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    UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 14,188
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    HHusky said:

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    For Jews, the impact of these conditions is reflected in a basic statistic found nowhere in the PBS report. Before the 1979 revolution, 80,000 to 100,000 Jews lived in Iran. Today, only 9,000 Jews live there,

    I've represented quite a few people who fled Iran in the wake of the Revolution. Most of them were Muslim. Some were Jewish. Some were Baha'i.

    But the article was about Jews living today in Iran. How'd your "no synagogues" bet work out?
    I was surprised to find there were a few. See how easy it is when you aren't a Kunt. And O'Keefed, no one is denying that other people besides Iranian Jews fled after the revolution. Did the Muslim population in Iran drop by 91% after the revolution? And besides, I never said that there were no Jews living in any majority Muslim country, that was what your ass munching pal CD said about Europe and the Jews.
    Your claim was about how Jews live in such countries. Okay, apparently.
    That's Jews living in one Muslim country. Would you care to talk about Jews living in Iraq or Saudi Arabia or Egypt or Syria? Your claim was that a majority of all Muslims are peaceful yet the one example you were able to find where Jews are able to live peacefully in a majority Muslim was Iran and that was only after their population shrunk by 91%. So name some more Majority Muslim countries O'Keefed where Jews are free to live O'Keefed.
    I thought the challenge was to find any. Suddenly the challenge is to find some more. Funny how that works.

    And I guess this means you’ll never answer my question. Imagine my surprise.

    Imagine all of our surprise that the two of you are still chasing eachother's assholes in a way that adds nothing to the discussion.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    You know welcoming the Jews like Rashida Tlaib's ancestors did during the Holocaust.

    Did you know about that O'Keefed?

    I think two weeks ago or so we celebrated, or just took a moment I think in our country to remember the Holocaust. There’s always kind of a calming feeling I tell folks when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust, and the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways, have been wiped out, and some people’s passports… all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time. And I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right, in many ways.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,230
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    Does she get a calming feeling when she thinks about slavery and all the white folks who welcomed them to the US?
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,126
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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

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    SFGbob said:

    For Jews, the impact of these conditions is reflected in a basic statistic found nowhere in the PBS report. Before the 1979 revolution, 80,000 to 100,000 Jews lived in Iran. Today, only 9,000 Jews live there,

    I've represented quite a few people who fled Iran in the wake of the Revolution. Most of them were Muslim. Some were Jewish. Some were Baha'i.

    But the article was about Jews living today in Iran. How'd your "no synagogues" bet work out?
    I was surprised to find there were a few. See how easy it is when you aren't a Kunt. And O'Keefed, no one is denying that other people besides Iranian Jews fled after the revolution. Did the Muslim population in Iran drop by 91% after the revolution? And besides, I never said that there were no Jews living in any majority Muslim country, that was what your ass munching pal CD said about Europe and the Jews.
    Your claim was about how Jews live in such countries. Okay, apparently.
    That's Jews living in one Muslim country. Would you care to talk about Jews living in Iraq or Saudi Arabia or Egypt or Syria? Your claim was that a majority of all Muslims are peaceful yet the one example you were able to find where Jews are able to live peacefully in a majority Muslim was Iran and that was only after their population shrunk by 91%. So name some more Majority Muslim countries O'Keefed where Jews are free to live O'Keefed.
    I thought the challenge was to find any. Suddenly the challenge is to find some more. Funny how that works.

    And I guess this means you’ll never answer my question. Imagine my surprise.

    Imagine all of our surprise that the two of you are still chasing eachother's assholes in a way that adds nothing to the discussion.
    Well I still think Israel was a mistake. Perhaps like Liberia, except that we actually pay attention to Israel.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    Here's a picture of the Palestinian welcoming committee coming up with ways to provide a "safe haven" for the Jews.


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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,126
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    SFGbob said:

    You know welcoming the Jews like Rashida Tlaib's ancestors did during the Holocaust.

    Did you know about that O'Keefed?

    I think two weeks ago or so we celebrated, or just took a moment I think in our country to remember the Holocaust. There’s always kind of a calming feeling I tell folks when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust, and the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways, have been wiped out, and some people’s passports… all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time. And I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right, in many ways.

    I think changing the subject was the best option available to you. Good work!
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,920
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    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    You know welcoming the Jews like Rashida Tlaib's ancestors did during the Holocaust.

    Did you know about that O'Keefed?

    I think two weeks ago or so we celebrated, or just took a moment I think in our country to remember the Holocaust. There’s always kind of a calming feeling I tell folks when I think of the Holocaust, and the tragedy of the Holocaust, and the fact that it was my ancestors — Palestinians — who lost their land and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity, their existence in many ways, have been wiped out, and some people’s passports… all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post-the Holocaust, post-the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time. And I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that, right, in many ways.

