Moreover, while the American unemployment rate is historically low, this antiquated index fails to account for individuals who are not employed but also not looking for work. Since 2000, for every working-age American male who is unemployed and looking for work, there are another three men who are “idle,” not looking for work. On average “idle Americans” spend 2,000 hours per year in front of a screen — the equivalent of a full time job. Nearly half of this population takes daily pain medication and three-fifths receives disability benefits, providing a potentially long-term alternative to paid employment. Most telling, however, is that these individuals report very low levels of emotional well-being, and say they derive little meaning from their daily activities. With a waning sense of identity and purpose, they frequently fall victim to drug addiction and suicide.
People need work and they need to feel they have a sense of community and family. One of the worst things you can do to people is take away their need to work. The number of able-bodied males who aren't in the labor force and aren't looking for work are at an all time high. The decline of the family and the welfare state have removed the desire and the need to work for many. This is why ideas like a guaranteed income are insane.
Wait, I thought Trump made America great again and everyone that wanted jobs had them.
Dumbest mother fucker I've ever encountered on a message board. And this is the very same dipshit who's shtick is to claim the other person has poor reading comprehension.
Are you knew hear? Maybe you should lurk around some and PM @IrishDawg22
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Moreover, while the American unemployment rate is historically low, this antiquated index fails to account for individuals who are not employed but also not looking for work. Since 2000, for every working-age American male who is unemployed and looking for work, there are another three men who are “idle,” not looking for work. On average “idle Americans” spend 2,000 hours per year in front of a screen — the equivalent of a full time job. Nearly half of this population takes daily pain medication and three-fifths receives disability benefits, providing a potentially long-term alternative to paid employment. Most telling, however, is that these individuals report very low levels of emotional well-being, and say they derive little meaning from their daily activities. With a waning sense of identity and purpose, they frequently fall victim to drug addiction and suicide.
People need work and they need to feel they have a sense of community and family. One of the worst things you can do to people is take away their need to work. The number of able-bodied males who aren't in the labor force and aren't looking for work are at an all time high. The decline of the family and the welfare state have removed the desire and the need to work for many. This is why ideas like a guaranteed income are insane.
Bullshit blaming it on the welfare state which has been hollowed out since Reagan took office. Deindustrializtion has destroyed the good paying, often union jobs available to those with HS educations. It’s a result of pro-corporate/anti-labor economic ideology adopted by both parties.
REAGAN!!!1!!!
Hollowed out. OK!
Jobs are available for the people you describe. But it’s a lot easier to become a victim and say there are no good paying jobs for those with a high school education.
Moreover, while the American unemployment rate is historically low, this antiquated index fails to account for individuals who are not employed but also not looking for work. Since 2000, for every working-age American male who is unemployed and looking for work, there are another three men who are “idle,” not looking for work. On average “idle Americans” spend 2,000 hours per year in front of a screen — the equivalent of a full time job. Nearly half of this population takes daily pain medication and three-fifths receives disability benefits, providing a potentially long-term alternative to paid employment. Most telling, however, is that these individuals report very low levels of emotional well-being, and say they derive little meaning from their daily activities. With a waning sense of identity and purpose, they frequently fall victim to drug addiction and suicide.
People need work and they need to feel they have a sense of community and family. One of the worst things you can do to people is take away their need to work. The number of able-bodied males who aren't in the labor force and aren't looking for work are at an all time high. The decline of the family and the welfare state have removed the desire and the need to work for many. This is why ideas like a guaranteed income are insane.
Which is why the unemployment rate is such an overrated stat when there is a GOP president.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Easier to not work, and more avenues for distraction then ever before. Video games, movies, the internet. As the article stated they are spending thousands of hours in front of a screen, they just aren't working.
Moreover, while the American unemployment rate is historically low, this antiquated index fails to account for individuals who are not employed but also not looking for work. Since 2000, for every working-age American male who is unemployed and looking for work, there are another three men who are “idle,” not looking for work. On average “idle Americans” spend 2,000 hours per year in front of a screen — the equivalent of a full time job. Nearly half of this population takes daily pain medication and three-fifths receives disability benefits, providing a potentially long-term alternative to paid employment. Most telling, however, is that these individuals report very low levels of emotional well-being, and say they derive little meaning from their daily activities. With a waning sense of identity and purpose, they frequently fall victim to drug addiction and suicide.
People need work and they need to feel they have a sense of community and family. One of the worst things you can do to people is take away their need to work. The number of able-bodied males who aren't in the labor force and aren't looking for work are at an all time high. The decline of the family and the welfare state have removed the desire and the need to work for many. This is why ideas like a guaranteed income are insane.
