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Star Wars - The Rise of Skywalker

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  • SwayeSwaye Posts: 28,720
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    Rogue One or GTFO!
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  • Doog_de_JourDoog_de_Jour Posts: 2,233
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    Swaye said:

    Rogue One or GTFO!


    @Swaye - they have a Rogue One TV series in development.

    https://ew.com/tv/2018/11/08/star-wars-diego-luna-rogue-one-series/

    And I’m all for more Diego Luna.



    Rawrrrrrr.
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  • SwayeSwaye Posts: 28,720
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    Swaye said:

    Rogue One or GTFO!


    @Swaye - they have a Rogue One TV series in development.

    https://ew.com/tv/2018/11/08/star-wars-diego-luna-rogue-one-series/

    And I’m all for more Diego Luna.



    Rawrrrrrr.
    I will watch it because I set phasers to NERD at all possible times. I'm geeked up for GOT tonight. I am not so nerdy as to have a viewing party, but pretty pumped for it. Gotta get the HBO NOW app today of course, because FUCK YOU DISH.
    Doog_de_Jour
  • jecorneljecornel Posts: 5,594
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    I'm sure the movie will be shit. The last one was en epic disaster. Collosal turd.
    Gladstone
  • DerekJohnsonDerekJohnson Posts: 23,616
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    "I'm sure the movie will be shit. The last one was en epic disaster. Collosal turd."

    - Siskel and Cornell At The Movies
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  • BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Posts: 1,433
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    Can someone tell me what part of the timeline this movie is now sitting in? Are we finally at the end of this story? How many more of these movies can Hollywood pump out? I saw the last two that were released (not the Han Solo one, which I didn't know even existed) and thought they were fine as just stand-alone movies. Only the Star Wars superiority guys give a shit about the originals and comparing those to the recent ones, etc.
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  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Posts: 5,127
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    Gladstone said:

    Swaye said:

    Rogue One or GTFO!

    This.

    As a 44 year old male Star Wars (the actual Star Wars) blew my mind and I’ve been pretty loyal since. Prequels almost killed me, but the Plinkett reviews got me through the dark times.

    Episode 7 was shitty and boring, but at least somewhat acceptable... but Rogue One was at least decent. Pacing was a bit slow in the beginning but the last 20 minutes was at least ROTJ level (which isn’t saying a whole lot, but whatever).

    The Last Jedi didn’t produce a good enough Plinkett review to justify how fucking terrible it was and having a bunch of incels think the reason it sucked was the forced PC, women leadership, diversity bullshit (which was fucking awful) instead of just realizing that it sucked because it sucked and that shit was immaterial to it sucking, but having to hear them drone on for years about how much that ruined everything... it was too much. I couldn’t even enjoy the Internet shitting on it as much as I usually can.

    I tried to watch Solo in the theatre but walked out. I was like, I’m done here.

    I think there are only two good SW movies (SW and ESB) and that ROTJ is bad, but acceptable on some level...

    But given that since 1980 there has been only 2 movies that are even C level it’s a fucking grim reality that I’ve devoted so much of my life to this bullshit.

    In the first 5 years of my life SW and ESB came out and in the 39 years since it’s been a bunch of crap.

    Exactly. I was raised on the OT and consider a Star Wars and (especially) Empire some of the greatest movies ever made. Movies that shaped my fandom and tastes into my formative years and beyond. TLJ felt like someone I loved and had a healthy marriage with for decades suddenly dropping dead and dying in front of me. Truth is though, it had been deteriorating since 1983. I just kinda didn’t want to admit it.

    I was too young at the time to appreciate how crappy the prequels were and yes the Plinkett reviews were cathartic. But TLJ was the only time in my life I felt anger in a theater. And then disgust. It wasn’t the bevy of unremarkable characters. Nor the plot lines to nowhere. Or bizarre casino messaging about the horrors of capitalism...I think?? (Save the space horses but not the slave children, capitalism is horrible ps Star Wars land opens in 2019 get your tickets now!!), and it wasn’t about how the current revenge politics landscape somehow got associated with it. Although that is supremely stupid.

