizer, Culp, and Redman at least 4 will be drafted.

    Our guys are the most complete TE unit out there, if anything we underutilize them which hopefully was more Browning's fault than by design.

    I'm not freaking out about this one.
  • bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,438
    Doogles said:

    Uh James Sample was 4-star Army all American who got drafted.
    Yeah I meant Drew Sample. Read my follow up
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