Hondo's kind of candidate

SFGbob

Former Vice President Joe Biden, the 2020 Democrat frontrunner for president, lied in 1987 during his first of many runs for the Oval Office by claiming he marched in the Civil Rights Movement–something he never did.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/03/joe-biden-lied-in-1987-with-claim-he-marched-in-civil-rights-movement/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+breitbart+(Breitbart+News)

dhdawg

he's the worst Democrat in the field. you guys should be propping him up because worst case he loses to trump and best case he wins, does nothing for 4 years, and loses to a republican without the baggage.

RaceBannon

dhdawg said:

he's the worst Democrat in the field. you guys should be propping him up because worst case he loses to trump and best case he wins, does nothing for 4 years, and loses to a republican without the baggage.

"you guys" should be attacking him and setting up Bernie or one of the others that doesn't have all that baggage

Did you learn nothing from Hilary on manufactured front runner status?

GreenRiverGatorz

RaceBannon said:

dhdawg said:

he's the worst Democrat in the field. you guys should be propping him up because worst case he loses to trump and best case he wins, does nothing for 4 years, and loses to a republican without the baggage.

"you guys" should be attacking him and setting up Bernie or one of the others that doesn't have all that baggage

Did you learn nothing from Hilary on manufactured front runner status?

Eh, while their politics are very similar, Joe and Hillary couldn't be further apart on the likeability index. However, give the left 16 months to continue mud-raking Joe and that could very well change.

RaceBannon

GreenRiverGatorz said:

RaceBannon said:

dhdawg said:

he's the worst Democrat in the field. you guys should be propping him up because worst case he loses to trump and best case he wins, does nothing for 4 years, and loses to a republican without the baggage.

"you guys" should be attacking him and setting up Bernie or one of the others that doesn't have all that baggage

Did you learn nothing from Hilary on manufactured front runner status?

Eh, while their politics are very similar, Joe and Hillary couldn't be further apart on the likeability index. However, give the left 16 months to continue mud-raking Joe and that could very well change.

True but that wasn't the narrative

At all

It was the inevitability of Hilary that made the smartest woman ever a shoe in over a neophyte

Both parties could use a nice walk with some real people to gain some perspective

Joe is out front because of Obama. Same as Hilary

Joe isn't really all that likable the more you know. Its why he is at least a three time loser in national attempts

In 2008 the democrats went outside the box and avoided the Hilary disaster.

Kamala is the answer. You can't hate on old white males and then run one against "our" old white male.

A Black woman is damn near mandatory

2001400ex

Funny watching Bob now care about what a presidential candidate lies about.

GreenRiverGatorz

RaceBannon said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

RaceBannon said:

dhdawg said:

he's the worst Democrat in the field. you guys should be propping him up because worst case he loses to trump and best case he wins, does nothing for 4 years, and loses to a republican without the baggage.

"you guys" should be attacking him and setting up Bernie or one of the others that doesn't have all that baggage

Did you learn nothing from Hilary on manufactured front runner status?

Eh, while their politics are very similar, Joe and Hillary couldn't be further apart on the likeability index. However, give the left 16 months to continue mud-raking Joe and that could very well change.

True but that wasn't the narrative

At all

It was the inevitability of Hilary that made the smartest woman ever a shoe in over a neophyte

Both parties could use a nice walk with some real people to gain some perspective

Joe is out front because of Obama. Same as Hilary

Joe isn't really all that likable the more you know. Its why he is at least a three time loser in national attempts

In 2008 the democrats went outside the box and avoided the Hilary disaster.

Kamala is the answer. You can't hate on old white males and then run one against "our" old white male.

A Black woman is damn near mandatory

Curious why you think Harris is more of a threat than Warren, Booker, or Buti. Each have their own "minority" credentials that the left loves. Is Harris just the more savvy politician in your view?

RaceBannon

Imagine a GOP candidate that lied about being a native American

Harris is more centrist in her career which is going to hurt her in the primaries probably but positions her better in the general so yes would be my answer

Booker is insane IMO but that's just me

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

Funny watching Bob now care about what a presidential candidate lies about.

Where did I say I cared? Joe is a liar you're a liar. He is the perfect candidate for you Hondo.

