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  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,860
    Cooooohhennnnn


    Show us your tits! The rubber has met the road!
  • NEsnake12NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,792
    Situations like this are significantly more difficult to manage when the victim wants it kept private, which Strickland wanted, and you have to honor that to the best of your ability. The whole "we wish him luck..." bit was just a generic line to not raise any suspicion to a situation that you don't want to go public.

    Cohen's one mistake was definitely consulting with others (including Shick) about how to handle the hypothetical situation instead of assuming that the hypothetical could be real, and that it could've pertained to anyone in the AD. Misplaced trust for sure, but in the grand scheme of things she handled the situation pretty well. You have to give her a lot of credit for pushing the investigation forward when it might not have happened otherwise.

    The whole story is more of an indictment of the legal side of things... the UW AD should have full ability to privately disclose misconduct information when GCU was in the process of hiring Shick. Also a bad look for GCU as they evidently didn't directly ask UW if there were any issues with misconduct while Shick was here.
  • EwaDawgEwaDawg Member Posts: 4,149
    edited June 2019
    NEsnake12 said:

    Situations like this are significantly more difficult to manage when the victim wants it kept private, which Strickland wanted, and you have to honor that to the best of your ability. The whole "we wish him luck..." bit was just a generic line to not raise any suspicion to a situation that you don't want to go public.

    Cohen's one mistake was definitely consulting with others (including Shick) about how to handle the hypothetical situation instead of assuming that the hypothetical could be real, and that it could've pertained to anyone in the AD. Misplaced trust for sure, but in the grand scheme of things she handled the situation pretty well. You have to give her a lot of credit for pushing the investigation forward when it might not have happened otherwise.

    The whole story is more of an indictment of the legal side of things... the UW AD should have full ability to privately disclose misconduct information when GCU was in the process of hiring Shick. Also a bad look for GCU as they evidently didn't directly ask UW if there were any issues with misconduct while Shick was here.

    I am pretty sure almost every female (Including our ? AD), that is beyond a certain age, has experienced some level of the same type of thing. The only fault I find is that I can't fathom how she couldn't see this from the victim's perspective. At least to assume it may have happened until proving it didn't.

  • huskyhooliganhuskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,347 Swaye's Wigwam
    EwaDawg said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Situations like this are significantly more difficult to manage when the victim wants it kept private, which Strickland wanted, and you have to honor that to the best of your ability. The whole "we wish him luck..." bit was just a generic line to not raise any suspicion to a situation that you don't want to go public.

    Cohen's one mistake was definitely consulting with others (including Shick) about how to handle the hypothetical situation instead of assuming that the hypothetical could be real, and that it could've pertained to anyone in the AD. Misplaced trust for sure, but in the grand scheme of things she handled the situation pretty well. You have to give her a lot of credit for pushing the investigation forward when it might not have happened otherwise.

    The whole story is more of an indictment of the legal side of things... the UW AD should have full ability to privately disclose misconduct information when GCU was in the process of hiring Shick. Also a bad look for GCU as they evidently didn't directly ask UW if there were any issues with misconduct while Shick was here.

    I am pretty sure almost every female (Including our ? AD), that is beyond a certain age, has experienced some level of the same type of thing. The only fault I find is that I can't fathom how she couldn't see this from the victim's perspective. At least to assume it may have happened until proving it didn't.

    But that's what the article points out, that she did pursue it, investigated, and found Shick to be at fault. You have to investigate. Biggest mistake was not firing him immediately. Jen continued to seek assistance for Strickland after she had left campus, continued to contact Strickland with the offer for care. As an organization of course you get things in writing. As noted this isn't an easy situation at all, and had Strickland sought to press charges, I think the AD would have supported Strickland in that pursuit.

    It's safe to say that this will happen again, and hopefully the AD puts in the appropriate measures to deal with it so there is no grey area.
  • NEsnake12NEsnake12 Member Posts: 3,792

    EwaDawg said:

    NEsnake12 said:

    Situations like this are significantly more difficult to manage when the victim wants it kept private, which Strickland wanted, and you have to honor that to the best of your ability. The whole "we wish him luck..." bit was just a generic line to not raise any suspicion to a situation that you don't want to go public.

    Cohen's one mistake was definitely consulting with others (including Shick) about how to handle the hypothetical situation instead of assuming that the hypothetical could be real, and that it could've pertained to anyone in the AD. Misplaced trust for sure, but in the grand scheme of things she handled the situation pretty well. You have to give her a lot of credit for pushing the investigation forward when it might not have happened otherwise.

    The whole story is more of an indictment of the legal side of things... the UW AD should have full ability to privately disclose misconduct information when GCU was in the process of hiring Shick. Also a bad look for GCU as they evidently didn't directly ask UW if there were any issues with misconduct while Shick was here.

    I am pretty sure almost every female (Including our ? AD), that is beyond a certain age, has experienced some level of the same type of thing. The only fault I find is that I can't fathom how she couldn't see this from the victim's perspective. At least to assume it may have happened until proving it didn't.

    But that's what the article points out, that she did pursue it, investigated, and found Shick to be at fault. You have to investigate. Biggest mistake was not firing him immediately. Jen continued to seek assistance for Strickland after she had left campus, continued to contact Strickland with the offer for care. As an organization of course you get things in writing. As noted this isn't an easy situation at all, and had Strickland sought to press charges, I think the AD would have supported Strickland in that pursuit.

    It's safe to say that this will happen again, and hopefully the AD puts in the appropriate measures to deal with it so there is no grey area.
    He resigned before the investigation was complete. Firing him before that would've a) assumed his guilt and b) drawn attention to the misconduct when Strickland wanted it under wraps
  • huskyhooliganhuskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,347 Swaye's Wigwam
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,860
    Too drunk to read
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Too drunk to read

    Bored motto?
  • kanehallkanehall Member Posts: 38
    Tip of the iceberg y'all....
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    kanehall said:

    Tip of the iceberg y'all....

    The first six tips were consensual
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    kanehall said:

    Tip of the iceberg y'all....

    The first six tips were consensual
  • GladstoneGladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    kanehall said:

    Tip of the iceberg y'all....

    The first six tips were consensual
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,993
    Gladstone said:

    kanehall said:

    Tip of the iceberg y'all....

    The first six tips were consensual
    just the tip. just the tip. I promise, just the tip.

    how many tims have I said that in my lifetim.
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,358 Founders Club

    Gladstone said:

    kanehall said:

    Tip of the iceberg y'all....

    The first six tips were consensual
    just the tip. just the tip. I promise, just the tip.

    how many tims have I said that in my lifetim.
    David Allan Coe. Three biggest lies. YW.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnEmghSrOig
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