Seriously I can't figure this one out. Raw talent wise it's not that close. I think pete is trying to protect his "everything has to be fair" mantra and maybe not give the pathetic pac 12 coaches any early tips.
I think we should all make a pact to stop saying this like it's based in reality. A.) UW doesn't open with a PAC-12 team. So the cat's going to be out of the bag. It's not like USC is going to start revamping their defensive strategy now to get ahead of some game in October or something. B.) Even if the "element of surprise" made one damned bit of sense, element of surprise < reps for presumptive starter.
I think it's time to allow for the possibility that Haener might just legitimately win the position. All through the Browning era, the big complaint was that he never had to compete for his job, now there's a real competition, and everyone's pissed that Pete doesn't just anoint the 5-star transfer in the spring? Either competition is good or it isn't. It's not like the staff would start Haener just because they like short guys who throw pick-sixes--Petersen's "type" is the guy who is accurate, avoids turnovers, and moves the chains, which doesn't rule out a 6'5" cannon-armed guy in the least.
They're getting their chances, and we're not privy to what's happening in the closed Saturday full-contact practices. If Haener wins, he wins. I'll definitely adjust my expectations for the season were this to happen--it would definitely suck--but the guy who performs should get the nod.
You're missing the obvious point that Petersen's "type" of QB is fucking retarded, and the whole offense is based around being a giant pussy.
If Haener wins the job because he's better, that's fine. The issue is that we don't think Haener actually is better. He may be better at being an obedient pussy who doesn't take risks, but that's not actually better.
Petersen's offense isn't needlessly complicated, it's just needlessly conservative. We don't allow our players to make plays. It's all structured around not making mistakes and it fucking shows.
You can't eliminate mistakes completely, and when your entire system is based around not making mistakes, mistakes hurt more when they do happen.
Moving the chains means very little if you can't move them all the way to the red zone, or if you stall once you get there. Let's allow our playmakers to make some plays.
Sounds a lot like a certain offensive mindset from the 90's.
Seriously I can't figure this one out. Raw talent wise it's not that close. I think pete is trying to protect his "everything has to be fair" mantra and maybe not give the pathetic pac 12 coaches any early tips.
I think we should all make a pact to stop saying this like it's based in reality. A.) UW doesn't open with a PAC-12 team. So the cat's going to be out of the bag. It's not like USC is going to start revamping their defensive strategy now to get ahead of some game in October or something. B.) Even if the "element of surprise" made one damned bit of sense, element of surprise < reps for presumptive starter.
I think it's time to allow for the possibility that Haener might just legitimately win the position. All through the Browning era, the big complaint was that he never had to compete for his job, now there's a real competition, and everyone's pissed that Pete doesn't just anoint the 5-star transfer in the spring? Either competition is good or it isn't. It's not like the staff would start Haener just because they like short guys who throw pick-sixes--Petersen's "type" is the guy who is accurate, avoids turnovers, and moves the chains, which doesn't rule out a 6'5" cannon-armed guy in the least.
They're getting their chances, and we're not privy to what's happening in the closed Saturday full-contact practices. If Haener wins, he wins. I'll definitely adjust my expectations for the season were this to happen--it would definitely suck--but the guy who performs should get the nod.
You're missing the obvious point that Petersen's "type" of QB is fucking retarded, and the whole offense is based around being a giant pussy.
If Haener wins the job because he's better, that's fine. The issue is that we don't think Haener actually is better. He may be better at being an obedient pussy who doesn't take risks, but that's not actually better.
Petersen's offense isn't needlessly complicated, it's just needlessly conservative. We don't allow our players to make plays. It's all structured around not making mistakes and it fucking shows.
You can't eliminate mistakes completely, and when your entire system is based around not making mistakes, mistakes hurt more when they do happen.
Moving the chains means very little if you can't move them all the way to the red zone, or if you stall once you get there. Let's allow our playmakers to make some plays.
Sounds a lot like a certain offensive mindset from the 90's.
Petersen's offense has given him among the top 3 winning %'s in college football. Yeah buttfucks let's open it up Kingsbury style and go .500. Or Riley style and not play defense. If Pete were in the big-12 he'd be undefeated 3 years straight. And he wouldnt lose to Iowa St or Texas
Peterman is a stickler to a fault to his own system.
I think I have him figured out.
