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RaceBannon
RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
That's an impressive campaign kick off by Trump

Enthusiasm was the key in 16. You can pretend Biden has the Democrats fired up and be disappointed again

If this were a Democrat tonight the entire MSM would be doing a full Hannity and actually have a reason too

Somehow you have to translate the passion for the crazy kids to an adult over 35 who can actually take office

That was Bernie but the DNC doesn't want him

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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    To what are you referring
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club

    To what are you referring

    Exactly
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    BearsWiin said:

    To what are you referring

    Olds tend to ramble. It's best to just let them, they'll go to bed soon
    Good advice fren
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    That's an impressive campaign kick off by Trump

    Enthusiasm was the key in 16. You can pretend Biden has the Democrats fired up and be disappointed again

    If this were a Democrat tonight the entire MSM would be doing a full Hannity and actually have a reason too

    Somehow you have to translate the passion for the crazy kids to an adult over 35 who can actually take office

    That was Bernie but the DNC doesn't want him

    Do you think if Bernie had won the nomination in ‘16 he would have beaten Trump?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    This is 2020

    No it’s not. Do you think Bernie would have won the general in ‘16 if he had won the nomination?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    I don't care

    He was robbed by a corrupt DNC

    And you don't care

    Win at all costs for a loser like Hillary
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    I don't care

    He was robbed by a corrupt DNC

    And you don't care

    Win at all costs for a loser like Hillary

    Bro. It was her turn. The only person robbed was hill
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club

    I don't care

    He was robbed by a corrupt DNC

    And you don't care

    Win at all costs for a loser like Hillary

    Bro. It was her turn. The only person robbed was hill
    The glass ceiling is real
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    edited June 2019

    I don't care

    He was robbed by a corrupt DNC

    And you don't care

    Win at all costs for a loser like Hillary

    Based on your comment that he was a more exciting candidate for the base and thus better for the general then Hillary, it’s easy to surmise you think he would have won since Hillary lost by about 80k votes in 3 states. I find it an interesting take although I disagree with it. Seems like you’d rather not have the convo though so c’est la vie. Obviously no wrong answer just thought it was an interesting take.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    I don't care

    He was robbed by a corrupt DNC

    And you don't care

    Win at all costs for a loser like Hillary

    Based on your comment that he was a more exciting candidate for the base and thus better for the general then Hillary, it’s easy to surmise you think he would have won since Hillary lost by about 80k votes in 3 states. I find it an interesting take although I disagree with it. Seems like you’d rather not have the convo though so c’est la vie. Obviously no wrong answer just thought it was an interesting take.
    I said he has the youth more excited this time and Biden dampened it all down

    Hillary lost. Biden will lose.

    It's the 2020 campaign. Get over your loss in 16 and try to keep up
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    GDS said:

    I don't care

    He was robbed by a corrupt DNC

    And you don't care

    Win at all costs for a loser like Hillary

    Based on your comment that he was a more exciting candidate for the base and thus better for the general then Hillary, it’s easy to surmise you think he would have won since Hillary lost by about 80k votes in 3 states. I find it an interesting take although I disagree with it. Seems like you’d rather not have the convo though so c’est la vie. Obviously no wrong answer just thought it was an interesting take.
    I said he has the youth more excited this time and Biden dampened it all down

    Hillary lost. Biden will lose.

    It's the 2020 campaign. Get over your loss in 16 and try to keep up
    You referenced enthusiasm in ‘16 and said Bernie WAS that candidate.

    Again - thought you were making an interesting take. Clearly you weren’t. Have a good night.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    Its called an analogy

    JFC these people are stupid
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    Somehow you have to translate the passion for the crazy kids to an adult over 35 who can actually take office

    That was Bernie but the DNC doesn't want him


    Nothing to do with 16

    We're on to 2020

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    GDS said:

    That's an impressive campaign kick off by Trump

    Enthusiasm was the key in 16. You can pretend Biden has the Democrats fired up and be disappointed again

    If this were a Democrat tonight the entire MSM would be doing a full Hannity and actually have a reason too

    Somehow you have to translate the passion for the crazy kids to an adult over 35 who can actually take office

    That was Bernie but the DNC doesn't want him

    Do you think if Bernie had won the nomination in ‘16 he would have beaten Trump?
    Sadly, yes. Entirely possible. Bernie spoke to the forgotten % of the Dem base: labor. Of course, he would have taxed them into oblivion, but he wasn't spending his time on gender-neutral bathrooms like Hillary was.

