The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
Not so sure all of Donnie's problems were tied to Russia Probe. Maybe. I don't know. He seemed to stumble a little on his own. Let's face it: the first year or so on the job he was newbie to Washington and barely understood the mechanics of how it even works. He's also had internal problems in his administration because of who he is. And occasionally he says stupid shit all on his own.
No doubt, that if this turns out to have been started the way it's being written in the Tug, that's bad and I can't rationalize it. It's bad for the country and it's a terrible precedent to establish. We'll be a pineapple republic in no time, with fisticuffs on the senate floor and all kinds of crazy shit.
Would be interesting to replay the last two years w/o Russia and see what does and does not get done. Hard to say.
The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
Not so sure all of Donnie's problems were tied to Russia Probe. Maybe. I don't know. He seemed to stumble a little on his own. Let's face it: the first year or so on the job he was newbie to Washington and barely understood the mechanics of how it even works. He's also had internal problems in his administration because of who he is. And occasionally he says stupid shit all on his own.
No doubt, that if this turns out to have been started the way it's being written in the Tug, that's bad and I can't rationalize it. It's bad for the country and it's a terrible precedent to establish. We'll be a pineapple republic in no time, with fisticuffs on the senate floor and all kinds of crazy shit.
Would be interesting to replay the last two years w/o Russia and see what does and does not get done. Hard to say.
You are correct there is speculation in this theory
Paul Ryan may have been a dick regardless. Never Trumpers came before the accusations. They found the campaign unseemly. And don't undersell the Bush Establishment Let's Put Troops All Over the World wing that hated him as well
I appreciate that you see the danger if this investigation did start as posited (fancy word)
Mueller knew in late 2017 that there was no probable cause for the FISA warrants or of Trump collusion. He did have irrefutable evidence of actual Pip's collusion but ignored it and proceeded with process crime investigation's against Trump's associates in a witch hunt. He then tried to get Trump to testify for a perjury trap. Mueller is POS hack.
Now there's the REAL scandal, led by Comey. That mother-fucker lied and scammed his way into several FISA warrants that had no probable cause whatsoever. And FUCK the lapdog FISA judges who signed those warrants, too, even though, truth be told, it's rare for any Judge anywhere to decline to sign search warrants, because of the old CYA and they can always blame the lawyers for lying to them.
Read between the lines & wise up, guys. He concluded - at that point in time - that he didn't have evidence of collusion. He then continued to investigate the case for another several months.
I'm skeptical of that too. And it's going to be a tough one to prove or disprove. Investigations aren't like timed events. It's an on-going thing. In August of 2018 they may not have had any evidence. But we don't know where he was in the process.
I have a hard time believing Mueller had more or less wrapped up his investigation and said, "let's sit on this for a while". Nothing I've ever heard or read about him makes that a likely story. But who knows.
I make the point, and you & Race get the upvotes for agreeing with me. This place is either a) unfair, b) biased, or c) still full of hungover fucks who drank til last call this morning at the Dutchess, Lox Stock or J&M.
Read between the lines & wise up, guys. He concluded - at that point in time - that he didn't have evidence of collusion. He then continued to investigate the case for another several months.
I'm skeptical of that too. And it's going to be a tough one to prove or disprove. Investigations aren't like timed events. It's an on-going thing. In August of 2018 they may not have had any evidence. But we don't know where he was in the process.
I have a hard time believing Mueller had more or less wrapped up his investigation and said, "let's sit on this for a while". Nothing I've ever heard or read about him makes that a likely story. But who knows.
I make the point, and you & Race get the upvotes for agreeing with me. This place is either a) unfair, b) biased, or c) still full of hungover fucks who drank til last call this morning at the Dutchess, Lox Stock or J&M.
Maybe we can get @PurpleThrobber to throw a nice T&A pic your way as insult mitigation. Always seems to soothe what ails me.
The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
We don’t deal in hypotheticals Race. What actually happened ended up being a big win for him.
The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
You are truly a pussy if you are blaming Democrats and this investigation for shit not getting done when Republicans owned both houses and the presidency. Own your shit.
The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
You are truly a pussy if you are blaming Democrats and this investigation for shit not getting done when Republicans owned both houses and the presidency. Own your shit.
You will be chief apologist for literally anything and everything done by the Left. Got it.
The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
You are truly a pussy if you are blaming Democrats and this investigation for shit not getting done when Republicans owned both houses and the presidency. Own your shit.
You will be chief apologist for literally anything and everything done by the Left. Got it.
What did the left have to do with shit not getting done? John McCain was the roadblock for the Obamacare repeal. You didn't put actual border wall funding on the docket until after you lost the house.
The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
You are truly a pussy if you are blaming Democrats and this investigation for shit not getting done when Republicans owned both houses and the presidency. Own your shit.
You will be chief apologist for literally anything and everything done by the Left. Got it.
