Most likely to not RS
1. Latu
2. Cam Williams
3. Calvert
4. Heimuli
5. Puka
6. Asa Turner
I put Calvert over Heimuli because he was enrolled for Spring and I love McDuffie but I don't think you burn his redshirt just to have him return kicks. Looking back over the last three years we've only had three true freshmen be impact players, Rapp, Black Beast, and Salvon. Other true freshmen played but were in back up roles or played out of necessity.
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Baker was good.GOAT said:Not sure which board to put this on, but I'm going with the recruiting board bc they haven't played a down. I'm curious to see who everyone thinks are the most likely to not RS this year. I'd go with-
1. Latu
2. Cam Williams
3. Calvert
4. Heimuli
5. Puka
6. Asa Turner
I put Calvert over Heimuli because he was enrolled for Spring and I love McDuffie but I don't think you burn his redshirt just to have him return kicks. Looking back over the last three years we've only had three true freshmen be impact players, Rapp, Black Beast, and Salvon. Other true freshmen played but were in back up roles or played out of necessity. -
So was SMFJ.
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theknowledge said:
Baker was good.GOAT said:Not sure which board to put this on, but I'm going with the recruiting board bc they haven't played a down. I'm curious to see who everyone thinks are the most likely to not RS this year. I'd go with-
1. Latu
2. Cam Williams
3. Calvert
4. Heimuli
5. Puka
6. Asa Turner
I put Calvert over Heimuli because he was enrolled for Spring and I love McDuffie but I don't think you burn his redshirt just to have him return kicks. Looking back over the last three years we've only had three true freshmen be impact players, Rapp, Black Beast, and Salvon. Other true freshmen played but were in back up roles or played out of necessity.
He said last three years. Go past that you get Gaskin and Adams too among others.theknowledge said:So was SMFJ.
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Aside from kicker I would go
Cam Will
Calvert
Asa
Heimuli
Puka
Cam Davis
Bandes
Mostly just positional need at Safety and LB
Tuitele obviously could but I give Bandes the edge because he early enrolled. I think Latu redshirts.
Wildcard IMO is Fautanu, I forget his injury status but if he's healthy and over 300 lbs by summer I think he could push for a guard spot.
But knowing us we will redshirt literally everyone except Cam Will and Tim Horn. -
Latu most likely going to RS, he has the physical tools but none of the skills
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Cam Williams and Puka for sure play
Turner will be interesting to see where he fits in
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I’ve seen Fautanu on campus and he’s still using one of those scooter things I doubt he’ll be healthy by Fall. I’ve also seen Wattenberg and he looks like that one chubby friend everyone has. I want Bainivalu or Ale to beat him out badly.
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Good point on Fautanu, Neighbor. I really think he might be the best player in this class when it's all said and done.
But I'd love it if we could keep it to just Calvert and AlopeciaDawg. Heimuli will be really hard to keep off the field though. -
I think Fautanu and Nacua are the two best offensive recruits. Defense is hard, but Cam Williams is going to play and it won’t be surprising if he starts. The two ILB’s will play. Latu maybe.guntlove said:Good point on Fautanu, Neighbor. I really think he might be the best player in this class when it's all said and done.
But I'd love it if we could keep it to just Calvert and AlopeciaDawg. Heimuli will be really hard to keep off the field though.
A DT will probably play, but they might use the 4 game rule and use a couple to fill in gaps when needed. That is probably the best move because none of them will be actually good right away. -
None of the skills.FirePete said:Latu most likely going to RS, he has the physical tools but none of the skills
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How many in here are that chubby friend that everyone has?GOAT said:I’ve seen Fautanu on campus and he’s still using one of those scooter things I doubt he’ll be healthy by Fall. I’ve also seen Wattenberg and he looks like that one chubby friend everyone has. I want Bainivalu or Ale to beat him out badly.