If Joe wants to claim he marched in the Civil Right protests have it. I was never going to vote for him anyway. Him being a liar just makes him that much more attractive to you Hondo. You like to lie and you love it when the politicians you vote for lie to you.

And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Funny watching Bob now care about what a presidential candidate lies about.

Where did I say I cared? Joe is a liar you're a liar. He is the perfect candidate for you Hondo.

If Joe wants to claim he marched in the Civil Right protests have it. I was never going to vote for him anyway. Him being a liar just makes him that much more attractive to you Hondo. You like to lie and you love it when the politicians you vote for lie to you.

And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

I recall you posting when Trump lied. Yeah not so much. Idiot.

MikeDamone

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Funny watching Bob now care about what a presidential candidate lies about.

Where did I say I cared? Joe is a liar you're a liar. He is the perfect candidate for you Hondo.

If Joe wants to claim he marched in the Civil Right protests have it. I was never going to vote for him anyway. Him being a liar just makes him that much more attractive to you Hondo. You like to lie and you love it when the politicians you vote for lie to you.

And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

I recall you posting when Trump lied. Yeah not so much. Idiot.

But but but... says the purveyor logical fallacies.

2001400ex

MikeDamone said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Funny watching Bob now care about what a presidential candidate lies about.

Where did I say I cared? Joe is a liar you're a liar. He is the perfect candidate for you Hondo.

If Joe wants to claim he marched in the Civil Right protests have it. I was never going to vote for him anyway. Him being a liar just makes him that much more attractive to you Hondo. You like to lie and you love it when the politicians you vote for lie to you.

And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

I recall you posting when Trump lied. Yeah not so much. Idiot.

But but but... says the purveyor logical fallacies.

It's not a but but but when I'm talking about your actions. Any Trump supporter who cries like a bitch over Biden lying is a fucking idiot.

HustlinOwl

SFGbob said:

Former Vice President Joe Biden, the 2020 Democrat frontrunner for president, lied in 1987 during his first of many runs for the Oval Office by claiming he marched in the Civil Rights Movement–something he never did.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/03/joe-biden-lied-in-1987-with-claim-he-marched-in-civil-rights-movement/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+breitbart+(Breitbart+News)

Odd coincidence this happened in the same year.

Trump’s references to Russia go back at least as far as his 1987 book The Art of the Deal, in which he wrote that he was in talks with the Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin “about building a large luxury hotel across the street from the Kremlin in partnership with the Soviet government.”

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Funny watching Bob now care about what a presidential candidate lies about.

Where did I say I cared? Joe is a liar you're a liar. He is the perfect candidate for you Hondo.

If Joe wants to claim he marched in the Civil Right protests have it. I was never going to vote for him anyway. Him being a liar just makes him that much more attractive to you Hondo. You like to lie and you love it when the politicians you vote for lie to you.

And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

I recall you posting when Trump lied. Yeah not so much. Idiot.

If only you cared half as much about the hundreds of lies you tell here Hondo. Neither you or I can control Trump's lying can you control your own lying Hondo?


How about when a politician calls all Mexican immigrants rapists

SFGbob

HustlinOwl said:

SFGbob said:

Former Vice President Joe Biden, the 2020 Democrat frontrunner for president, lied in 1987 during his first of many runs for the Oval Office by claiming he marched in the Civil Rights Movement–something he never did.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/03/joe-biden-lied-in-1987-with-claim-he-marched-in-civil-rights-movement/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+breitbart+(Breitbart+News)

Odd coincidence this happened in the same year.

Trump’s references to Russia go back at least as far as his 1987 book The Art of the Deal, in which he wrote that he was in talks with the Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin “about building a large luxury hotel across the street from the Kremlin in partnership with the Soviet government.”

Owl's another one who loves to lie and loves being lied to.

dhdawg

RaceBannon said:

dhdawg said:

he's the worst Democrat in the field. you guys should be propping him up because worst case he loses to trump and best case he wins, does nothing for 4 years, and loses to a republican without the baggage.

"you guys" should be attacking him and setting up Bernie or one of the others that doesn't have all that baggage

Did you learn nothing from Hilary on manufactured front runner status?