What did the left have to do with shit not getting done? John McCain was the roadblock for the Obamacare repeal. You didn't put actual border wall funding on the docket until after you lost the house.
Idiot.
So the entire left is as irrelevant as you? Great argument. Apologist.
The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
You are truly a pussy if you are blaming Democrats and this investigation for shit not getting done when Republicans owned both houses and the presidency. Own your shit.
The point was made earlier by someone else: there are / were some "never Trump" Rs, and there are / were some "Trump can shit in my mouth and it'll be great" Rs too. But there is a big group, who are career politicians and who by their MO tend to be more strategic. The latter group, arguably at least, distanced themselves from Trump any way they could because, at the time, it appeared that this was all going to be quite scandalous. Now, as I mentioned, Donnie does other things unrelated to Russia that make associating with him politically risky. But there's no denying that if he or his affiliates were going to be rolled for treason with the Russians, well, there's no recovering from that. It would be like Joe Kennedy aligning himself with the isolationists and being perceived (somewhat fairly I might add) as not being hard enough on the Nazi / Jew problem. When it shook out how it shook out, his career was over and he knew it. Which is why he turned his eye immediately to his boys. His chicken was baked. Same thing here.
I think it's a fair point. I don't think any of us know to a precise degree how much it got in the way. But Trump has mobilized A LOT of political support for his agenda. Hard to write that off and just assume that they couldn't get it done. Congressmen tend to listen to their constituents.
The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
You are truly a pussy if you are blaming Democrats and this investigation for shit not getting done when Republicans owned both houses and the presidency. Own your shit.
The point was made earlier by someone else: there are / were some "never Trump" Rs, and there are / were some "Trump can shit in my mouth and it'll be great" Rs too. But there is a big group, who are career politicians and who by their MO tend to be more strategic. The latter group, arguably at least, distanced themselves from Trump any way they could because, at the time, it appeared that this was all going to be quite scandalous. Now, as I mentioned, Donnie does other things unrelated to Russia that make associating with him politically risky. But there's no denying that if he or his affiliates were going to be rolled for treason with the Russians, well, there's no recovering from that. It would be like Joe Kennedy aligning himself with the isolationists and being perceived (somewhat fairly I might add) as not being hard enough on the Nazi / Jew problem. When it shook out how it shook out, his career was over and he knew it. Which is why he turned his eye immediately to his boys. His chicken was baked. Same thing here.
I think it's a fair point. I don't think any of us know to a precise degree how much it got in the way. But Trump has mobilized A LOT of political support for his agenda. Hard to write that off and just assume that they couldn't get it done. Congressmen tend to listen to their constituents.
Hondo is too fucking stupid to look past his talking points. And he is upset. And angry. And proud that his democrats are ill informed
Mueller knew in late 2017 that there was no probable cause for the FISA warrants or of Trump collusion. He did have irrefutable evidence of actual Pip's collusion but ignored it and proceeded with process crime investigation's against Trump's associates in a witch hunt. He then tried to get Trump to testify for a perjury trap. Mueller is POS hack.
Now there's the REAL scandal, led by Comey. That mother-fucker lied and scammed his way into several FISA warrants that had no probable cause whatsoever. And FUCK the lapdog FISA judges who signed those warrants, too, even though, truth be told, it's rare for any Judge anywhere to decline to sign search warrants, because of the old CYA and they can always blame the lawyers for lying to them.
We could probably get close to bi partisan agreement here to get rid of the FISA court
I have no idea if they do any good or not. But still. And I'm sure I supported it 18 years ago. I was young and impressionable
Mueller knew in late 2017 that there was no probable cause for the FISA warrants or of Trump collusion. He did have irrefutable evidence of actual Pip's collusion but ignored it and proceeded with process crime investigation's against Trump's associates in a witch hunt. He then tried to get Trump to testify for a perjury trap. Mueller is POS hack.
Now there's the REAL scandal, led by Comey. That mother-fucker lied and scammed his way into several FISA warrants that had no probable cause whatsoever. And FUCK the lapdog FISA judges who signed those warrants, too, even though, truth be told, it's rare for any Judge anywhere to decline to sign search warrants, because of the old CYA and they can always blame the lawyers for lying to them.
We could probably get close to bi partisan agreement here to get rid of the FISA court
I have no idea if they do any good or not. But still. And I'm sure I supported it 180 years ago. I was young and impressionable
The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
You are truly a pussy if you are blaming Democrats and this investigation for shit not getting done when Republicans owned both houses and the presidency. Own your shit.
