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Babushka's Recruiting Philosophy

Is to not recruit any good football players while pretending this is 1997: https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2019/05/oregon-state-football-coach-jonathan-smiths-approach-involves-the-phone-call-and-not-too-much-social-media.html

Under Smith, Oregon State isn’t nearly as prominent on Twitter. He hasn’t posted anything to his personal Twitter account since last October. Oregon State football has an active Twitter account, but it mostly spreads news about the current team and former players. OSU assistant coaches have personal Twitter accounts, and some use it to retweet posts from recruits.

Smith acknowledges there is value to using social media as a recruiting tool. It’s just not his style.

“Maybe I’m old school, but I’m just not on it that much,” Smith said. “I’m way more into phone calls that I can have with recruits rather than retweeting their picture. That doesn’t say I’m right for doing it and they’re wrong. It’s just a different way of doing it.

Smith pauses, and turning to Oregon, says “I’m not saying their stuff isn’t authentic. I’m really not. Sounds like (Cristobal) is all over Twitter. I don’t know. I haven’t seen it. I’m sure there are some benefits to it.”

To be fair, Alabama’s Nick Saban doesn’t have a Twitter account, and the Crimson Tide seem to do quite well in recruiting. Washington coach Chris Petersen uses Twitter, but outside of an occasional “WOOF!!” tweet, it’s rarely about recruiting.


It seems to be paying off, as last year's horrid recruiting class is going to look like Clemson's current class in comparison.

Comments

  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    I do like how he's trying to say that he thinks Cristobalz is fake while being too much of a pussy to actually say it.
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    That is sad as fuck. I mean fuck them all, but this is sad.
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    To be fair, it must suck to recruit to OSU. Your best pitch is "Technically we are a Pac-12 school"

    I don't know if he'd do that much better if he really tried.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    To be fair, it must suck to recruit to OSU. Your best pitch is "Technically we are a Pac-12 school"

    I don't know if he'd do that much better if he really tried.

    Dennis Erickson seemed to do okay, so it's not impossible with the right guy
    Another Stephen Jackson isn't walking through that door.
  • Babushka
    Babushka Member Posts: 211

    Is to not recruit any good football players while pretending this is 1997: https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2019/05/oregon-state-football-coach-jonathan-smiths-approach-involves-the-phone-call-and-not-too-much-social-media.html

    Under Smith, Oregon State isn’t nearly as prominent on Twitter. He hasn’t posted anything to his personal Twitter account since last October. Oregon State football has an active Twitter account, but it mostly spreads news about the current team and former players. OSU assistant coaches have personal Twitter accounts, and some use it to retweet posts from recruits.

    Smith acknowledges there is value to using social media as a recruiting tool. It’s just not his style.

    “Maybe I’m old school, but I’m just not on it that much,” Smith said. “I’m way more into phone calls that I can have with recruits rather than retweeting their picture. That doesn’t say I’m right for doing it and they’re wrong. It’s just a different way of doing it.

    Smith pauses, and turning to Oregon, says “I’m not saying their stuff isn’t authentic. I’m really not. Sounds like (Cristobal) is all over Twitter. I don’t know. I haven’t seen it. I’m sure there are some benefits to it.”

    To be fair, Alabama’s Nick Saban doesn’t have a Twitter account, and the Crimson Tide seem to do quite well in recruiting. Washington coach Chris Petersen uses Twitter, but outside of an occasional “WOOF!!” tweet, it’s rarely about recruiting.


    It seems to be paying off, as last year's horrid recruiting class is going to look like Clemson's current class in comparison.

    Vat you fail to understand is thees, once telephone come to my veellage last year we discover all the teenagers love it veddy much. Is going to be secret veapon in recruiting vars. Babuschka veddy dialed in weeth Gen Z.

    Please to be fucking off vodka duck!
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Dennis Erickson was the fucking man.

    Before he sucked at asu
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,044 Founders Club

    To be fair, it must suck to recruit to OSU. Your best pitch is "Technically we are a Pac-12 school"

    I don't know if he'd do that much better if he really tried.

    Dennis Erickson seemed to do okay, so it's not impossible with the right guy
    If Leach can get his guys in there at Western Moscow while being on the spectrum I don't really believe there's a school in the Pac12 that can't. It just takes the right guy.

    @Babushka *might be better off differentiating himself in the recruiting game by doing things the old-fashioned way instead of trying to do what everyone else is doing. I mean, how sad would hype videos like what Oregon has on twitter be coming out of Corvallis?

    No twisters, not saying what he's doing is going to work, but you do have to figure out some way to uniquely recruit a place like Oregon State if you ever hope to have any success besides middle of the PAC.
  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,679 Founders Club
    Fuck that guy, we’ve been through worse

    I remember trying to convince myself chancellor young would be a difference maker.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,276 Founders Club

    To be fair, it must suck to recruit to OSU. Your best pitch is "Technically we are a Pac-12 school"

    I don't know if he'd do that much better if he really tried.