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Tim HornGOAT said:Not sure which board to put this on, but I'm going with the recruiting board bc they haven't played a down. I'm curious to see who everyone thinks are the most likely to not RS this year. I'd go with-
1. Latu
2. Cam Williams
3. Calvert
4. Heimuli
5. Puka
6. Asa Turner
I put Calvert over Heimuli because he was enrolled for Spring and I love McDuffie but I don't think you burn his redshirt just to have him return kicks. Looking back over the last three years we've only had three true freshmen be impact players, Rapp, Black Beast, and Salvon. Other true freshmen played but were in back up roles or played out of necessity.
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If we play any of the freshman OL I am killing something.
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CallMeBigErn said:
How many in here are that chubby friend that everyone has?GOAT said:I’ve seen Fautanu on campus and he’s still using one of those scooter things I doubt he’ll be healthy by Fall. I’ve also seen Wattenberg and he looks like that one chubby friend everyone has. I want Bainivalu or Ale to beat him out badly.
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I didn't give you permission to use that video of me. Shit's embarrassing.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:CallMeBigErn said:
How many in here are that chubby friend that everyone has?GOAT said:I’ve seen Fautanu on campus and he’s still using one of those scooter things I doubt he’ll be healthy by Fall. I’ve also seen Wattenberg and he looks like that one chubby friend everyone has. I want Bainivalu or Ale to beat him out badly.
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WOODCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:CallMeBigErn said:
How many in here are that chubby friend that everyone has?GOAT said:I’ve seen Fautanu on campus and he’s still using one of those scooter things I doubt he’ll be healthy by Fall. I’ve also seen Wattenberg and he looks like that one chubby friend everyone has. I want Bainivalu or Ale to beat him out badly.
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Looks like Ivan got ahold of herCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:CallMeBigErn said:
How many in here are that chubby friend that everyone has?GOAT said:I’ve seen Fautanu on campus and he’s still using one of those scooter things I doubt he’ll be healthy by Fall. I’ve also seen Wattenberg and he looks like that one chubby friend everyone has. I want Bainivalu or Ale to beat him out badly.
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Should have made it a poll. @Gladstone weeps.GOAT said:Not sure which board to put this on, but I'm going with the recruiting board bc they haven't played a down. I'm curious to see who everyone thinks are the most likely to not RS this year. I'd go with-
1. Latu
2. Cam Williams
3. Calvert
4. Heimuli
5. Puka
6. Asa Turner
I put Calvert over Heimuli because he was enrolled for Spring and I love McDuffie but I don't think you burn his redshirt just to have him return kicks. Looking back over the last three years we've only had three true freshmen be impact players, Rapp, Black Beast, and Salvon. Other true freshmen played but were in back up roles or played out of necessity. -
Calvert because he has a spring behind him and thinness at ILB.
Heimuli because he's probably a 3 and done, 4 years max.
McDuffie is a 4 and done so no sense redshirting him even if all he does is return kicks.
Bandes because a a fresh nose is going to play, and he's more likely than 17 year old Paama.
Cam William's obviously.
That's it. Nacau and Turner are possibles, but I see them getting their 4 games and redshirts. Tuitele as well. -
The definitive list.
1. CamWill
2. Calvert
3. Heimuli
4. Turner
5. Davis/Nacua
Big fellas all gotta redshirt and if you disagree go look at Trey's career and shut the fuck up. I wish Nacua was higher on this list but Baccellia, Fuller, Pounds, & Chin aka the partially responsible for Joe Ngata Quartet, will see otherwise. CamWill & Asa are at a position with absolutely no depth (Isaiah Pola-Mao & Chaz Ah You say "Hi") plus CamWill is already better, longer, and more physically talented than Gilchrist.
Calvert is too physically matured and we still need TWO guys to beat out Manu so that in the highly likely case of a Welly injury, Kyler is still as far away from the field as possible. Sirmon/Tafisi/Calvert/Heimuli/Ulofoshio will hopefully put us out of our misery. Heimuli is a special teams ACE this year at minimum but with him being penciled in as the heir to the Shaq/KB/BBK/WELLY WILL position, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a 4-Gamer. -
Bandes also missed a lot of early enrollment because of his appendicitis(?) pretty much negating that advantage. Paama also a year younger than basically everyone. I would rather see both redshirt(with 4 game rotational tim of course).LaMichael_Corleone said:The definitive list.