    It was the disrespect towards the original movies.


    My beloved favorite characters, who I thought beat the bad guys and lived happily ever after, were actually failures who spent their entire lives fighting a horrifying, generations long, losing war that took away everything they ever loved and eventually killed them, but not before passing the horror on to a new cursed generation.

    I didn’t see Solo and I probably never will. Now the episode nine trailer is hinting that Palpatine is still alive? Doesn’t that completely invalidate the entirety of the Skywalker arc?

    Rogue One was an awesome spectacle and I greatly enjoyed it, but the entire premise of the movie walks back some of the original a little bit. In Star Wars, the point of Luke’s final trench run is that it was a one in 1 million shot. That he had to be completely in tune with the force to hit it.

    Nerd rant over and I’ll probably not post about Star Wars again because apparently it still triggers me. Sounds like I care.
    You and Dennis pretty much wrote what I couldn't stand to. The first two are cinema classics. ESB might be my favorite movie ever. ROTJ wasn't the best but was acceptable as a bow to tie up all the ends more or less. I read probably 95% of the extended universe material. Thrawn trilogy is way more interesting than anything the studios have produced since the first three movies.

    The prequels were bad but having watched them since aren't as terrible as I'd remembered. Still rubbish but pablum for a starved fan base and obviously younger fans enjoyed them.

    TFA was again, on some level acceptable at the time. I walked out thinking, ok, this isn't great but at least there are some interesting arcs and if the worst I can expect from Disney is a bit of recycling the franchise then ok, you can have my money. This will at least hook my nephews and the next generation so that we can share this nerdy franchise together.

    Spot on with TLJ, would have walked out had I not been with my nephews. Just fucking awful on a level that made me feel disgust. It was just a bad movie that was like some kind of bad anti-fan fiction attempting to tear down all of the positives of the other movies. It managed to also ruin TFA by making all of the interesting subplots and arcs completely meaningless. All of this in some attempt to be edgy and different and move on with the franchise. THEN WHY ARE YOU MAKING A MOVIE IN A LONG STANDING FRANCHISE IF YOU DONT CARE ABOUT THE ORIGINAL FRANCHISE MATERIAL?

    Both Rogue One and Solo were acceptable if not great. Both suffered from obvious executive micromanagement and could have been vastly better with only minor changes I feel. I guess that happens when you fire people in the middle of making a movie.

    I'm going to begrudgingly watch this last movie if only because fuck it, I'm however many movies deep now and how much worse can it be than TLJ? If it is at this point I'll just laugh at it like a bad horror movie or when UW loses to Cal. I'm definitely pirating it and watching it at home on my projector though.
    GladstoneDoog_de_JourSwayeDennis_DeYoung
  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Posts: 14,649
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    Gladstone said:

    Swaye said:

    Rogue One or GTFO!

    This.

    As a 44 year old male Star Wars (the actual Star Wars) blew my mind and I’ve been pretty loyal since. Prequels almost killed me, but the Plinkett reviews got me through the dark times.

    Episode 7 was shitty and boring, but at least somewhat acceptable... but Rogue One was at least decent. Pacing was a bit slow in the beginning but the last 20 minutes was at least ROTJ level (which isn’t saying a whole lot, but whatever).

    The Last Jedi didn’t produce a good enough Plinkett review to justify how fucking terrible it was and having a bunch of incels think the reason it sucked was the forced PC, women leadership, diversity bullshit (which was fucking awful) instead of just realizing that it sucked because it sucked and that shit was immaterial to it sucking, but having to hear them drone on for years about how much that ruined everything... it was too much. I couldn’t even enjoy the Internet shitting on it as much as I usually can.

    I tried to watch Solo in the theatre but walked out. I was like, I’m done here.

