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Ronald Reagan interviewed by Johnny Carson (before he was president)

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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Back in the olden days, conservatives knew bashing government was political theatre; conservatives didn't actually behave as if government was the enemy. Ronald Reagan's policies were both pro-government and pro-big government. This was true for him as a Governor and President. The nuts who took over the conservative brand during the past 20 years actually do seem to believe government is the enemy. Of course government will not shrink anytime soon for reasons having to do with math and shit. The only question that really matters is whether we're going to borrow to pay for it or fund it in real time.

    This is the lie O'Keefed tells himself in order for him to believe that he still is a conservatives. The "nuts" nominated a moderate in 2012 and you still voted for Obama and then lied to yourself some more by claiming Obama would be more fiscally responsible than Romney.
    Romney 2012 was no moderate. He looked unhitched from his moorings pursuing the Presidency—and not merely before he got the nomination. McCain always winked and reminded us who he really was in 2008. Not so Mitt.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,309 Standard Supporter
    Sure if you don't define moderate as William Buckley. Romney was not remotely a conservative. He was W reincarnated. Romneycare for Mass and drugs for greedy gezzers for W. Hell Maverick voted against it.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764

    Sure if you don't define moderate as William Buckley. Romney was not remotely a conservative. He was W reincarnated. Romneycare for Mass and drugs for greedy gezzers for W. Hell Maverick voted against it.

    Romney ran against Romneycare in 2012.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,309 Standard Supporter
    Barry ran against gay marriage. You have a point counselor? I pity your clients.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    I made my point, Gasbag. You obviously grasped it too. The adjustment of your medication appears to have worked.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,309 Standard Supporter
    Still pity your clients. You made the point that Romney lied about opposing government healthcare. I made the point about Barry lying about gay marriage. I agree about both points. This is where you admit I wasn't being a gasbag and that Barry lied. Don't hurt yourself.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764

    Still pity your clients. You made the point that Romney lied about opposing government healthcare. I made the point about Barry lying about gay marriage. I agree about both points. This is where you admit I wasn't being a gasbag and that Barry lied. Don't hurt yourself.

    Mitt was a hot mess. I'm definitely not accusing him of lying, 'cuz I'm not clear where he stands on Romneycare now.

    As for Barry's views on gay marriage, who cares? The President's views on marriage aren't relevant in any meaningful way to the rules governing who can marry.


  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    HHusky said:

    Still pity your clients. You made the point that Romney lied about opposing government healthcare. I made the point about Barry lying about gay marriage. I agree about both points. This is where you admit I wasn't being a gasbag and that Barry lied. Don't hurt yourself.

    Mitt was a hot mess. I'm definitely not accusing him of lying, 'cuz I'm not clear where he stands on Romneycare now.

    As for Barry's views on gay marriage, who cares? The President's views on marriage aren't relevant in any meaningful way to the rules governing who can marry.


    Flagged for using the term “hot mess”. H is a 21 year old sorority girl?
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    edited April 2019

    HHusky said:

    Still pity your clients. You made the point that Romney lied about opposing government healthcare. I made the point about Barry lying about gay marriage. I agree about both points. This is where you admit I wasn't being a gasbag and that Barry lied. Don't hurt yourself.

    Mitt was a hot mess. I'm definitely not accusing him of lying, 'cuz I'm not clear where he stands on Romneycare now.

    As for Barry's views on gay marriage, who cares? The President's views on marriage aren't relevant in any meaningful way to the rules governing who can marry.


    Flagged for using the term “hot mess”. H is a 21 year old sorority girl?
    Maybe

    When was the last time you saw him and 21 year old sorority girl in the same room
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Back in the olden days, conservatives knew bashing government was political theatre; conservatives didn't actually behave as if government was the enemy. Ronald Reagan's policies were both pro-government and pro-big government. This was true for him as a Governor and President. The nuts who took over the conservative brand during the past 20 years actually do seem to believe government is the enemy. Of course government will not shrink anytime soon for reasons having to do with math and shit. The only question that really matters is whether we're going to borrow to pay for it or fund it in real time.

    This is the lie O'Keefed tells himself in order for him to believe that he still is a conservatives. The "nuts" nominated a moderate in 2012 and you still voted for Obama and then lied to yourself some more by claiming Obama would be more fiscally responsible than Romney.
    Romney 2012 was no moderate. He looked unhitched from his moorings pursuing the Presidency—and not merely before he got the nomination. McCain always winked and reminded us who he really was in 2008. Not so Mitt.
    Just because you believe the lies you're telling yourself O'Keefed doesn't mean the rest of us have to.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    HHusky said:

    I made my point, Gasbag. You obviously grasped it too. The adjustment of your medication appears to have worked.

    Oh you made a point, just not the one you think you made.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    HHusky said:

    Still pity your clients. You made the point that Romney lied about opposing government healthcare. I made the point about Barry lying about gay marriage. I agree about both points. This is where you admit I wasn't being a gasbag and that Barry lied. Don't hurt yourself.

    Mitt was a hot mess. I'm definitely not accusing him of lying, 'cuz I'm not clear where he stands on Romneycare now.

    As for Barry's views on gay marriage, who cares? The President's views on marriage aren't relevant in any meaningful way to the rules governing who can marry.


    Flagged for using the term “hot mess”. H is a 21 year old sorority girl?
    In his thinking most definitely
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    Is this the fellow who closed down the mental hospitals that remained closed for the 35 years which caused the homeless situation? Or is this the guy who ruined the economy for 40 years because he killed unions, shipped jobs overseas and made it so rich people aren’t taxed? Or Singh is the guy who sold Newsom his house in Sacramento #teamhondo

    Don't forget he was going to get rid of Medicare and Social Security.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    SFGbob said:

    Is this the fellow who closed down the mental hospitals that remained closed for the 35 years which caused the homeless situation? Or is this the guy who ruined the economy for 40 years because he killed unions, shipped jobs overseas and made it so rich people aren’t taxed? Or Singh is the guy who sold Newsom his house in Sacramento #teamhondo

    Don't forget he was going to get rid of Medicare and Social Security.
    Well government is the problem, I’m told. Why didn’t he?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Is this the fellow who closed down the mental hospitals that remained closed for the 35 years which caused the homeless situation? Or is this the guy who ruined the economy for 40 years because he killed unions, shipped jobs overseas and made it so rich people aren’t taxed? Or Singh is the guy who sold Newsom his house in Sacramento #teamhondo

    Don't forget he was going to get rid of Medicare and Social Security.
    Well government is the problem, I’m told. Why didn’t he?
    President isn't a King. Let me know if you need anymore civics lessons.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Is this the fellow who closed down the mental hospitals that remained closed for the 35 years which caused the homeless situation? Or is this the guy who ruined the economy for 40 years because he killed unions, shipped jobs overseas and made it so rich people aren’t taxed? Or Singh is the guy who sold Newsom his house in Sacramento #teamhondo

    Don't forget he was going to get rid of Medicare and Social Security.
    Well government is the problem, I’m told. Why didn’t he?
    President isn't a King. Let me know if you need anymore civics lessons.
    He didn’t even use his bully pulpit to say they should be gotten rid of.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,802 Founders Club
    Reagan spoke against Medicare when it was being passed
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    edited April 2019

    Reagan spoke against Medicare when it was being passed

    While staunch conservative O'keefed fully supported Obamacare
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    Obamacare isn’t single payer. I’m more of an Otto Von Bismarck kind of liberal.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    HHusky said:

    Obamacare isn’t single payer. I’m more of an Otto Von Bismarck kind of liberal.

    So, you still supported it.
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