    I think changing the subject was the best option available to you. Good work!
    I'm not changing the subject. We're talking about those peaceful Muslims welcoming the Jews. Majority of Muslims are peaceful according to you, I'm just looking for examples of that peacefulness toward the Jews.
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    GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
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    Everyone is peaceful except those Islamist mother fuckers!
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,695
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    Holy fucking shit. Islam is as barbaric as Christianity was in like 700 AD.

    How anyone can argue otherwise is fucking insane

    Christians were burning Jews and heretics in the Middle Ages. Is it a math or a history deficiency?

    Still, proves the point I was making, so thanks for that.
    Have you checked the Calendar lately? We're 1200 years beyond your grasp, apparently.
    Apparently it's both math and history in Turd's case.

    Luther and Calvin didn't live 1200 years ago.
    Luther burned heretics?
    He only advised burning the homes, businesses and places of worship of Jews. And executing rabbis should they persist in teaching. He was a moderate.

    Blasphemy was a capital crime in much of Europe up to and into the modern age.
    Yawn. You and sarcasm are not friends.

    That you could possibly think Chritianity is violent in the modern world shows how warped that mind of yours is.

    But but but Crusades!

    History has shown exactly what the mooselimb religion is and continues to be. Your using them as pawns is laughable.
    But your argument is that Islam is inherently more violent. Centuries of Christian inspired, Biblically justified slaughter apparently don't count in this theological seminar.
    Please to poont out your slaughters? Wars started by mooselimbs don't count. Defending ones self is a God given right.
    Point out the Christian inspired slaughters? You must be fucking kidding! Did you ever attend school?

    Both religions have inspired people to violence, non-violence and moderated violence.
    Just drop a few on us. Do you have to look one up? You'd think you would be able to poont a few out! Oh and please make it within say the last 500 years.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,695
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    HHusky said:

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    Holy fucking shit. Islam is as barbaric as Christianity was in like 700 AD.

    How anyone can argue otherwise is fucking insane

    Christians were burning Jews and heretics in the Middle Ages. Is it a math or a history deficiency?

    Still, proves the point I was making, so thanks for that.
    Have you checked the Calendar lately? We're 1200 years beyond your grasp, apparently.
    Apparently it's both math and history in Turd's case.

    Luther and Calvin didn't live 1200 years ago.
    Luther burned heretics?
    He only advised burning the homes, businesses and places of worship of Jews. And executing rabbis should they persist in teaching. He was a moderate.

    Blasphemy was a capital crime in much of Europe up to and into the modern age.
    Yawn. You and sarcasm are not friends.

    That you could possibly think Chritianity is violent in the modern world shows how warped that mind of yours is.

    But but but Crusades!

    History has shown exactly what the mooselimb religion is and continues to be. Your using them as pawns is laughable.
    But your argument is that Islam is inherently more violent. Centuries of Christian inspired, Biblically justified slaughter apparently don't count in this theological seminar.
    Please to poont out your slaughters? Wars started by mooselimbs don't count. Defending ones self is a God given right.
    Point out the Christian inspired slaughters? You must be fucking kidding! Did you ever attend school?

    Both religions have inspired people to violence, non-violence and moderated violence.
    Which falls under the heading "Current Events?" Maybe we should aspire for relevancy.

    Though I am intrigued by the term "moderated violence." Do tell.
    I think people can fight wars without wiping out civilian populations.

    But if you want to tell people that Islam is an inherently violent religion and Christianity is not, you don't just point to "current events". Both have lots of history to live down.
    Equivocating all religions in the modern world as the same, high level argument you've got there.

    Christianity in the Western world uniquely developed an important sense of spiritual privacy, right to one's own beliefs/conscience, and the separation of church and state. "Render unto Caesar." Sure, all of those things were bought with blood over a long history. Maybe Islam just needs tim to get its reads down.
    Christians fought each other with tremendous brutality to get to whatever point Christians would argue Christianity has reached today. Islam is not yet as old as Christianity was when the Thirty Years War was waged. The separation of Church and State was an ebb and flow that grew out of some idealism and some pragmatism in Western Europe in the 1200s and 1300s--it didn't arise spontaneously out of the Bible and it sure as shit didn't happen and hasn't happened everywhere in the Christian world. (For the first 1000 - 1200 years of its existence, there were vastly more Asian Christians than European.)
    So I guess you are arguing we should just give Islam tim to get it's reads down.

