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Cooper McDonald, 2020 3* LB, Justin (Northwest), TX (Committed)

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  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054
    Will reiterate what I said in the other thread. Plays like Tevis, but not exactly the athleticism I'd be looking for at this point. Hopefully just a Herbig hedge or something. Not a huge fan
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    He looks huge.

    He's not coming here but he's going to be good.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735

    Will reiterate what I said in the other thread. Plays like Tevis, but not exactly the athleticism I'd be looking for at this point. Hopefully just a Herbig hedge or something. Not a huge fan

    Tevis sucked. This kid is way better.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Will reiterate what I said in the other thread. Plays like Tevis, but not exactly the athleticism I'd be looking for at this point. Hopefully just a Herbig hedge or something. Not a huge fan

    Tevis sucked. This kid is way better.
    I don't think Tevis sucked but this kid is definitely better.
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330
    A 12 second 100m is good right?

    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=10944224

    He seems to be good at throwing things though
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    A 12 second 100m is good right?

    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=10944224

    He seems to be good at throwing things though

    They found a way to make Jayveon Sunday look fast!
  • FKA_Mousecop
    FKA_Mousecop Member Posts: 2,054

    A 12 second 100m is good right?

    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=10944224

    He seems to be good at throwing things though

    At least he wasn't last, he finished 22nd out of 24 competitors, including one who DNF'd.
  • Neighbor2972
    Neighbor2972 Member Posts: 4,330

    A 12 second 100m is good right?

    https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=10944224

    He seems to be good at throwing things though

    Hey he throws better than Jake
  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425

    Will reiterate what I said in the other thread. Plays like Tevis, but not exactly the athleticism I'd be looking for at this point. Hopefully just a Herbig hedge or something. Not a huge fan

    Tevis sucked. This kid is way better.
    I don't think Tevis sucked but this kid is definitely better.
    Double disagree.
  • TacoSoup
    TacoSoup Member Posts: 148
    This looked like a Tracking Football-type offer but idk with that 100m time
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Looks like the kind of player that goes to Utah or TCU and then you look up in 3-4 years as an upper classman and is a legit player

    One thing to keep in mind with DFW area football is that the FW side of the equation is definitely a step down from Dallas, it’s suburbs, and anywhere in the Arlington & Mid-Cities areas
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    Will reiterate what I said in the other thread. Plays like Tevis, but not exactly the athleticism I'd be looking for at this point. Hopefully just a Herbig hedge or something. Not a huge fan

    Tevis sucked. This kid is way better.
    I don't think Tevis sucked but this kid is definitely better.
    Double disagree.
    Tevis was fine, his problem was coaches moved him inside too late. Should have kept him outside. Probably would have gotten drafted this year.
  • NorwegianHusky
    NorwegianHusky Member Posts: 3,425
    FirePete said:

    Will reiterate what I said in the other thread. Plays like Tevis, but not exactly the athleticism I'd be looking for at this point. Hopefully just a Herbig hedge or something. Not a huge fan

    Tevis sucked. This kid is way better.
    I don't think Tevis sucked but this kid is definitely better.
    Double disagree.
    Tevis was fine, his problem was coaches moved him inside too late. Should have kept him outside. Probably would have gotten drafted this year.
    Athletes like Tevis don't generally get drafted even if they have crazy production.
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    edited May 2019
    FirePete said:

    Will reiterate what I said in the other thread. Plays like Tevis, but not exactly the athleticism I'd be looking for at this point. Hopefully just a Herbig hedge or something. Not a huge fan

    Tevis sucked. This kid is way better.
    I don't think Tevis sucked but this kid is definitely better.
    Double disagree.
    Tevis was fine, his problem was coaches moved him inside too late. Should have kept him outside. Probably would have gotten drafted this year.
    It's not "fine" for anybody to touch the fucking field for this team unless he's a really good player who makes plays. Tevis was not that kinda guy.
  • GOAT
    GOAT Member Posts: 177
    I like Drew Fowler better than this kid
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    FirePete said:

    Will reiterate what I said in the other thread. Plays like Tevis, but not exactly the athleticism I'd be looking for at this point. Hopefully just a Herbig hedge or something. Not a huge fan

    Tevis sucked. This kid is way better.
    I don't think Tevis sucked but this kid is definitely better.
    Double disagree.
    Tevis was fine, his problem was coaches moved him inside too late. Should have kept him outside. Probably would have gotten drafted this year.
    It's not "fine" for anybody to touch the fucking field for this team unless he's a really good player who makes plays. Tevis was not that kinda guy.
    Dude, tevis with a redshirt and only focusing on outside he would have been a stud
  • Ballz
    Ballz Member Posts: 4,735
    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    Will reiterate what I said in the other thread. Plays like Tevis, but not exactly the athleticism I'd be looking for at this point. Hopefully just a Herbig hedge or something. Not a huge fan