Bullshit blaming it on the welfare state which has been hollowed out since Reagan took office. Deindustrializtion has destroyed the good paying, often union jobs available to those with HS educations. It’s a result of pro-corporate/anti-labor economic ideology adopted by both parties.
REAGAN!!!1!!!
Hollowed out. OK!
Jobs are available for the people you describe. But it’s a lot easier to become a victim and say there are no good paying jobs for those with a high school education.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Do think that importing millions of low skilled legal and illegal immigrants has any negative impact on the wages being paid in low skill jobs?
Truck driving isn't exactly a high skill job and right now you have companies begging for truck drivers. Will you get rich driving a truck? No, but you can earn a middle class income especially when you combine that income with the income of working spouse. You definitely won't be living in poverty.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Do think that importing millions of low skilled legal and illegal immigrants has any negative impact on the wages being paid in low skill jobs?
Truck driving isn't exactly a high skill job and right now you have companies begging for truck drivers. Will you get rich driving a truck? No, but you can earn a middle class income especially when you combine that income with the income of working spouse. You definitely won't be living in poverty.
Then trucking companies have a healthy incentive to establish training programs for idle and able bodied people. Maybe they’ve already started.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Take this shit to the 'Shoppe where it belongs!!!!
As long as there are people like you who make excuses for deadbeats, and who create programs that allow the parasites to feed themselves without working you're going to have able bodied people who refuse to work.
Point still stands. You can get a job driving a truck or some similar low skilled job and you will not be living in poverty. To claim that the choice is between working and idle poverty is false.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Do think that importing millions of low skilled legal and illegal immigrants has any negative impact on the wages being paid in low skill jobs?
Truck driving isn't exactly a high skill job and right now you have companies begging for truck drivers. Will you get rich driving a truck? No, but you can earn a middle class income especially when you combine that income with the income of working spouse. You definitely won't be living in poverty.
Then trucking companies have a healthy incentive to establish training programs for idle and able bodied people. Maybe they’ve already started.
As long as there are people like you who make excuses for deadbeats, and who create programs that allow the parasites to feed themselves without working you're going to have able bodied people who refuse to work.
Point still stands. You can get a job driving a truck or some similar low skilled job and you will not be living in poverty. To claim that
You just said truck driving can make you middle class. Most people aren’t sitting in idle poverty in lieu of working to earn $70-80k.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Do think that importing millions of low skilled legal and illegal immigrants has any negative impact on the wages being paid in low skill jobs?
Truck driving isn't exactly a high skill job and right now you have companies begging for truck drivers. Will you get rich driving a truck? No, but you can earn a middle class income especially when you combine that income with the income of working spouse. You definitely won't be living in poverty.
Then trucking companies have a healthy incentive to establish training programs for idle and able bodied people. Maybe they’ve already started.
As long as there are people like you who make excuses for deadbeats, and who create programs that allow the parasites to feed themselves without working you're going to have able bodied people who refuse to work.
Point still stands. You can get a job driving a truck or some similar low skilled job and you will not be living in poverty. To claim that
You just said truck driving can make you middle class. Most people aren’t sitting in idle poverty in lieu of working to earn $70-80k.
There are many people who just don't want to work. They don't feel the need because they can survive just fine on disability and the public teat. Why work when you can smoke dope and play video games all day and you still are able to feed yourself.
And I said that truck driving job along with a spouse with a similarly skilled job will provide for a middle class income. The choice isn't between working and living in poverty and not working and living in poverty. To claim that these people would still be living in poverty even if they were working is bullshit.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Do think that importing millions of low skilled legal and illegal immigrants has any negative impact on the wages being paid in low skill jobs?
Truck driving isn't exactly a high skill job and right now you have companies begging for truck drivers. Will you get rich driving a truck? No, but you can earn a middle class income especially when you combine that income with the income of working spouse. You definitely won't be living in poverty.
Then trucking companies have a healthy incentive to establish training programs for idle and able bodied people. Maybe they’ve already started.
As long as there are people like you who make excuses for deadbeats, and who create programs that allow the parasites to feed themselves without working you're going to have able bodied people who refuse to work.
Point still stands. You can get a job driving a truck or some similar low skilled job and you will not be living in poverty. To claim that
You just said truck driving can make you middle class. Most people aren’t sitting in idle poverty in lieu of working to earn $70-80k.
There are many people who just don't want to work. They don't feel the need because they can survive just fine on disability and the public teat. Why work when you can smoke dope and play video games all day and you still are able to feed yourself.
