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Cooper McDonald, 2020 3* LB, Justin (Northwest), TX (Committed)
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Manu was the in for togiai and we all know how that turned out.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think they did. In hindsight that sounds good.Tequilla said:
Kyler Manu is also a great example of why you never offer a player to try to get an in with a future playerbackthepack said:
Utah offered Kyler Manu tooTequilla said:
If Utah thinks a player is a good defender and offers ... good chance he isBeerThirty said:
Yeah, you're right he fucking sucks because Texas Tech and Baylor want him to play football for them. Kid should just give up and focus on the discus, maybe he can make the Olympics.backthepack said:Cole didn’t even get a sniff from anyone of those others but us. His 2nd best offer is Baylor or Texas Tech...
Matt Ruhle is a damn good coach and there’s a reason why Baylor is undefeated ... I trust his evaluations
Matt Wells is doing some good things in Lubbock on the back of doing some really good things at Utah St ... he’s pretty damn good as well
Offers from any of these programs I wouldn’t call as representative of sucking
Plus malloe was recruiting like shit at the beginning until he got it together. -
It’s more of a point to those that think it matters to recruit other players at a school to get other big fish ... wasting any scholarship isn’t a bright ideaRoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think they did. In hindsight that sounds good.Tequilla said:
Kyler Manu is also a great example of why you never offer a player to try to get an in with a future playerbackthepack said:
Utah offered Kyler Manu tooTequilla said:
If Utah thinks a player is a good defender and offers ... good chance he isBeerThirty said:
Yeah, you're right he fucking sucks because Texas Tech and Baylor want him to play football for them. Kid should just give up and focus on the discus, maybe he can make the Olympics.backthepack said:Cole didn’t even get a sniff from anyone of those others but us. His 2nd best offer is Baylor or Texas Tech...
Matt Ruhle is a damn good coach and there’s a reason why Baylor is undefeated ... I trust his evaluations
Matt Wells is doing some good things in Lubbock on the back of doing some really good things at Utah St ... he’s pretty damn good as well
Offers from any of these programs I wouldn’t call as representative of sucking -
backthepack said:
Why don’t want the best recruit at ILB in a class to be Texas Tech caliber. That’s not good enough.
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Thanks for remembering the times I was right Fremonttroll. The only ILB recruits I can remember excited about under this staff were Kaho and Heimuli, while I was at least optimistic if not excited about Calvert and Tupetala (sp?).FremontTroll said:
@chuck does. No idea if he has weighed in here.bananasnblondes said:This seems like a good time to remind everyone that no one on this bored has the slightest idea of how to evaluate high school football film
I really dont get it with this guy. Good prospects are exceptional for their position in at least one area. At ILB it either needs to be pure speed/explosiveness (BBK, Marquis Cooper, Heimuli) or an exceptional combo of size and speed (Mason Foster, Donald Butler). Size alone is worthless (see Sirmon, Manu).
Small guys with speed have a way better chance of working out than mediocre athletes that are already big enough. That's the category this guy fits. I'm amazed the staff doesn't get this. -
Pretty sure that’s a convenient narrative for why we took a shitty player like Manu. It maybe played a small role, but I really think they simply misevaluated Manu it couldn’t get someone who was better. IIRC, he committed pretty early before his senior year.animate said:
Manu was the in for togiai and we all know how that turned out.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think they did. In hindsight that sounds good.Tequilla said:
Kyler Manu is also a great example of why you never offer a player to try to get an in with a future playerbackthepack said:
Utah offered Kyler Manu tooTequilla said:
If Utah thinks a player is a good defender and offers ... good chance he isBeerThirty said:
Yeah, you're right he fucking sucks because Texas Tech and Baylor want him to play football for them. Kid should just give up and focus on the discus, maybe he can make the Olympics.backthepack said:Cole didn’t even get a sniff from anyone of those others but us. His 2nd best offer is Baylor or Texas Tech...
Matt Ruhle is a damn good coach and there’s a reason why Baylor is undefeated ... I trust his evaluations
Matt Wells is doing some good things in Lubbock on the back of doing some really good things at Utah St ... he’s pretty damn good as well
Offers from any of these programs I wouldn’t call as representative of sucking
Plus malloe was recruiting like shit at the beginning until he got it together. -
I stand with chuck then. FTG.chuck said:
Thanks for remembering the times I was right Fremonttroll. The only ILB recruits I can remember excited about under this staff were Kaho and Heimuli, while I was at least optimistic if not excited about Calvert and Tupetala (sp?).FremontTroll said:
@chuck does. No idea if he has weighed in here.bananasnblondes said:This seems like a good time to remind everyone that no one on this bored has the slightest idea of how to evaluate high school football film
I really dont get it with this guy. Good prospects are exceptional for their position in at least one area. At ILB it either needs to be pure speed/explosiveness (BBK, Marquis Cooper, Heimuli) or an exceptional combo of size and speed (Mason Foster, Donald Butler). Size alone is worthless (see Sirmon, Manu).
