Trump’s tax cuts barely boosted growth or wages and is not paying for itself
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I agree. It doesn't even make any sense. Oh, you gave me some of my tax money I paid and now you expect all of it back? Then what the fuck is the point in giving it back to me in the first place?MikeDamone said:Anyone who says tax cuts need to “pay for themselves” need to be kicked in the nuts and lit on fire. Fuck you.
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CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
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TurdBomber said:
No one doubts your space cadet credentials ThudBomberFS.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours. -
Doubling down on stupidity.CirrhosisDawg said:
Tariffs are the protectionist recourse for hopelessly uncompetitive trumptards like you GayBob. Just own it.SFGbob said:
El Monte went with gibberish. So I've reduced myself to the level of Communist China because I don't think Chinese IP theft is part of the "free market" like you do.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
Logic only a Kunt could love. And now you see boys and girls why this Kunt is so hesitant to let go of the side of the kiddie pool.
Glug, glug El Monte.
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CD's sharing the basement? Can mom make that much meatloaf?RaceBannon said:
Why?CirrhosisDawg said:
See? Now dissemble and rationalize about tariffs with Mexico.RaceBannon said:
The private sector is like the scorpion. Its going to do what it can to maximize profits because that's who it is. My friends on the left tell me the government is required to save them from their worst instincts.RedRocket said:Why is the private sector blameless in all of this? None of these companies were forced into JVs with China. They go in there knowing the risks but decide that cost savings or access to Chinese market is worth it. Hacking is a similar situation. Build better IT security infrastructure if you don't want China stealing your IP.
You dipshits are quick to place the onus on the individual when poor finanical choices are made. Where is the outrage at the private sector for not showing more responsibility here. China won't make any substantial concessions in future trade deals because of tariffs. Enforcement in China will always be lax. Worthless ding to the economy.
If that's not the case then lets do REAL free markets and let the winners win.
China will submit when they think they have to because we are serious. Not when our politicians and leaders are taking cash from them to sell us out
China needs us more than we need them. A market of a billion peasants is an illusion.
Does it effect the illegals in your basement? -
Your support of protecting obsolescence and incompetence is well known ThudBomberFS.TurdBomber said:
Doubling down on stupidity.CirrhosisDawg said:
Tariffs are the protectionist recourse for hopelessly uncompetitive trumptards like you GayBob. Just own it.SFGbob said:
El Monte went with gibberish. So I've reduced myself to the level of Communist China because I don't think Chinese IP theft is part of the "free market" like you do.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
Logic only a Kunt could love. And now you see boys and girls why this Kunt is so hesitant to let go of the side of the kiddie pool.
Glug, glug El Monte.
CD's chosen his hill to die on. Again. -
But stilldflea said:
I agree. It doesn't even make any sense. Oh, you gave me some of my tax money I paid and now you expect all of it back? Then what the fuck is the point in giving it back to me in the first place?MikeDamone said:Anyone who says tax cuts need to “pay for themselves” need to be kicked in the nuts and lit on fire. Fuck you.
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Your parents told you the short bus was for the "smart kids" to spare your feelings, didn't they, CD?CirrhosisDawg said:
Your support of protecting obsolescence and incompetence is well known ThudBomberFS.TurdBomber said:
Doubling down on stupidity.CirrhosisDawg said:
Tariffs are the protectionist recourse for hopelessly uncompetitive trumptards like you GayBob. Just own it.SFGbob said:
El Monte went with gibberish. So I've reduced myself to the level of Communist China because I don't think Chinese IP theft is part of the "free market" like you do.CirrhosisDawg said:
It’s simple GayBob. Tariffs (taxes on US consumers) are the natural recourse for trumptards who are beaten like a drum by china. Since you can’t beat them you advocate joining them. You are no better than a chi com GayBob.SFGbob said:What the fuck happened to El Monte? I see him running that ignorant mouth of his in other threads why did he run away from this one?
El Monte, how did I reduce myself to the level of Communist China? Come on Kunt, you made the claim back up that fucking big mouth of yours.