And I said that truck driving job along with a spouse with a similarly skilled job will provide for a middle class income. The choice isn't between working and living in poverty and not working and living in poverty. To claim that these people would still be living in poverty even if they were working is bullshit.
Lots of working people live in poverty. You must be putting us on with this act of yours.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Do think that importing millions of low skilled legal and illegal immigrants has any negative impact on the wages being paid in low skill jobs?
Truck driving isn't exactly a high skill job and right now you have companies begging for truck drivers. Will you get rich driving a truck? No, but you can earn a middle class income especially when you combine that income with the income of working spouse. You definitely won't be living in poverty.
Then trucking companies have a healthy incentive to establish training programs for idle and able bodied people. Maybe they’ve already started.
As long as there are people like you who make excuses for deadbeats, and who create programs that allow the parasites to feed themselves without working you're going to have able bodied people who refuse to work.
Point still stands. You can get a job driving a truck or some similar low skilled job and you will not be living in poverty. To claim that
You just said truck driving can make you middle class. Most people aren’t sitting in idle poverty in lieu of working to earn $70-80k.
There are many people who just don't want to work. They don't feel the need because they can survive just fine on disability and the public teat. Why work when you can smoke dope and play video games all day and you still are able to feed yourself.
And I said that truck driving job along with a spouse with a similarly skilled job will provide for a middle class income. The choice isn't between working and living in poverty and not working and living in poverty. To claim that these people would still be living in poverty even if they were working is bullshit.
Lots of working people live in poverty. You must be putting us on with this act of yours.
Yeah, and most likely because they've had kids out of wedlock. Very easy to not live in poverty in America. Don't drop out of high school. Don't have kids unless you're married, once you're married stay married and get a job and keep it and don't quit it until you find another job. Don't abuse drugs and alcohol and statistically the likelihood that you'll be living in poverty in America is very small.
What impact on wages does your support for the importation of millions of illegal and legal immigrants have O'Keefed?
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Do think that importing millions of low skilled legal and illegal immigrants has any negative impact on the wages being paid in low skill jobs?
Truck driving isn't exactly a high skill job and right now you have companies begging for truck drivers. Will you get rich driving a truck? No, but you can earn a middle class income especially when you combine that income with the income of working spouse. You definitely won't be living in poverty.
Then trucking companies have a healthy incentive to establish training programs for idle and able bodied people. Maybe they’ve already started.
As long as there are people like you who make excuses for deadbeats, and who create programs that allow the parasites to feed themselves without working you're going to have able bodied people who refuse to work.
Point still stands. You can get a job driving a truck or some similar low skilled job and you will not be living in poverty. To claim that
You just said truck driving can make you middle class. Most people aren’t sitting in idle poverty in lieu of working to earn $70-80k.
There are many people who just don't want to work. They don't feel the need because they can survive just fine on disability and the public teat. Why work when you can smoke dope and play video games all day and you still are able to feed yourself.
And I said that truck driving job along with a spouse with a similarly skilled job will provide for a middle class income. The choice isn't between working and living in poverty and not working and living in poverty. To claim that these people would still be living in poverty even if they were working is bullshit.
Lots of working people live in poverty. You must be putting us on with this act of yours.
Yeah, and most likely because they've had kids out of wedlock. Very easy to not live in poverty in America. Don't drop out of high school. Don't have kids unless you're married, once you're married stay married and get a job and keep it and don't quit it until you find another job. Don't abuse drugs and alcohol and statistically the likelihood that you'll be living in poverty in America is very small.
What impact on wages does your support for the importation of millions of illegal and legal immigrants have O'Keefed?
Run and hide.
But your claim was that good paying positions are going begging because of the dole. Run and hide indeed.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Do think that importing millions of low skilled legal and illegal immigrants has any negative impact on the wages being paid in low skill jobs?
Truck driving isn't exactly a high skill job and right now you have companies begging for truck drivers. Will you get rich driving a truck? No, but you can earn a middle class income especially when you combine that income with the income of working spouse. You definitely won't be living in poverty.
Then trucking companies have a healthy incentive to establish training programs for idle and able bodied people. Maybe they’ve already started.
As long as there are people like you who make excuses for deadbeats, and who create programs that allow the parasites to feed themselves without working you're going to have able bodied people who refuse to work.
Point still stands. You can get a job driving a truck or some similar low skilled job and you will not be living in poverty. To claim that
You just said truck driving can make you middle class. Most people aren’t sitting in idle poverty in lieu of working to earn $70-80k.
There are many people who just don't want to work. They don't feel the need because they can survive just fine on disability and the public teat. Why work when you can smoke dope and play video games all day and you still are able to feed yourself.