Small guys with speed have a way better chance of working out than mediocre athletes that are already big enough. That's the category this guy fits. I'm amazed the staff doesn't get this. -
I think it was this. That 2015 class was really a struggle they couldn’t beat out any real competition.RoadDawg55 said:
Pretty sure that’s a convenient narrative for why we took a shitty player like Manu. It maybe played a small role, but I really think they simply misevaluated Manu it couldn’t get someone who was better. IIRC, he committed pretty early before his senior year.animate said:
Manu was the in for togiai and we all know how that turned out.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think they did. In hindsight that sounds good.Tequilla said:
Kyler Manu is also a great example of why you never offer a player to try to get an in with a future playerbackthepack said:
Utah offered Kyler Manu tooTequilla said:
If Utah thinks a player is a good defender and offers ... good chance he isBeerThirty said:
Yeah, you're right he fucking sucks because Texas Tech and Baylor want him to play football for them. Kid should just give up and focus on the discus, maybe he can make the Olympics.backthepack said:Cole didn’t even get a sniff from anyone of those others but us. His 2nd best offer is Baylor or Texas Tech...
Matt Ruhle is a damn good coach and there’s a reason why Baylor is undefeated ... I trust his evaluations
Matt Wells is doing some good things in Lubbock on the back of doing some really good things at Utah St ... he’s pretty damn good as well
Offers from any of these programs I wouldn’t call as representative of sucking
Plus malloe was recruiting like shit at the beginning until he got it together. -
Yeah, I agree with you. Sounded suspicious at the time but it was sold as some grand plan to mine Idaho's finest.RoadDawg55 said:
Pretty sure that’s a convenient narrative for why we took a shitty player like Manu. It maybe played a small role, but I really think they simply misevaluated Manu it couldn’t get someone who was better. IIRC, he committed pretty early before his senior year.animate said:
Manu was the in for togiai and we all know how that turned out.RoadDawg55 said:
I don’t think they did. In hindsight that sounds good.Tequilla said:
Kyler Manu is also a great example of why you never offer a player to try to get an in with a future playerbackthepack said:
Utah offered Kyler Manu tooTequilla said:
If Utah thinks a player is a good defender and offers ... good chance he isBeerThirty said:
Yeah, you're right he fucking sucks because Texas Tech and Baylor want him to play football for them. Kid should just give up and focus on the discus, maybe he can make the Olympics.backthepack said:Cole didn’t even get a sniff from anyone of those others but us. His 2nd best offer is Baylor or Texas Tech...
Matt Ruhle is a damn good coach and there’s a reason why Baylor is undefeated ... I trust his evaluations
Matt Wells is doing some good things in Lubbock on the back of doing some really good things at Utah St ... he’s pretty damn good as well
Offers from any of these programs I wouldn’t call as representative of sucking
Plus malloe was recruiting like shit at the beginning until he got it together.
Instead that fat fuck coach steered him to Urban's former playground -
I'm pretty sure this isn't allowed anymore, you can't be on scholarship on a "lesser sport" and walk on to a football team (or basketball I think). This is to stop teams from stashing kids on other sports and allowing them to play football. If you want to walk on to the football team, you either have to get put on a football scholarship or give up your existing scholarship to the track team.Emoterman said:
Just looked it up, yeah that's who I meant. Apparently he recruited himself, he wanted to play football, and Arizona let him walk on while on a scholarship for discus. I was wrong about immediate starter, but apparently a two year starter and he got some NFL tire kicking and is in the XFL.FremontTroll said:
Who was that? They had De Beer who also threw discus but he was recruited for football and still took awhile to develop. He was also massively huge.Emoterman said:
That's not Coop, but...BeerThirty said:
LimitedEmoterman said:
As a former thrower myself, I think the throws are one of the great inefficiencies in American sports. Explosive, agile behemoths that football has NEVER, to my extensive knowledge, mined for athletes. I think Arizona had a monster of a hammer thrower who was an immediate starter at OT...
Suffice it to say, I love that Coop is a Texas state champion in discus as a junior. Love it. -
I thought that was always true. Not sure the specifics of De Beer’s scholarship situation. Maybe he had that blood diamond money.Nothingburger said:
I'm pretty sure this isn't allowed anymore, you can't be on scholarship on a "lesser sport" and walk on to a football team (or basketball I think). This is to stop teams from stashing kids on other sports and allowing them to play football. If you want to walk on to the football team, you either have to get put on a football scholarship or give up your existing scholarship to the track team.Emoterman said:
Just looked it up, yeah that's who I meant. Apparently he recruited himself, he wanted to play football, and Arizona let him walk on while on a scholarship for discus. I was wrong about immediate starter, but apparently a two year starter and he got some NFL tire kicking and is in the XFL.FremontTroll said:
Who was that? They had De Beer who also threw discus but he was recruited for football and still took awhile to develop. He was also massively huge.Emoterman said:
That's not Coop, but...BeerThirty said:
LimitedEmoterman said:
As a former thrower myself, I think the throws are one of the great inefficiencies in American sports. Explosive, agile behemoths that football has NEVER, to my extensive knowledge, mined for athletes. I think Arizona had a monster of a hammer thrower who was an immediate starter at OT...
Suffice it to say, I love that Coop is a Texas state champion in discus as a junior. Love it.