    I think there are only two good SW movies (SW and ESB) and that ROTJ is bad, but acceptable on some level...

    But given that since 1980 there has been only 2 movies that are even C level it’s a fucking grim reality that I’ve devoted so much of my life to this bullshit.

    In the first 5 years of my life SW and ESB came out and in the 39 years since it’s been a bunch of crap.

    Exactly. I was raised on the OT and consider a Star Wars and (especially) Empire some of the greatest movies ever made. Movies that shaped my fandom and tastes into my formative years and beyond. TLJ felt like someone I loved and had a healthy marriage with for decades suddenly dropping dead and dying in front of me. Truth is though, it had been deteriorating since 1983. I just kinda didn’t want to admit it.

    I was too young at the time to appreciate how crappy the prequels were and yes the Plinkett reviews were cathartic. But TLJ was the only time in my life I felt anger in a theater. And then disgust. It wasn’t the bevy of unremarkable characters. Nor the plot lines to nowhere. Or bizarre casino messaging about the horrors of capitalism...I think?? (Save the space horses but not the slave children, capitalism is horrible ps Star Wars land opens in 2019 get your tickets now!!), and it wasn’t about how the current revenge politics landscape somehow got associated with it. Although that is supremely stupid.

    It was the disrespect towards the original movies.


    My beloved favorite characters, who I thought beat the bad guys and lived happily ever after, were actually failures who spent their entire lives fighting a horrifying, generations long, losing war that took away everything they ever loved and eventually killed them, but not before passing the horror on to a new cursed generation.

    I didn’t see Solo and I probably never will. Now the episode nine trailer is hinting that Palpatine is still alive? Doesn’t that completely invalidate the entirety of the Skywalker arc?

    Rogue One was an awesome spectacle and I greatly enjoyed it, but the entire premise of the movie walks back some of the original a little bit. In Star Wars, the point of Luke’s final trench run is that it was a one in 1 million shot. That he had to be completely in tune with the force to hit it.

    Nerd rant over and I’ll probably not post about Star Wars again because apparently it still triggers me. Sounds like I care.
    The Rogue One premise was kind of weird, totally and the first half of the movie was soooo slow it hurts... but the last half of RO just 'felt' like Star Wars. It felt like what I'd want these movies to be like. It was just really placed in the right context and it had that feeling they hit right in some of the video games (that i've never played) where you are simultaneously in a world with the other stuff happening.

    They should get Gareth to direct all of them and refuse to hire celebrities (FWhit's part was totally shoe-horned in and destroyed the entire pace of the first half of the film) and just 'live in that world'.

    It actually seemed like it was taking place in the same universe as Star Wars was. Although the encounter with Walrus Man - i'm always like 'whoever recognizes that is going to think it's retarded, why do it?'

    It wasn't PERFECT, but it was pretty fucking decent. If the last half of that movie were a starting spot for a slew of them, I would enjoy every one... unfortunately it wasn't. They've been sooooo fucking bad.

    Also - that chick is fucking hawt. And they resisted the temptation to have her and DL fall in love and have a love story, which was really nice. They just let the tension build and then they died.

    If they wanted, they COULD make a ton of good movies like that with the Bothan spies that died to get the info and all that because we don't know these characters, we know the rebellion is dispersed and we don't know who is going to die so it makes for some decent actual suspense.

    The main issue with these blockbusters is we know from the start who will not die. They could have that solved.

    But obviously they want to capitalize on their 'big' characters like Han, etc... but those movies are so fucking awful it's insane.
    UW_Doog_BotDoog_de_JourGladstoneSwaye
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Posts: 34,954
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    Finally wised up to @MrPlinkett a while back. Funny as shit, almost chinsightful.
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  • Dennis_DeYoungDennis_DeYoung Posts: 14,649
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    A lot of the tone of this place is kind of Mr. Plinkett and Desus and Mero. Those are the two things I've seen most similar.
    Doog_de_JourSwaye
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