1. CamWill
2. Calvert
3. Heimuli
4. Turner
5. Davis/Nacua
Big fellas all gotta redshirt and if you disagree go look at Trey's career and shut the fuck up. I wish Nacua was higher on this list but Baccellia, Fuller, Pounds, & Chin aka the partially responsible for Joe Ngata Quartet, will see otherwise. CamWill & Asa are at a position with absolutely no depth (Isaiah Pola-Mao & Chaz Ah You say "Hi") plus CamWill is already better, longer, and more physically talented than Gilchrist.
Calvert is too physically matured and we still need TWO guys to beat out Manu so that in the highly likely case of a Welly injury, Kyler is still as far away from the field as possible. Sirmon/Tafisi/Calvert/Heimuli/Ulofoshio will hopefully put us out of our misery. Heimuli is a special teams ACE this year at minimum but with him being penciled in as the heir to the Shaq/KB/BBK/WELLY WILL position, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a 4-Gamer. -
On top of them being needed for the defensive rotation, those first 4 guys should all be key special teams players right out of the gateLaMichael_Corleone said:The definitive list.
1. CamWill
2. Calvert
3. Heimuli
4. Turner
5. Davis/Nacua
Big fellas all gotta redshirt and if you disagree go look at Trey's career and shut the fuck up. I wish Nacua was higher on this list but Baccellia, Fuller, Pounds, & Chin aka the partially responsible for Joe Ngata Quartet, will see otherwise. CamWill & Asa are at a position with absolutely no depth (Isaiah Pola-Mao & Chaz Ah You say "Hi") plus CamWill is already better, longer, and more physically talented than Gilchrist.
Calvert is too physically matured and we still need TWO guys to beat out Manu so that in the highly likely case of a Welly injury, Kyler is still as far away from the field as possible. Sirmon/Tafisi/Calvert/Heimuli/Ulofoshio will hopefully put us out of our misery. Heimuli is a special teams ACE this year at minimum but with him being penciled in as the heir to the Shaq/KB/BBK/WELLY WILL position, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a 4-Gamer. -
I don't disagree that those guys could be special teams stars but with our schedule this year I doubt there's a meaningful need for them on special teams in more than four games. Would hate to see them burn a redshirt for 12 snaps at kick coverage. If they are already burning it playing meaningful snaps on D then it is what it is. McDuffie could be that kind of difference maker on special teams but I doubt Petermen trusts a true freshman with those duties unless he's next level.NEsnake12 said:
On top of them being needed for the defensive rotation, those first 4 guys should all be key special teams players right out of the gateLaMichael_Corleone said:The definitive list.
1. CamWill
2. Calvert
3. Heimuli
4. Turner
5. Davis/Nacua
Big fellas all gotta redshirt and if you disagree go look at Trey's career and shut the fuck up. I wish Nacua was higher on this list but Baccellia, Fuller, Pounds, & Chin aka the partially responsible for Joe Ngata Quartet, will see otherwise. CamWill & Asa are at a position with absolutely no depth (Isaiah Pola-Mao & Chaz Ah You say "Hi") plus CamWill is already better, longer, and more physically talented than Gilchrist.