The point was made earlier by someone else: there are / were some "never Trump" Rs, and there are / were some "Trump can shit in my mouth and it'll be great" Rs too. But there is a big group, who are career politicians and who by their MO tend to be more strategic. The latter group, arguably at least, distanced themselves from Trump any way they could because, at the time, it appeared that this was all going to be quite scandalous. Now, as I mentioned, Donnie does other things unrelated to Russia that make associating with him politically risky. But there's no denying that if he or his affiliates were going to be rolled for treason with the Russians, well, there's no recovering from that. It would be like Joe Kennedy aligning himself with the isolationists and being perceived (somewhat fairly I might add) as not being hard enough on the Nazi / Jew problem. When it shook out how it shook out, his career was over and he knew it. Which is why he turned his eye immediately to his boys. His chicken was baked. Same thing here.
I think it's a fair point. I don't think any of us know to a precise degree how much it got in the way. But Trump has mobilized A LOT of political support for his agenda. Hard to write that off and just assume that they couldn't get it done. Congressmen tend to listen to their constituents.
Hondo is too fucking stupid to look past his talking points. And he is upset. And angry. And proud that his democrats are ill informed
The Mueller investigation ended being a boon to Trump. You guys should thank the Dems and show a little more gratitude.
That's kind of like thanking me for leaving after I spend two years on your couch dropping chips all over your rug
Fine, Manafort did bad deals with the Ukraine in 2005. Which has been known by prosecutors for some time now. He got what he deserved
A lot of folks had fortunes drained and reputations destroyed and did not deserve it.
Do you want 4 more years or not? Trump’s been saying fake news / whitch hunt for 2 years and now he gets gets to say see I told you so all the way up to Election Day.
That's great and all but I would have rather had his first two years spent with the GOP congress passing his agenda rather than waiting to see if he was a traitor or not
Winning without results is Obama Part Duex
You are truly a pussy if you are blaming Democrats and this investigation for shit not getting done when Republicans owned both houses and the presidency. Own your shit.
The point was made earlier by someone else: there are / were some "never Trump" Rs, and there are / were some "Trump can shit in my mouth and it'll be great" Rs too. But there is a big group, who are career politicians and who by their MO tend to be more strategic. The latter group, arguably at least, distanced themselves from Trump any way they could because, at the time, it appeared that this was all going to be quite scandalous. Now, as I mentioned, Donnie does other things unrelated to Russia that make associating with him politically risky. But there's no denying that if he or his affiliates were going to be rolled for treason with the Russians, well, there's no recovering from that. It would be like Joe Kennedy aligning himself with the isolationists and being perceived (somewhat fairly I might add) as not being hard enough on the Nazi / Jew problem. When it shook out how it shook out, his career was over and he knew it. Which is why he turned his eye immediately to his boys. His chicken was baked. Same thing here.
I think it's a fair point. I don't think any of us know to a precise degree how much it got in the way. But Trump has mobilized A LOT of political support for his agenda. Hard to write that off and just assume that they couldn't get it done. Congressmen tend to listen to their constituents.
Hondo is too fucking stupid to look past his talking points. And he is upset. And angry. And proud that his democrats are ill informed
Read between the lines & wise up, guys. He concluded - at that point in time - that he didn't have evidence of collusion. He then continued to investigate the case for another several months.
I'm skeptical of that too. And it's going to be a tough one to prove or disprove. Investigations aren't like timed events. It's an on-going thing. In August of 2018 they may not have had any evidence. But we don't know where he was in the process.
I have a hard time believing Mueller had more or less wrapped up his investigation and said, "let's sit on this for a while". Nothing I've ever heard or read about him makes that a likely story. But who knows.
I make the point, and you & Race get the upvotes for agreeing with me. This place is either a) unfair, b) biased, or c) still full of hungover fucks who drank til last call this morning at the Dutchess, Lox Stock or J&M.
The bar on NE 55th is spelled “Duchess.” You would’ve known that if you’ve ever been there or ever traveled north of federal way.
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No doubt, that if this turns out to have been started the way it's being written in the Tug, that's bad and I can't rationalize it. It's bad for the country and it's a terrible precedent to establish. We'll be a pineapple republic in no time, with fisticuffs on the senate floor and all kinds of crazy shit.
Would be interesting to replay the last two years w/o Russia and see what does and does not get done. Hard to say.
Paul Ryan may have been a dick regardless. Never Trumpers came before the accusations. They found the campaign unseemly. And don't undersell the Bush Establishment Let's Put Troops All Over the World wing that hated him as well
I appreciate that you see the danger if this investigation did start as posited (fancy word)
This place is either a) unfair, b) biased, or c) still full of hungover fucks who drank til last call this morning at the Dutchess, Lox Stock or J&M.
Idiot.
I think it's a fair point. I don't think any of us know to a precise degree how much it got in the way. But Trump has mobilized A LOT of political support for his agenda. Hard to write that off and just assume that they couldn't get it done. Congressmen tend to listen to their constituents.
Not a good look
At all
I have no idea if they do any good or not. But still. And I'm sure I supported it 18 years ago. I was young and impressionable
You would’ve known that if you’ve ever been there or ever traveled north of federal way.