And I said that truck driving job along with a spouse with a similarly skilled job will provide for a middle class income. The choice isn't between working and living in poverty and not working and living in poverty. To claim that these people would still be living in poverty even if they were working is bullshit.
Lots of working people live in poverty. You must be putting us on with this act of yours.
Yeah, and most likely because they've had kids out of wedlock. Very easy to not live in poverty in America. Don't drop out of high school. Don't have kids unless you're married, once you're married stay married and get a job and keep it and don't quit it until you find another job. Don't abuse drugs and alcohol and statistically the likelihood that you'll be living in poverty in America is very small.
What impact on wages does your support for the importation of millions of illegal and legal immigrants have O'Keefed?
Run and hide.
But your claim was that good paying positions are going begging because of the dole. Run and hide indeed.
Not quite what I said my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend. And of course you dodged the question I put you just like the fucking Kunt you've always been.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Do think that importing millions of low skilled legal and illegal immigrants has any negative impact on the wages being paid in low skill jobs?
Truck driving isn't exactly a high skill job and right now you have companies begging for truck drivers. Will you get rich driving a truck? No, but you can earn a middle class income especially when you combine that income with the income of working spouse. You definitely won't be living in poverty.
Then trucking companies have a healthy incentive to establish training programs for idle and able bodied people. Maybe they’ve already started.
As long as there are people like you who make excuses for deadbeats, and who create programs that allow the parasites to feed themselves without working you're going to have able bodied people who refuse to work.
Point still stands. You can get a job driving a truck or some similar low skilled job and you will not be living in poverty. To claim that
You just said truck driving can make you middle class. Most people aren’t sitting in idle poverty in lieu of working to earn $70-80k.
There are many people who just don't want to work. They don't feel the need because they can survive just fine on disability and the public teat. Why work when you can smoke dope and play video games all day and you still are able to feed yourself.
And I said that truck driving job along with a spouse with a similarly skilled job will provide for a middle class income. The choice isn't between working and living in poverty and not working and living in poverty. To claim that these people would still be living in poverty even if they were working is bullshit.
Lots of working people live in poverty. You must be putting us on with this act of yours.
Yeah, and most likely because they've had kids out of wedlock. Very easy to not live in poverty in America. Don't drop out of high school. Don't have kids unless you're married, once you're married stay married and get a job and keep it and don't quit it until you find another job. Don't abuse drugs and alcohol and statistically the likelihood that you'll be living in poverty in America is very small.
What impact on wages does your support for the importation of millions of illegal and legal immigrants have O'Keefed?
Run and hide.
But your claim was that good paying positions are going begging because of the dole. Run and hide indeed.
Not quite what I said my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend. And of course you dodged the question I put you just like the fucking Kunt you've always been.
I’m not criticizing. I don’t think you had any better options than changing the subject.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Take this shit to the 'Shoppe where it belongs!!!!
What goes around comes around. People bring their Tug shit into my Shoppe all the tim.
I think it's hard to argue that any kind of a soft-landing will lead to more people "opting out" of working. If it's work or starve, or at least lead a miserable existence, it's amazing how much that can do inspire people to get off their asses.
If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Back in the 1960's you could be a HS drop out and shovel coal into a furnace at a steel mill in Indiana or PA and buy a house and have wife that didn't work with 2 kids. That kind of existence just isn't possible anymore.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
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If someone has a fundamental health (mental or physical) problem that legitimately keeps them from working, that's one thing ... if it's bona fide.
Otherwise, while it's probably true that there are fewer good paying labor jerbs available (I don't actually know that to be true but it sounds good), the fact that it's easier to not work today than it was 50 years ago is probably not helping anything.
Fun Fact: US Steel Production today is more than in 1970, yet in that year the industry employed 600,000 and today around 130,000. Robots + much of the steel today is recycled from old building, rather than coming as raw ore on the Edmond Fitzgerald from Lake Superior.
If you give folks the option between working poverty and idle poverty, they are usually going to chose the latter.
Truck driving isn't exactly a high skill job and right now you have companies begging for truck drivers. Will you get rich driving a truck? No, but you can earn a middle class income especially when you combine that income with the income of working spouse. You definitely won't be living in poverty.
Point still stands. You can get a job driving a truck or some similar low skilled job and you will not be living in poverty. To claim that the choice is between working and idle poverty is false.
And I said that truck driving job along with a spouse with a similarly skilled job will provide for a middle class income. The choice isn't between working and living in poverty and not working and living in poverty. To claim that these people would still be living in poverty even if they were working is bullshit.
What impact on wages does your support for the importation of millions of illegal and legal immigrants have O'Keefed?
Run and hide.