I am attacking him. I hate him. I will vote for him over Trump but he damn well might be my least favorite in the field (although cereal guy from colorado is giving him a run). The left is busy digging up dirt on him and it's working, as his numbers are dropping. Maybe this is wishful thinking but I don't see him doing well at all in the debates, and I think he will end up just as irrelevant as when he ran in 2008.

I am still a Bernie supporter. He remains our best chance at winning (he's polling +12% in Michigan vs trump) and he's the most in line with my politics. Kamala would be my second choice then maybe Warren 3rd.

Everyone else can fuck off

ZoneUW

Left or Right, NAZI or COMMIE no one likes Joe Biden

ZoneUW

HustlinOwl said:

SFGbob said:

Former Vice President Joe Biden, the 2020 Democrat frontrunner for president, lied in 1987 during his first of many runs for the Oval Office by claiming he marched in the Civil Rights Movement–something he never did.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/03/joe-biden-lied-in-1987-with-claim-he-marched-in-civil-rights-movement/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+breitbart+(Breitbart+News)

Odd coincidence this happened in the same year.

Trump’s references to Russia go back at least as far as his 1987 book The Art of the Deal, in which he wrote that he was in talks with the Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin “about building a large luxury hotel across the street from the Kremlin in partnership with the Soviet government.”

Don't waste your time Owl, Bob doesn't care about when conservatives lie he has been very transparent about that

SFGbob

ZoneUW said:

HustlinOwl said:

SFGbob said:

Former Vice President Joe Biden, the 2020 Democrat frontrunner for president, lied in 1987 during his first of many runs for the Oval Office by claiming he marched in the Civil Rights Movement–something he never did.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/03/joe-biden-lied-in-1987-with-claim-he-marched-in-civil-rights-movement/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+breitbart+(Breitbart+News)

Odd coincidence this happened in the same year.

Trump’s references to Russia go back at least as far as his 1987 book The Art of the Deal, in which he wrote that he was in talks with the Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin “about building a large luxury hotel across the street from the Kremlin in partnership with the Soviet government.”

Don't waste your time Owl, Bob doesn't care about when conservatives lie he has been very transparent about that

Where have I ever excused anyone lying?

2001400ex

dhdawg said:

RaceBannon said:

dhdawg said:

he's the worst Democrat in the field. you guys should be propping him up because worst case he loses to trump and best case he wins, does nothing for 4 years, and loses to a republican without the baggage.

"you guys" should be attacking him and setting up Bernie or one of the others that doesn't have all that baggage

Did you learn nothing from Hilary on manufactured front runner status?

I am attacking him. I hate him. I will vote for him over Trump but he damn well might be my least favorite in the field (although cereal guy from colorado is giving him a run). The left is busy digging up dirt on him and it's working, as his numbers are dropping. Maybe this is wishful thinking but I don't see him doing well at all in the debates, and I think he will end up just as irrelevant as when he ran in 2008.

I am still a Bernie supporter. He remains our best chance at winning (he's polling +12% in Michigan vs trump) and he's the most in line with my politics. Kamala would be my second choice then maybe Warren 3rd.

Everyone else can fuck off

I'm guessing there will be a candidate who will come out of the woodwork. There is still 9 months until the first primary.

dhdawg

2001400ex said:

dhdawg said:

RaceBannon said:

dhdawg said:

he's the worst Democrat in the field. you guys should be propping him up because worst case he loses to trump and best case he wins, does nothing for 4 years, and loses to a republican without the baggage.

"you guys" should be attacking him and setting up Bernie or one of the others that doesn't have all that baggage

Did you learn nothing from Hilary on manufactured front runner status?

I am attacking him. I hate him. I will vote for him over Trump but he damn well might be my least favorite in the field (although cereal guy from colorado is giving him a run). The left is busy digging up dirt on him and it's working, as his numbers are dropping. Maybe this is wishful thinking but I don't see him doing well at all in the debates, and I think he will end up just as irrelevant as when he ran in 2008.

I am still a Bernie supporter. He remains our best chance at winning (he's polling +12% in Michigan vs trump) and he's the most in line with my politics. Kamala would be my second choice then maybe Warren 3rd.

Everyone else can fuck off

I'm guessing there will be a candidate who will come out of the woodwork. There is still 9 months until the first primary.

If it's someone, it will not be among those currently running. Stacey Abrams perhaps.