Calvert is too physically matured and we still need TWO guys to beat out Manu so that in the highly likely case of a Welly injury, Kyler is still as far away from the field as possible. Sirmon/Tafisi/Calvert/Heimuli/Ulofoshio will hopefully put us out of our misery. Heimuli is a special teams ACE this year at minimum but with him being penciled in as the heir to the Shaq/KB/BBK/WELLY WILL position, I wouldn't be surprised if he's a 4-Gamer. -
As far as Nacua goes, I think a lot will depend on how Bynum, Osbirbe, and Spiker look. If all those guys have made big strides, I dont care to see Nacua's RS burned so that he can catch 5 passes and play some on special teams. With the new 4 games rule, I'd like it if he gets playing time early, then make the decision of whether he will be a strong contributor for the season. If not, let him sit and preserve the RS
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Justyn Ross had 1,000 yard receiving as a true freshman with Tee Higgins, Amari Rodgers, and Hunter Renfrow in front of him. I get your point but there's no reason Aaron Fuller should play as a true frosh and Puka doesn't. At least I hope Pete sees it that way. If Pete can coach and develop like we all know he can, it shouldn't matter who is in front of Ty, Bynum, Spiker, Osborne, & Nacua with their talent, Pete should be able to make them better than the older players.bananasnblondes said:As far as Nacua goes, I think a lot will depend on how Bynum, Osbirbe, and Spiker look. If all those guys have made big strides, I dont care to see Nacua's RS burned so that he can catch 5 passes and play some on special teams. With the new 4 games rule, I'd like it if he gets playing time early, then make the decision of whether he will be a strong contributor for the season. If not, let him sit and preserve the RS
There is zero excuses as to why Spiker & Osborne shouldn't be All-PAC-12 as RS-FR and to why Nacua can't be a late season explosive play machine, if Aaron Fuller was a number 3/starter as a true freshman. -
Before or after the ACL?Swaye said:
WOODCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:CallMeBigErn said:
How many in here are that chubby friend that everyone has?GOAT said:I’ve seen Fautanu on campus and he’s still using one of those scooter things I doubt he’ll be healthy by Fall. I’ve also seen Wattenberg and he looks like that one chubby friend everyone has. I want Bainivalu or Ale to beat him out badly.
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There's no reason Fuller should play as a true frosh and Spiker doesn't. But it happened. And at this point we have a shit load of bodies at the position. If Puka plays it'll mean he's really special. If it's anything other than that reason our coaches fucked up. Either by not developing several classes worth of talent ahead of him, or by misguidedly burning his redshirt.LaMichael_Corleone said:
Justyn Ross had 1,000 yard receiving as a true freshman with Tee Higgins, Amari Rodgers, and Hunter Renfrow in front of him. I get your point but there's no reason Aaron Fuller should play as a true frosh and Puka doesn't. At least I hope Pete sees it that way. If Pete can coach and develop like we all know he can, it shouldn't matter who is in front of Ty, Bynum, Spiker, Osborne, & Nacua with their talent, Pete should be able to make them better than the older players.bananasnblondes said:As far as Nacua goes, I think a lot will depend on how Bynum, Osbirbe, and Spiker look. If all those guys have made big strides, I dont care to see Nacua's RS burned so that he can catch 5 passes and play some on special teams. With the new 4 games rule, I'd like it if he gets playing time early, then make the decision of whether he will be a strong contributor for the season. If not, let him sit and preserve the RS
There is zero excuses as to why Spiker & Osborne shouldn't be All-PAC-12 as RS-FR and to why Nacua can't be a late season explosive play machine, if Aaron Fuller was a number 3/starter as a true freshman. -
Estimated likelihood of playing >4 games in 2019-20:
Williams 90%
Horn 80%
C. Davis 80%
Calvert 70%
Nacua 70%
Heimuli 60%
Latu 60%
Bandes 50%
McDuffie 50%
Turner 40%
Tuitele 30%
Tuputala 20%
Pa’ama 20%
T. Davis 10%
KamFab 10%
Luciano 10%
Morris 0%
Buelow 0%
Kalepo 0%
Fautanu 0%
Ngalu 0%
Trice 0%
Ah You 0%
Fowler 0% -
DisagreeTTJ said:Estimated likelihood of playing >4 games in 2019-20:
Williams 90%
Horn 80%
C. Davis 80%
Calvert 70%
Nacua 70%
Heimuli 60%
Latu 60%
Bandes 50%
McDuffie 50%
Turner 40%
Tuitele 30%
Tuputala 20%
Pa’ama 20%
T. Davis 10%
KamFab 10%
Luciano 10%
Morris 0%
Buelow 0%
Kalepo 0%
Fautanu 0%
Ngalu 0%
Trice 0%
Ah You 0%
Fowler 0%