    Tevis sucked. This kid is way better.
    I don't think Tevis sucked but this kid is definitely better.
    Double disagree.
    Tevis was fine, his problem was coaches moved him inside too late. Should have kept him outside. Probably would have gotten drafted this year.
    It's not "fine" for anybody to touch the fucking field for this team unless he's a really good player who makes plays. Tevis was not that kinda guy.
    Dude, tevis with a redshirt and only focusing on outside he would have been a stud
    No he wouldn't have. He's white and stiff and slow.
  • LaMichael_Corleone
    LaMichael_Corleone Member Posts: 1,316
    edited May 2019
    It’s hilarious that they actually sat around a room after the Sav’ell stuff and reasonably thought that offering this kid was the next best possible move to make in their plan of action.
  • Penace
    Penace Member Posts: 496
    Its unconscionable the direction we have chosen to go with recruiting.
    What pisses me off the most, and it has been mentioned, is that we are shunning kids that could benefit the most from the okg bullshit. Take a fucking chance on a kid and let him be a part of something positive for perhaps the first time in his fucking life. The local perception is a total disaster and based off the offers tendered in the last week it's not going to change.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,072
    Penace said:

    Its unconscionable the direction we have chosen to go with recruiting.
    What pisses me off the most, and it has been mentioned, is that we are shunning kids that could benefit the most from the okg bullshit. Take a fucking chance on a kid and let him be a part of something positive for perhaps the first time in his fucking life. The local perception is a total disaster and based off the offers tendered in the last week it's not going to change.

    This.

    I hit on this exact thing in DJ’s thread months ago with the emphasis being that dickman needs to live his B4Lyfe shit if he believe it. Give the opportunity to the kids where B4L will make the biggest difference from a PERSONAL and athletic perspective.

    Not just the kids who are already on the up and up regardless of b4L (for the most part).

    How can Pete be so blind to the fact that some of those possible tweeners (for what he seeks) seriously bought into the b4l, and it had a profound impact on their lives and who they are today (thinking of our CFP team)- some in the nfl and some having grown in other aspects of life as well.
  • Swaye
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    This place is always more fun when we suck.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,072

    Penace said:

    Its unconscionable the direction we have chosen to go with recruiting.
    What pisses me off the most, and it has been mentioned, is that we are shunning kids that could benefit the most from the okg bullshit. Take a fucking chance on a kid and let him be a part of something positive for perhaps the first time in his fucking life. The local perception is a total disaster and based off the offers tendered in the last week it's not going to change.

    What kids have been shunned that could benefit from BFL/OKG? Name them. As far as I can tell, there are like four local guys who (in the case of a few of them, inexplicably) haven't received offers. Who else?

    Gee's dad, and the fact that the staff is hail-marying on McMillan and Wilson (better prospects), makes this one completely excusable. If I had to guess, they played him like any other Plan B (awesome, but try hitting the home run first) prospect, and Dad didn't take kindly to this, burning the bridge in the process.
    Julian Simon I don't get, but I recognize I have no idea what the whole story is, and he's still a year from worrying about anyway.
    DJ Rogers, sounds like there's off the field issues. Nobody will come right out and say what that's all about.
    Sounds like the Latu brothers will probably be offered once their grades are trustworthy.
    Seems like there's one other kid? Can't remember.

    So what's the other grievance?

    The offered Smalls when he was like 12. They offered JT when he was a zygote. They've offered pretty much every other local kid not listed above (I'm sure I forget one or two, but whatever). They've offered pretty much every four and five-star kid in the west.

    Who exactly are they not giving a chance to be part of something positive? We're talking about DJ Rogers, Gee Scott, and Peter Latu. Those are the three guys in-state that they've passed up so far to offer kids from Texas or whatever (possibly as part of long term bridge-building goals).

    I'm not trying to defend the recruiting effort completely, as some of the misses that have happened recently suck, but bashing the "direction [they] have chosen to go with recruiting" implies that it's not the effort/hit rate/marketing that's bad but rather the overall direction (read: "offers"). But they're offering all the kids (save three or four locals that you'd want them to, out of a 90 kid class) that you'd want them to, so what would you have them do differently on that front? They're TRYING to give kids a chance at that sweet sweet OKG bullshit, it's just that, this spring for various reasons, said kids aren't going for it. That's a totally different problem from the one you're upset about.
    Not one was “shunned” more than you can look at some of the regional talent that we should have offered and make assumptions (dangerous I know) as to why these kids weren’t offered. You may have been speaking strictly local with my answer being regional...

    To your point, if we only knew the rest of the story we might not all be so fucking antsy.


  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744

    Penace said:

    Its unconscionable the direction we have chosen to go with recruiting.
    What pisses me off the most, and it has been mentioned, is that we are shunning kids that could benefit the most from the okg bullshit. Take a fucking chance on a kid and let him be a part of something positive for perhaps the first time in his fucking life. The local perception is a total disaster and based off the offers tendered in the last week it's not going to change.