Logic only a Kunt could love. And now you see boys and girls why this Kunt is so hesitant to let go of the side of the kiddie pool.
Glug, glug El Monte.
CD's chosen his hill to die on. Again.
Keep supporting Clinton Era trade policy while calling others "obsolete." Yet another word you don't know the meaning of? -
The private sector should have more foresight than the scorpion. Executive compensation places too much emphasis short-term value maximization. It's part of the China problem but is also a different problem.RaceBannon said:
The private sector is like the scorpion. Its going to do what it can to maximize profits because that's who it is. My friends on the left tell me the government is required to save them from their worst instincts.RedRocket said:Why is the private sector blameless in all of this? None of these companies were forced into JVs with China. They go in there knowing the risks but decide that cost savings or access to Chinese market is worth it. Hacking is a similar situation. Build better IT security infrastructure if you don't want China stealing your IP.
You dipshits are quick to place the onus on the individual when poor finanical choices are made. Where is the outrage at the private sector for not showing more responsibility here. China won't make any substantial concessions in future trade deals because of tariffs. Enforcement in China will always be lax. Worthless ding to the economy.
If that's not the case then lets do REAL free markets and let the winners win.
China will submit when they think they have to because we are serious. Not when our politicians and leaders are taking cash from them to sell us out
China needs us more than we need them. A market of a billion peasants is an illusion.
I don't think the tariffs will make them submit. Or if they do submit they likely won't enforce. For this to happen China will need a recession to come to bargaining table. If the US wants to go into negotiations with a strong hand our economy will have to continue to chug along. Trump also needs to win a second term or we're probably starting from scratch. Lots of ifs. Could work if everything plays out just right. If not we just wasted alot of economic productivity and we're back where we started. -
And that is the scary part. If Trump loses, the left will go on a economic destruction mission to feed their socialist agenda and the world will feast on our weakness.RedRocket said:
The private sector should have more foresight than the scorpion. Executive compensation places too much emphasis short-term value maximization. It's part of the China problem but is also a different problem.RaceBannon said:
The private sector is like the scorpion. Its going to do what it can to maximize profits because that's who it is. My friends on the left tell me the government is required to save them from their worst instincts.RedRocket said:Why is the private sector blameless in all of this? None of these companies were forced into JVs with China. They go in there knowing the risks but decide that cost savings or access to Chinese market is worth it. Hacking is a similar situation. Build better IT security infrastructure if you don't want China stealing your IP.
You dipshits are quick to place the onus on the individual when poor finanical choices are made. Where is the outrage at the private sector for not showing more responsibility here. China won't make any substantial concessions in future trade deals because of tariffs. Enforcement in China will always be lax. Worthless ding to the economy.
If that's not the case then lets do REAL free markets and let the winners win.
China will submit when they think they have to because we are serious. Not when our politicians and leaders are taking cash from them to sell us out
China needs us more than we need them. A market of a billion peasants is an illusion.
I don't think the tariffs will make them submit. Or if they do submit they likely won't enforce. For this to happen China will need a recession to come to bargaining table. If the US wants to go into negotiations with a strong hand our economy will have to continue to chug along. Trump also needs to win a second term or we're probably starting from scratch. Lots of ifs. Could work if everything plays out just right. If not we just wasted alot of economic productivity and we're back where we started.
What I find interesting about this whole thing is democrats bitching about the damage the tariffs are doing to our commerce. Where were they when the Chinese were putting my industry out of business? Not a peep from Clinton or any other democrats for that matter. They can go fuck themselves.
Private businesses have made a decision in the past to get into bed with the Chinese devil for short term gains at the expense of trillions of lost revenue in areas not under their control. I have zero empathy for them or the democrats who have watched this happen and done nothing but now want to hypocritically bitch. Let the prices increase, employ more people in the manufacturing sector here in this country, find alternative raw material sources, be healthy and move on. We can't afford trading partners who don't play fair, steal our technology and are using it against us by spying on us with that tech.
The democrats on here like that behavior by the Chinese and could give two shits about all the people the Chinese have put out of business here in this country. Hence their criticism of Trump when what he is doing is the right thing.