    I am convinced more today than in 2016 that she lost the election because of that single lapse in judgment on the campaign trail. She forgot who she works for.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    That's an impressive campaign kick off by Trump

    Enthusiasm was the key in 16. You can pretend Biden has the Democrats fired up and be disappointed again

    If this were a Democrat tonight the entire MSM would be doing a full Hannity and actually have a reason too

    Somehow you have to translate the passion for the crazy kids to an adult over 35 who can actually take office

    That was Bernie but the DNC doesn't want him

    Yes. They are failing again. The real issue is that the Democratic party doesn't know what it is anymore. The Republican party is also splintered with alt right and religious fanatics, but they pull together much better than the Democrats. The old Republican guard is good at ignoring the far right base w/o letting them known they're ignoring them. The Democrats lack that ability for some reason.
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    GDS said:

    That's an impressive campaign kick off by Trump

    Enthusiasm was the key in 16. You can pretend Biden has the Democrats fired up and be disappointed again

    If this were a Democrat tonight the entire MSM would be doing a full Hannity and actually have a reason too

    Somehow you have to translate the passion for the crazy kids to an adult over 35 who can actually take office

    That was Bernie but the DNC doesn't want him

    Do you think if Bernie had won the nomination in ‘16 he would have beaten Trump?
    Sadly, yes. Entirely possible. Bernie spoke to the forgotten % of the Dem base: labor. Of course, he would have taxed them into oblivion, but he wasn't spending his time on gender-neutral bathrooms like Hillary was.

    I am convinced more today than in 2016 that she lost the election because of that single lapse in judgment on the campaign trail. She forgot who she works for.
    I won't pretend to be in tuned with Bernie's 2016 platform, but where would he have increased taxes for working class whites? Honest question since my perception of him has always been that he proposes increased taxes almost entirely targeted towards the wealthy.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,462 Founders Club

    GDS said:

    That's an impressive campaign kick off by Trump

    Enthusiasm was the key in 16. You can pretend Biden has the Democrats fired up and be disappointed again

    If this were a Democrat tonight the entire MSM would be doing a full Hannity and actually have a reason too

    Somehow you have to translate the passion for the crazy kids to an adult over 35 who can actually take office

    That was Bernie but the DNC doesn't want him

    Do you think if Bernie had won the nomination in ‘16 he would have beaten Trump?
    Sadly, yes. Entirely possible. Bernie spoke to the forgotten % of the Dem base: labor. Of course, he would have taxed them into oblivion, but he wasn't spending his time on gender-neutral bathrooms like Hillary was.

    I am convinced more today than in 2016 that she lost the election because of that single lapse in judgment on the campaign trail. She forgot who she works for.
    No. No she didn't.

    The poor huddled masses saw right through her bullshit and elected Trump.

    How is the current DNC different than last time? They aren't.

    Save one lone exception they won't nominate.




    My prediction is more Russian collusion in 2020 from the tone-deaf DNC.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Trump is president, and now owns the border invasion. Not accomplishing anything in regard to immigration in his first two years when his party was in control of both Houses was incompetent. Continuing to NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT when he has the power to shut immigration down TODAY as president, is treason.

    Trump is quickly becoming America's Angela Merkel.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,570 Standard Supporter
    Look at Cali. The leftards that run that state claim to care about the little folk that they tax and regulate the sh*t out of. Price of gas and electricity are just the tip of the iceberg.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited June 2019
    One of the highest gas taxes and sales taxes in the country because they care so much about the little people.