He wants absolute control, he'd rather have a Toyota Corolla with good tires (predictability) than a high end sports car that needs to be built up but comes with higher potential risk and maintenance. Do not ever beat yourself with mistakes.
All these trick plays and misdirection that Peterman is known for comes from a system of control in a short field rather than having a quarterback being capable of stretching a field.
When we had John Ross and Dante Pettis etc we had fancy tires and racing stripes but ultimately a limited engine in brownsocks. We only reached so far.
Now that we have bigger and potentially higher performing engines available in Eason, sirmon and yankoff - peterman can't help himself but keep haener and Morris types around to provide short field reliability and mistakes minimization.
It's a slow grind. Peterman is a poker grinder, grinding out profits.
Fucking frustrating at times but I guess you can't argue too much with the overall success.
Yeah I know this isn't anything new. I'm just lying in bed after unsuccessfully trying to get the wife to put out and I'm checking the forums ... Fuck!
Sounds like he is trying to over bore his cam shaft
You over bore the block to prep for larger pistons, not the cams. Can't bore any hydraulic or solid camshaft setup.
You can offset grind them, but its cost prohibitive compared to a new cam grind.
Downvote reality again. So I was thinking, who would you boofies rather have coaching here? U just dont get it...oh, nor do you bring anything concrete as an alternative. No wonder dawgman abandoned all of you. If Derek had d-mans base he'd do the same. Say SOMETHING!!!
Put the joystick down, clean up the cum off the carpet from the virtual fuckins u just had, and post something. Pup cant carry this joint forever. After the spring ding Pup is gone till fall. What are u sorry fucks going to do then for entertainment? I'd put a needle in my arm b4 I came here in the Pup off-season
Seriously I can't figure this one out. Raw talent wise it's not that close. I think pete is trying to protect his "everything has to be fair" mantra and maybe not give the pathetic pac 12 coaches any early tips.
I think we should all make a pact to stop saying this like it's based in reality. A.) UW doesn't open with a PAC-12 team. So the cat's going to be out of the bag. It's not like USC is going to start revamping their defensive strategy now to get ahead of some game in October or something. B.) Even if the "element of surprise" made one damned bit of sense, element of surprise < reps for presumptive starter.
I think it's time to allow for the possibility that Haener might just legitimately win the position. All through the Browning era, the big complaint was that he never had to compete for his job, now there's a real competition, and everyone's pissed that Pete doesn't just anoint the 5-star transfer in the spring? Either competition is good or it isn't. It's not like the staff would start Haener just because they like short guys who throw pick-sixes--Petersen's "type" is the guy who is accurate, avoids turnovers, and moves the chains, which doesn't rule out a 6'5" cannon-armed guy in the least.
They're getting their chances, and we're not privy to what's happening in the closed Saturday full-contact practices. If Haener wins, he wins. I'll definitely adjust my expectations for the season were this to happen--it would definitely suck--but the guy who performs should get the nod.
You're missing the obvious point that Petersen's "type" of QB is fucking retarded, and the whole offense is based around being a giant pussy.
If Haener wins the job because he's better, that's fine. The issue is that we don't think Haener actually is better. He may be better at being an obedient pussy who doesn't take risks, but that's not actually better.
Petersen's offense isn't needlessly complicated, it's just needlessly conservative. We don't allow our players to make plays. It's all structured around not making mistakes and it fucking shows.
You can't eliminate mistakes completely, and when your entire system is based around not making mistakes, mistakes hurt more when they do happen.
Moving the chains means very little if you can't move them all the way to the red zone, or if you stall once you get there. Let's allow our playmakers to make some plays.
Point taken, but isn't it possible that the whole reason for the continued QB competition is that Eason isn't making plays? What's funny is that, so far at least, it's Haener that seems to be turning the ball over most in practice. Rumor has it Eason threw four picks in the first Saturday closed practice, but otherwise I haven't read about many. Haener, though? Seems there's a pick-six just about every day. And yet the battle is still close. Why? Probably because you also rarely read about Eason actually getting the ball into the end zone, whereas Haener is always throwing like 80% and scoring touchdowns.
Look, I get the frustration: Eason was supposed to come in and take the lid off the offense. A large reason I was optimistic for next season was exactly that. He was going to be so talented that the offense would finally be able to compete against elite teams. Instead, he's having a hard time beating out the guy who's mostly known for scoring Cal's only points in a loss. Instead of bitching about the coaches not just handing the Eason the job on a silver platter, I'm choosing to just accept that Trevor Lawrence isn't in the QB room and adjust season expectations accordingly.