    Dennis Erickson seemed to do okay, so it's not impossible with the right guy
    That's true but once he leaves schools tend to fumigate the program
    If you want an omelette you've got to crack a few eggshells
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,276 Founders Club

    To be fair, it must suck to recruit to OSU. Your best pitch is "Technically we are a Pac-12 school"

    I don't know if he'd do that much better if he really tried.

    Dennis Erickson seemed to do okay, so it's not impossible with the right guy
    If Leach can get his guys in there at Western Moscow while being on the spectrum I don't really believe there's a school in the Pac12 that can't. It just takes the right guy.

    @Babushka *might be better off differentiating himself in the recruiting game by doing things the old-fashioned way instead of trying to do what everyone else is doing. I mean, how sad would hype videos like what Oregon has on twitter be coming out of Corvallis?

    No twisters, not saying what he's doing is going to work, but you do have to figure out some way to uniquely recruit a place like Oregon State if you ever hope to have any success besides middle of the PAC.
    Actually, since I hate hype videos and all that recruiting bullshit, you'd think I would be applauding Babushka for his stance on social media. But he put me through so many angst-ridden Saturdays that I just can't stand him.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,127

    To be fair, it must suck to recruit to OSU. Your best pitch is "Technically we are a Pac-12 school"

    I don't know if he'd do that much better if he really tried.

    Dennis Erickson seemed to do okay, so it's not impossible with the right guy
    This. Stars matter, but there are so many guys picked in the NFL draft that were basically ignored when they were recruits. It’s harder to win at WSU or OSU, but the right coach can win anywhere.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    Beavlet and recruiting. El oh El
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,241 Founders Club

    To be fair, it must suck to recruit to OSU. Your best pitch is "Technically we are a Pac-12 school"

    I don't know if he'd do that much better if he really tried.

    Dennis Erickson seemed to do okay, so it's not impossible with the right guy
    If Leach can get his guys in there at Western Moscow while being on the spectrum I don't really believe there's a school in the Pac12 that can't. It just takes the right guy.

    @Babushka *might be better off differentiating himself in the recruiting game by doing things the old-fashioned way instead of trying to do what everyone else is doing. I mean, how sad would hype videos like what Oregon has on twitter be coming out of Corvallis?

    No twisters, not saying what he's doing is going to work, but you do have to figure out some way to uniquely recruit a place like Oregon State if you ever hope to have any success besides middle of the PAC.
    Actually, since I hate hype videos and all that recruiting bullshit, you'd think I would be applauding Babushka for his stance on social media. But he put me through so many angst-ridden Saturdays that I just can't stand him.
    “Angst-Ridden Saturdays” would be a great book title.


    Just saying. ;)
    What’s the point? Fetters will just take credit for it in a few years anyway.
    Already on it.
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    Update, with a shout out to Peterman:

    He addressed those concerns this week on both “The Bald Faced Truth” and “Dirt and Sprague,” indicating he needs to evolve.

    That, however, isn’t the biggest issue for the Beavers.

    In the modern recruiting world, high school kids are being offered earlier and earlier, and there’s a perception that struggling programs should offer first.

    Under Smith, Oregon State has built a reputation for taking its time before offering scholarships to high school prospects – an approach used by Washington’s Chris Petersen.

    And it has rubbed many recruits the wrong way, angering some of the program’s top targets.


    Some of the program's top targets have been rubbed the wrong way (too gentle? Not yankoffed hard enough?) and are at risk of taking their talents to Weber State instate.
  • Babushka
    Babushka Member Posts: 211

    Update, with a shout out to Peterman:

    He addressed those concerns this week on both “The Bald Faced Truth” and “Dirt and Sprague,” indicating he needs to evolve.

    That, however, isn’t the biggest issue for the Beavers.

    In the modern recruiting world, high school kids are being offered earlier and earlier, and there’s a perception that struggling programs should offer first.

    Under Smith, Oregon State has built a reputation for taking its time before offering scholarships to high school prospects – an approach used by Washington’s Chris Petersen.

    And it has rubbed many recruits the wrong way, angering some of the program’s top targets.


    Some of the program's top targets have been rubbed the wrong way (too gentle? Not yankoffed hard enough?) and are at risk of taking their talents to Weber State instate.

    We can't all be village bicycle like Oregon.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    haie said:

    Beavlet and recruiting. El oh El

    Extension school superiority guy.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913

    To be fair, it must suck to recruit to OSU. Your best pitch is "Technically we are a Pac-12 school"

    I don't know if he'd do that much better if he really tried.

    Dennis Erickson seemed to do okay, so it's not impossible with the right guy
    This. Stars matter, but there are so many guys picked in the NFL draft that were basically ignored when they were recruits. It’s harder to win at WSU or OSU, but the right coach can win anywhere.
    You can have winning records anywhere. But you can't consistently win Conference championships and NY6 bowls anywhere. That is reserved for about 8 programs.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club
    MisterEm said:

    haie said:

    Beavlet and recruiting. El oh El

    Extension school superiority guy.
    fuck off fisheries fag. CS 2010. Seattle campus.