  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165

    Trump is president, and now owns the border invasion. Not accomplishing anything in regard to immigration in his first two years when his party was in control of both Houses was incompetent. Continuing to NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT when he has the power to shut immigration down TODAY as president, is treason.

    Trump is quickly becoming America's Angela Merkel.

    Now this was a bold take I wasn't expecting from you. Kudos on the consistency though.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    pawz said:

    GDS said:

    That's an impressive campaign kick off by Trump

    Enthusiasm was the key in 16. You can pretend Biden has the Democrats fired up and be disappointed again

    If this were a Democrat tonight the entire MSM would be doing a full Hannity and actually have a reason too

    Somehow you have to translate the passion for the crazy kids to an adult over 35 who can actually take office

    That was Bernie but the DNC doesn't want him

    Do you think if Bernie had won the nomination in ‘16 he would have beaten Trump?
    Sadly, yes. Entirely possible. Bernie spoke to the forgotten % of the Dem base: labor. Of course, he would have taxed them into oblivion, but he wasn't spending his time on gender-neutral bathrooms like Hillary was.

    I am convinced more today than in 2016 that she lost the election because of that single lapse in judgment on the campaign trail. She forgot who she works for.
    No. No she didn't.

    The poor huddled masses saw right through her bullshit and elected Trump.

    How is the current DNC different than last time? They aren't.

    Save one lone exception they won't nominate.




    My prediction is more Russian collusion in 2020 from the tone-deaf DNC.

    Yes, she did. She forgot labor, and it cost her, because more people care about jobs and the economy than they do about fringe social issues. The Democratic party is as splintered as the Republican party. The only difference, as I said earlier, is that the Republicans deal with their internal splits better at election time. The Ds are a fucking shit show when the whistle blows.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    Immigration is a bigger concern than the climate. You can look it up

    That right there is enough

    And its always the economy.























    Stupid
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046

    GDS said:

    That's an impressive campaign kick off by Trump

    Enthusiasm was the key in 16. You can pretend Biden has the Democrats fired up and be disappointed again

    If this were a Democrat tonight the entire MSM would be doing a full Hannity and actually have a reason too

    Somehow you have to translate the passion for the crazy kids to an adult over 35 who can actually take office

    That was Bernie but the DNC doesn't want him

    Do you think if Bernie had won the nomination in ‘16 he would have beaten Trump?
    Sadly, yes. Entirely possible. Bernie spoke to the forgotten % of the Dem base: labor. Of course, he would have taxed them into oblivion, but he wasn't spending his time on gender-neutral bathrooms like Hillary was.

    I am convinced more today than in 2016 that she lost the election because of that single lapse in judgment on the campaign trail. She forgot who she works for.
    I won't pretend to be in tuned with Bernie's 2016 platform, but where would he have increased taxes for working class whites? Honest question since my perception of him has always been that he proposes increased taxes almost entirely targeted towards the wealthy.
    I don't have a scientific answer for you. It's a good question. In his rhetoric, sure he's going to have Bezos and Gates and hedge fund managers pay for everything. In reality, universal (quality) healthcare, free college, free this and free that require much more than what you'd get if you liquidated the assets of all of the very rich.

    Although, had he won, he would never have gotten 1/2 of that shit through Congress, so there's that.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    Health care will become the issue. Get out ahead of it now if you want to win.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,884 Founders Club
    dflea said:

    Health care will become the issue. Get out ahead of it now if you want to win.

    This is also true

    Got the dems the House back after the utter failure of the GOP to do the whole replace part of their promise

    So do impeachment instead
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    dflea said:

    Health care will become the issue. Get out ahead of it now if you want to win.

    What even is the GOP plan for healthcare? If they repeal Obamacare any further they know they're eating the loss. So now what?
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    Health care will become the issue. Get out ahead of it now if you want to win.

    What even is the GOP plan for healthcare? If they repeal Obamacare any further they know they're eating the loss. So now what?
    The GOP is vulnerable, but the DNC is retarded.

    Same as it ever was.