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Cooper McDonald, 2020 3* LB, Justin (Northwest), TX (Committed)

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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    So is this kid any good? 10 pages nothing on the kid
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    chuck said:

    FremontTroll said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    This seems like a good time to remind everyone that no one on this bored has the slightest idea of how to evaluate high school football film

    @chuck does. No idea if he has weighed in here.
    Thanks for remembering the times I was right Fremonttroll. The only ILB recruits I can remember excited about under this staff were Kaho and Heimuli, while I was at least optimistic if not excited about Calvert and Tupetala (sp?).

    I really dont get it with this guy. Good prospects are exceptional for their position in at least one area. At ILB it either needs to be pure speed/explosiveness (BBK, Marquis Cooper, Heimuli) or an exceptional combo of size and speed (Mason Foster, Donald Butler). Size alone is worthless (see Sirmon, Manu).

    Small guys with speed have a way better chance of working out than mediocre athletes that are already big enough. That's the category this guy fits. I'm amazed the staff doesn't get this.
    Scouting report from last page.
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  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    Swaye said:

    BeerThirty said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    This seems like a good time to remind everyone that no one on this bored has the slightest idea of how to evaluate high school football film

    Like I said, I trust the coaches. They like this kid. Good enough for me. I don't give two shits that his other offers are from midlevel big 12 schools
    I'm just not sure how we can say "I trust the corches" when we have arrived at year 6 with Manu and Wellington as our starting ILBs. Perhaps we shouldn't be trusting the coaches with this position group. They haven't done fuckall to earn it.
    Wellington has all the physical talent, the kid just can't put it together upstairs. We are missing Beavers, Eifler, and Kaho would probably be getting significant playing time. Shit happens. Linebacker core has been depleted due to various reasons. It doesn't mean the coaches aren't good at evaluating talent. It is beyond stupid that people keep bringing up Manu when talking about this kid.
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  • BeerThirty
    BeerThirty Member Posts: 2,465
    how is this a doogman post? It is basic fact. Would we be better with Beavers over Manu? Yes. Would we be better with Eifler? Yes. Would we be better with Kaho? Yes. Those are all talented players that for one reason or another are no longer with the program. My points are purely in regards to evaluating talent. There were fuck ups by coaches in other areas but you would have to be really fucked up on peyote to say they weren't talented.

    I'm not giving the coaches a pass for our LB core right now. My arguments in this thread have been people writing this kid off before he even steps foot on campus. Many are comparing him to Manu which is just plain stupid. He is way more athletic than Manu, hell he looks like he would be a step up as a HS SR then what we have with Manu. The whole "Wellington and Manu suck so our coaches suck" argument is stupid. Wellington can't think and run at the same time and Manu is just Manu.
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  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,728 Standard Supporter
    BeerThirty said:

    Swaye said:

    BeerThirty said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    This seems like a good time to remind everyone that no one on this bored has the slightest idea of how to evaluate high school football film

    Like I said, I trust the coaches. They like this kid. Good enough for me. I don't give two shits that his other offers are from midlevel big 12 schools
    I'm just not sure how we can say "I trust the corches" when we have arrived at year 6 with Manu and Wellington as our starting ILBs. Perhaps we shouldn't be trusting the coaches with this position group. They haven't done fuckall to earn it.
    Wellington has all the physical talent, the kid just can't put it together upstairs. We are missing Beavers, Eifler, and Kaho would probably be getting significant playing time. Shit happens. Linebacker core has been depleted due to various reasons. It doesn't mean the coaches aren't good at evaluating talent. It is beyond stupid that people keep bringing up Manu when talking about this kid.
    Aside from picking up a fumble and running it in for a TD, I've not seen Wellington do anything particularly impressive from a physical standpoint. If you're a dumbass, but one who at least can run and hit, you have a hell of a lot more than 39 total tackles through 8 games starting at an ILB spot. The guy is the exact same size as BBK was and people said BBK was too small, etc. Stop it with the "Wellington has talent" false narrative that was started by DDY 2 years ago as he (illogically) ranted about BBK.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,808 Swaye's Wigwam
    BeerThirty said:

    Swaye said:

    BeerThirty said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    This seems like a good time to remind everyone that no one on this bored has the slightest idea of how to evaluate high school football film

    Like I said, I trust the coaches. They like this kid. Good enough for me. I don't give two shits that his other offers are from midlevel big 12 schools
    I'm just not sure how we can say "I trust the corches" when we have arrived at year 6 with Manu and Wellington as our starting ILBs. Perhaps we shouldn't be trusting the coaches with this position group. They haven't done fuckall to earn it.
    Wellington has all the physical talent, the kid just can't put it together upstairs. We are missing Beavers, Eifler, and Kaho would probably be getting significant playing time. Shit happens. Linebacker core has been depleted due to various reasons. It doesn't mean the coaches aren't good at evaluating talent. It is beyond stupid that people keep bringing up Manu when talking about this kid.
    These same coaches recruited Manu. It brings their evaluation of lbs into question, just like the other failures that led to Wellington and Manu being the best inside linebackers on the roster. That's the point.
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  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,741 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    BeerThirty said:

    Swaye said:

    BeerThirty said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    This seems like a good time to remind everyone that no one on this bored has the slightest idea of how to evaluate high school football film

    Like I said, I trust the coaches. They like this kid. Good enough for me. I don't give two shits that his other offers are from midlevel big 12 schools
    I'm just not sure how we can say "I trust the corches" when we have arrived at year 6 with Manu and Wellington as our starting ILBs. Perhaps we shouldn't be trusting the coaches with this position group. They haven't done fuckall to earn it.
    Wellington has all the physical talent, the kid just can't put it together upstairs. We are missing Beavers, Eifler, and Kaho would probably be getting significant playing time. Shit happens. Linebacker core has been depleted due to various reasons. It doesn't mean the coaches aren't good at evaluating talent. It is beyond stupid that people keep bringing up Manu when talking about this kid.
    These same coaches recruited Manu. It brings their evaluation of lbs into question, just like the other failures that led to Wellington and Manu being the best inside linebackers on the roster. That's the point.
    @chuck thanks for providing my answer for me
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