    Sorry, not sorry, preventing a few abortions = / = declaring an Islamist State and beheading the infidels.

    I don't feel the need to adjust the score for historical context.
    Gee, I'd prefer everyone became actually modern and left all religious nonsense behind. But since that's not to be, it seems reasonable to point out that all religions seem to produce homicidal fanatics. At different rates at different times, but they all do it.
    And there it is in spades. The canned leftist response to any criticism of Islam or its murderous adherents.

    What should a few centuries matter?
    And there it is in spades. The canned response to any suggestion of shared humanity: "Islam makes people murderous."
    I expect Islam to hold the same respect for Human Rights specifically because of my shared humanity. You are the one arguing for grading on a curve and that victims human rights don't matter.
    You're full of shit. I expect individuals to respect Human Rights and I don't deny individuals respect because some fucking nuts justify their bloody deeds using the cloak of a religion for cover.

    The KKK is a bigtime Christian organization, or so they say.


    But if the majority of Muslims are peaceful as you claim O'Keefed, why is it there isn't a Muslim country that has a significant Jewish population? The used to, what happened? Yes there were some Christian countries that murdered Jews I've already seen your dodge O'Keefed. But not all Christian counties did and there are many majority Christian countries today that live peacefully with the Jews. Where are those Muslim countries O'Keefed?
    Israel happened. It was probably a terrible mistake. It was certainly a blow to Jewish-Muslim relations and anyone who ever opposed "social engineering" (e.g. mandatory busing, affirmative action) in the US should easily understand why.
    So creating Israel was a "terrible mistake." I love it when they drop the mask. But that doesn't explain why there are majority Christian countries that live peacefully with a minority Jewish population but there are no majority Muslim counties that do the same. If they are all so peaceful as you say O'Keefed, why not?
    It was a terrible mistake. Feel free to explain why you think it wasn't.
    We can discuss that later. Lets deal with the fucking questions you're dodging like a Kunt first.
    https://www.dw.com/en/jewish-life-in-iran-was-always-better-than-in-europe/a-38847143

    It's almost like your question contains a false premise.
    Nothing like using the German propaganda machine. Did they deny the holocaust?
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    GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
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    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

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    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Holy fucking shit. Islam is as barbaric as Christianity was in like 700 AD.

    How anyone can argue otherwise is fucking insane

    Christians were burning Jews and heretics in the Middle Ages. Is it a math or a history deficiency?

    Still, proves the point I was making, so thanks for that.
    Have you checked the Calendar lately? We're 1200 years beyond your grasp, apparently.
    Apparently it's both math and history in Turd's case.

    Luther and Calvin didn't live 1200 years ago.
    Luther burned heretics?
    He only advised burning the homes, businesses and places of worship of Jews. And executing rabbis should they persist in teaching. He was a moderate.

    Blasphemy was a capital crime in much of Europe up to and into the modern age.
    Yawn. You and sarcasm are not friends.

    That you could possibly think Chritianity is violent in the modern world shows how warped that mind of yours is.

    But but but Crusades!

    History has shown exactly what the mooselimb religion is and continues to be. Your using them as pawns is laughable.
    But your argument is that Islam is inherently more violent. Centuries of Christian inspired, Biblically justified slaughter apparently don't count in this theological seminar.
    Please to poont out your slaughters? Wars started by mooselimbs don't count. Defending ones self is a God given right.
    Point out the Christian inspired slaughters? You must be fucking kidding! Did you ever attend school?

    Both religions have inspired people to violence, non-violence and moderated violence.
    Which falls under the heading "Current Events?" Maybe we should aspire for relevancy.

    Though I am intrigued by the term "moderated violence." Do tell.
    I think people can fight wars without wiping out civilian populations.

    But if you want to tell people that Islam is an inherently violent religion and Christianity is not, you don't just point to "current events". Both have lots of history to live down.
    Equivocating all religions in the modern world as the same, high level argument you've got there.

    Christianity in the Western world uniquely developed an important sense of spiritual privacy, right to one's own beliefs/conscience, and the separation of church and state. "Render unto Caesar." Sure, all of those things were bought with blood over a long history. Maybe Islam just needs tim to get its reads down.
    Christians fought each other with tremendous brutality to get to whatever point Christians would argue Christianity has reached today. Islam is not yet as old as Christianity was when the Thirty Years War was waged. The separation of Church and State was an ebb and flow that grew out of some idealism and some pragmatism in Western Europe in the 1200s and 1300s--it didn't arise spontaneously out of the Bible and it sure as shit didn't happen and hasn't happened everywhere in the Christian world. (For the first 1000 - 1200 years of its existence, there were vastly more Asian Christians than European.)
    So I guess you are arguing we should just give Islam tim to get it's reads down.

