OFFICIAL DNC DEBATE GAME THREAD
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Don't agree she's dumb, but you're right to say substance doesn't matter. Hillary was terrible at running for office and Daddy is President.PurpleThrobber said:
Dumb as a rock but knows how to play to her public appeal.allpurpleallgold said:
I would argue her being a moderate is one of the reasons why she unlikable and untrustworthy.Swaye said:
I'm not sure Hillary is the hill to die on with moderate Dems my friend. I do agree that "some" moderate Dems have struggled, but I think Hillary lost because she is a horrible unlikeable person, not because she was a moderate. Her numbers on trust and likeability were horribly bad. Historically horribly bad.allpurpleallgold said:
This is laughably ignorant. Moderate democrats had been getting slaughtered since 2008. They luckboxed their way into a Obama, the rare politician that could inspire the base while governing from the center, and they still couldn’t win elections with him in the White House.PurpleThrobber said:
The Dems got hijacked by the 'progressives' the same way the GOP got hijacked by the Moral Majority evangelicals.Bendintheriver said:I watched the entire thing. There was not one positive message uttered on that stage last night. No pride in country, no love for their fellow Americans, not one uplifting thing anyone could ever hang their hat on.
Think about that. Not one person on that stage has any pride in our country at all and they want to be President. WTF is wrong with democrats?
Once they figure out the math that those leftist fucks will vote D regardless OR that the D's can pick up MORE moderate votes running centrist candidates, they'll be relevant again.
Right now they've got Vernon Adams running the numbers. This is bell curve stuff. Racing to the left hand extreme of the X-axis is horrid strategy.
We literally just settled this in 2016. Hillary Clinton is a moderate. She’s literally the moderate y’all keep swearing could beat Trump. She didn’t. Just like Biden won’t beat him. If only there were moderate democrats with tons of experience to run against Trump!
Trumo won because he’s not the moderate politician. Saying a moderate is how you beat that is fucking stupid.
I know you think the Dems need to veer FAR left, but they have that segment anyway. All the Dems need to do to win is recapture 20 percent of the white union vote they lost in the Midwest with Hillary because everyone hated her, she was uninspiring, nobody trusted her, AND she ignored the Midwest.
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True, but both got the GOP nomination by accommodating hard right wingers. Mitt was unrecognizable and rudderless. John threw a Hail Mary when he was in the fucking lead.allpurpleallgold said:
Also worth noting, Obama beat a moderate. Twice.RaceBannon said:Trump looks moderate now. He just ignored the alleged conservative never Trumpers and won anyway
And is now governing center right
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You should leave the brilliant political analysis to me. McCain 08 was no different than McCain 2000 who lost to an alleged conservative W. And alleged hard right wing Christian W beat Gore and Kerry.HHusky said:
True, but both got the GOP nomination by accommodating hard right wingers. Mitt was unrecognizable and rudderless. John threw a Hail Mary when he was in the fucking lead.allpurpleallgold said:
Also worth noting, Obama beat a moderate. Twice.RaceBannon said:Trump looks moderate now. He just ignored the alleged conservative never Trumpers and won anyway
And is now governing center right
It doesn't work to paint him as an extremist but they will anyway
The only difference in 08 is that all the alleged conservatives like yourself who claimed you would have voted for him in 2000 shit all over him in 2008 when you had a chance to vote for him
McCain was always desperate to be part of the elite and believed the bullshit and ran as who the fuck knows what. He barely ran at all -
McCain's biggest lead was after he selected Palin. Nice revisonist history O'Keefed. Tell us what position Mitt took that accommodated the "hard right wingers" O'Keefed?HHusky said:
True, but both got the GOP nomination by accommodating hard right wingers. Mitt was unrecognizable and rudderless. John threw a Hail Mary when he was in the fucking lead.allpurpleallgold said:
Also worth noting, Obama beat a moderate. Twice.RaceBannon said:Trump looks moderate now. He just ignored the alleged conservative never Trumpers and won anyway
And is now governing center right
It doesn't work to paint him as an extremist but they will anyway
Cue the Kunt act. -
The move that cost McCain the election.
https://www.usnews.com/news/campaign-2008/articles/2008/09/24/mccain-suspends-campaign-shocks-republicans -
At least Sarah Palin wasn't a racist like the VP H voted for under Obama
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Biden is their guy. Everyone else is just there to collect a participation ribbon. Same as last time.
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I think there is some panic about Biden.PurpleJ said:Biden is their guy. Everyone else is just there to collect a participation ribbon. Same as last time.
He's tried before and never got close. There's a reason -
See?RaceBannon said:
I think there is some panic about Hillary.PurpleJ said:Biden is their guy. Everyone else is just there to collect a participation ribbon. Same as last time.
He's tried before and never got close. There's a reason