    What kids have been shunned that could benefit from BFL/OKG? Name them. As far as I can tell, there are like four local guys who (in the case of a few of them, inexplicably) haven't received offers. Who else?

    Gee's dad, and the fact that the staff is hail-marying on McMillan and Wilson (better prospects), makes this one completely excusable. If I had to guess, they played him like any other Plan B (awesome, but try hitting the home run first) prospect, and Dad didn't take kindly to this, burning the bridge in the process.
    Julian Simon I don't get, but I recognize I have no idea what the whole story is, and he's still a year from worrying about anyway.
    DJ Rogers, sounds like there's off the field issues. Nobody will come right out and say what that's all about.
    Sounds like the Latu brothers will probably be offered once their grades are trustworthy.
    Seems like there's one other kid? Can't remember.

    So what's the other grievance?

    The offered Smalls when he was like 12. They offered JT when he was a zygote. They've offered pretty much every other local kid not listed above (I'm sure I forget one or two, but whatever). They've offered pretty much every four and five-star kid in the west.

    Who exactly are they not giving a chance to be part of something positive? We're talking about DJ Rogers, Gee Scott, and Peter Latu. Those are the three guys in-state that they've passed up so far to offer kids from Texas or whatever (possibly as part of long term bridge-building goals).

    I'm not trying to defend the recruiting effort completely, as some of the misses that have happened recently suck, but bashing the "direction [they] have chosen to go with recruiting" implies that it's not the effort/hit rate/marketing that's bad but rather the overall direction (read: "offers"). But they're offering all the kids (save three or four locals that you'd want them to, out of a 90 kid class) that you'd want them to, so what would you have them do differently on that front? They're TRYING to give kids a chance at that sweet sweet OKG bullshit, it's just that, this spring for various reasons, said kids aren't going for it. That's a totally different problem from the one you're upset about.
    You can always come up with a reason not to offer a kid if you've decided not to. Even so- some of those are real flimsy excuses.

    What you miss when you try to zero in on each situation individually are the larger trends.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696

    Penace said:

    Its unconscionable the direction we have chosen to go with recruiting.
    What pisses me off the most, and it has been mentioned, is that we are shunning kids that could benefit the most from the okg bullshit. Take a fucking chance on a kid and let him be a part of something positive for perhaps the first time in his fucking life. The local perception is a total disaster and based off the offers tendered in the last week it's not going to change.

    What kids have been shunned that could benefit from BFL/OKG? Name them. As far as I can tell, there are like four local guys who (in the case of a few of them, inexplicably) haven't received offers. Who else?

    Gee's dad, and the fact that the staff is hail-marying on McMillan and Wilson (better prospects), makes this one completely excusable. If I had to guess, they played him like any other Plan B (awesome, but try hitting the home run first) prospect, and Dad didn't take kindly to this, burning the bridge in the process.
    Julian Simon I don't get, but I recognize I have no idea what the whole story is, and he's still a year from worrying about anyway.
    DJ Rogers, sounds like there's off the field issues. Nobody will come right out and say what that's all about.
    Sounds like the Latu brothers will probably be offered once their grades are trustworthy.
    Seems like there's one other kid? Can't remember.

    So what's the other grievance?

    The offered Smalls when he was like 12. They offered JT when he was a zygote. They've offered pretty much every other local kid not listed above (I'm sure I forget one or two, but whatever). They've offered pretty much every four and five-star kid in the west.

    Who exactly are they not giving a chance to be part of something positive? We're talking about DJ Rogers, Gee Scott, and Peter Latu. Those are the three guys in-state that they've passed up so far to offer kids from Texas or whatever (possibly as part of long term bridge-building goals).

    I'm not trying to defend the recruiting effort completely, as some of the misses that have happened recently suck, but bashing the "direction [they] have chosen to go with recruiting" implies that it's not the effort/hit rate/marketing that's bad but rather the overall direction (read: "offers"). But they're offering all the kids (save three or four locals that you'd want them to, out of a 90 kid class) that you'd want them to, so what would you have them do differently on that front? They're TRYING to give kids a chance at that sweet sweet OKG bullshit, it's just that, this spring for various reasons, said kids aren't going for it. That's a totally different problem from the one you're upset about.
    You can always come up with a reason not to offer a kid if you've decided not to. Even so- some of those are real flimsy excuses.

    What you miss when you try to zero in on each situation individually are the larger trends.
    What larger trends? There aren't any, because the sample sizes everyone are freaking out over are insanely tiny. "They've offered 70 kids, will probably offer 30 more, but they haven't offered these five. This is a disturbing trend." Any statistician would laugh at that.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,072
  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,072

    Hey @CallMeBigErn go fuck yourself


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