    Sorry, not sorry, preventing a few abortions = / = declaring an Islamist State and beheading the infidels.

    I don't feel the need to adjust the score for historical context.
    Gee, I'd prefer everyone became actually modern and left all religious nonsense behind. But since that's not to be, it seems reasonable to point out that all religions seem to produce homicidal fanatics. At different rates at different times, but they all do it.
    And there it is in spades. The canned leftist response to any criticism of Islam or its murderous adherents.

    What should a few centuries matter?
    And there it is in spades. The canned response to any suggestion of shared humanity: "Islam makes people murderous."
    I expect Islam to hold the same respect for Human Rights specifically because of my shared humanity. You are the one arguing for grading on a curve and that victims human rights don't matter.
    You're full of shit. I expect individuals to respect Human Rights and I don't deny individuals respect because some fucking nuts justify their bloody deeds using the cloak of a religion for cover.

    The KKK is a bigtime Christian organization, or so they say.


    But if the majority of Muslims are peaceful as you claim O'Keefed, why is it there isn't a Muslim country that has a significant Jewish population? The used to, what happened? Yes there were some Christian countries that murdered Jews I've already seen your dodge O'Keefed. But not all Christian counties did and there are many majority Christian countries today that live peacefully with the Jews. Where are those Muslim countries O'Keefed?
    Israel happened. It was probably a terrible mistake. It was certainly a blow to Jewish-Muslim relations and anyone who ever opposed "social engineering" (e.g. mandatory busing, affirmative action) in the US should easily understand why.
    So creating Israel was a "terrible mistake." I love it when they drop the mask. But that doesn't explain why there are majority Christian countries that live peacefully with a minority Jewish population but there are no majority Muslim counties that do the same. If they are all so peaceful as you say O'Keefed, why not?
    It was a terrible mistake. Feel free to explain why you think it wasn't.
    We can discuss that later. Lets deal with the fucking questions you're dodging like a Kunt first.
    https://www.dw.com/en/jewish-life-in-iran-was-always-better-than-in-europe/a-38847143

    It's almost like your question contains a false premise.
    Nothing like using the German propaganda machine. Did they deny the holocaust?
    Retarded.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,695
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    If your religion of peace calls for you to conquer the world impose your religions law and system of government and kill all those who will not convert or any you don't like because of race, sexual orientation etc. I'd say it might be violent and a cult.

    They have proven it since the Mooselimb religion was created.
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    GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
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    Sledog said:

    If your religion of peace calls for you to conquer the world impose your religions law and system of government and kill all those who will not convert or any you don't like because of race, sexual orientation etc. I'd say it might be violent and a cult.

    They have proven it since the Mooselimb religion was created.

    dude you went and doubled down on retard
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    GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
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    What does Islam mean?
    Islam is an Arabic word which means "surrender, submission, commitment and peace." Thus, Islam can be defined as a path to attain complete peace through voluntary submission to the divine will.

    THE FUCKING BOOGEYMAN gonna surrender submit and commit to peace fuck me!!!!!
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,695
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    Gwad said:

    Sledog said:

    If your religion of peace calls for you to conquer the world impose your religions law and system of government and kill all those who will not convert or any you don't like because of race, sexual orientation etc. I'd say it might be violent and a cult.

    They have proven it since the Mooselimb religion was created.

    dude you went and doubled down on retard
    I'll pay for you bicycle tour through Muli land!
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    Gwad said:

    What does Islam mean?
    Islam is an Arabic word which means "surrender, submission, commitment and peace." Thus, Islam can be defined as a path to attain complete peace through voluntary submission to the divine will.

    THE FUCKING BOOGEYMAN gonna surrender submit and commit to peace fuck me!!!!!

    Shut the fuck up
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    GwadGwad Member Posts: 2,855
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    Gwad said:

    What does Islam mean?
    Islam is an Arabic word which means "surrender, submission, commitment and peace." Thus, Islam can be defined as a path to attain complete peace through voluntary submission to the divine will.

    THE FUCKING BOOGEYMAN gonna surrender submit and commit to peace fuck me!!!!!

    Shut the fuck up
    Imagine caring about this.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,230
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    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    What does Islam mean?
    Islam is an Arabic word which means "surrender, submission, commitment and peace." Thus, Islam can be defined as a path to attain complete peace through voluntary submission to the divine will.

    THE FUCKING BOOGEYMAN gonna surrender submit and commit to peace fuck me!!!!!

    Shut the fuck up
    Imagine caring about this.
    Imagine spreading hate against gays and women
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