Eason's splitting reps with the ones. He's being given ample opportunity. We can bitch and moan all we want, but if Eason were the transformative talent we thought he was, he could just win the fucking job at any time. He's not. It's that simple. It's also early, though. Maybe he'll get it by fall and this will all be a moot point.
The issue is that Haener has spent more time in Petersen's no-mistake, short-pass-because-jake-browning-cannot-throw-a-deep-ball offense. Haener knows how to dink and dunk down the field in a Kellen Moore type of way because he's been doing it longer than Eason.
Eason and his missile-launcher of a right arm is now finally getting to run with the ones, but he is running an offense that is far different than what he ran at Georgia. Last year Eason's job was running the opponents' offense. As a result, he is now missing guys, throwing wide, and soaring balls over the receivers' heads.
In some ways I am impressed that Eason is running with the first team. Imagine Haener transferring to Georgia. Do you think he would be splitting time with the ones with Eason or Fromm? Fuck No. Look, I am a little disappointed that Eason isn't crushing it right now. But I also understand that he is finally getting to run an offense that is completely unfamiliar to him and his accuracy/mechanics might be a little rusty because last year the coaches were rightly focused on Brownsocks and Haener.
I can't imagine Eason losing the starting job. For four years opposing defenses were able to cheat toward the line of scrimmage because Browning didn't have the arm to take the lid off the defense. Those days are over, and don't think Petersen and Hamden don't know it. Eason completely changes what the offense AND the defense can do because of his arm. If he doesn't start, it's because ultimately he lacks the intelligence to figure out the offense or accurately throw a 5 yard out or a 10-yard curl in.
Peterman is a stickler to a fault to his own system.
I think I have him figured out.
He wants absolute control, he'd rather have a Toyota Corolla with good tires (predictability) than a high end sports car that needs to be built up but comes with higher potential risk and maintenance. Do not ever beat yourself with mistakes.
All these trick plays and misdirection that Peterman is known for comes from a system of control in a short field rather than having a quarterback being capable of stretching a field.
When we had John Ross and Dante Pettis etc we had fancy tires and racing stripes but ultimately a limited engine in brownsocks. We only reached so far.
Now that we have bigger and potentially higher performing engines available in Eason, sirmon and yankoff - peterman can't help himself but keep haener and Morris types around to provide short field reliability and mistakes minimization.
It's a slow grind. Peterman is a poker grinder, grinding out profits.
Fucking frustrating at times but I guess you can't argue too much with the overall success.
Yeah I know this isn't anything new. I'm just lying in bed after unsuccessfully trying to get the wife to put out and I'm checking the forums ... Fuck!
Sounds like he is trying to over bore his cam shaft
You over bore the block to prep for larger pistons, not the cams. Can't bore any hydraulic or solid camshaft setup.
You can offset grind them, but its cost prohibitive compared to a new cam grind.
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Put the joystick down, clean up the cum off the carpet from the virtual fuckins u just had, and post something. Pup cant carry this joint forever. After the spring ding Pup is gone till fall. What are u sorry fucks going to do then for entertainment? I'd put a needle in my arm b4 I came here in the Pup off-season
Eason and his missile-launcher of a right arm is now finally getting to run with the ones, but he is running an offense that is far different than what he ran at Georgia. Last year Eason's job was running the opponents' offense. As a result, he is now missing guys, throwing wide, and soaring balls over the receivers' heads.
In some ways I am impressed that Eason is running with the first team. Imagine Haener transferring to Georgia. Do you think he would be splitting time with the ones with Eason or Fromm? Fuck No. Look, I am a little disappointed that Eason isn't crushing it right now. But I also understand that he is finally getting to run an offense that is completely unfamiliar to him and his accuracy/mechanics might be a little rusty because last year the coaches were rightly focused on Brownsocks and Haener.
I can't imagine Eason losing the starting job. For four years opposing defenses were able to cheat toward the line of scrimmage because Browning didn't have the arm to take the lid off the defense. Those days are over, and don't think Petersen and Hamden don't know it. Eason completely changes what the offense AND the defense can do because of his arm. If he doesn't start, it's because ultimately he lacks the intelligence to figure out the offense or accurately throw a 5 yard out or a 10-yard curl in.