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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Reagan ran for President fear mongering about the black welfare queen popping out babies to get more and more government assistance. Which was both a lie and racist, but it convinced a lot of resentful whites to vote for him and a pillar of the modern conservative movement is the belief that non-whites shouldn’t get any welfare. It’s why they want to nuke food stamps and medicaid but not medicare.

    Wait wait wait. I was following along there until you wrote this:

    ... and a pillar of the modern conservative movement is the belief that non-whites shouldn’t get any welfare. It’s why they want to nuke food stamps and medicaid but not medicare.

    Most people I know that believe in entitlement reform have no axe to grind with the black community and want entitlement reform across the board. Anyone who just doesn't want black people to access welfare is a blatant racist. No argument there. But that is hardly a pillar position of the conservative movement.

    I'm pretty clear, as are many others, that there is A LOT of poor white trash in this country sucking on the government.
    There are actually more whites on welfare than blacks but the guy is such a fucking bigot when he thinks of Welfare he thinks of black people and that's why he called Welfare reform racist.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Reagan ran for President fear mongering about the black welfare queen popping out babies to get more and more government assistance. Which was both a lie and racist, but it convinced a lot of resentful whites to vote for him and a pillar of the modern conservative movement is the belief that non-whites shouldn’t get any welfare. It’s why they want to nuke food stamps and medicaid but not medicare.

    Your claim was that welfare reform under Clinton was racist. You were asked how that was the case and you're now lying about what Reagan said about the Welfare Queen. Who give a fuck about what you're "convinced" of Kunt? You were "convinced" that Clinton "gutted" Welfare despite the fact that welfare spending increased by $25B. I'm not interested in your worthless opinions I want facts and so far all I see is that welfare reform is "racist" because it made your Kunt hurt. I don't see any facts.
    Lol lyin Bob still peddling lies.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,623 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Reagan ran for President fear mongering about the black welfare queen popping out babies to get more and more government assistance. Which was both a lie and racist, but it convinced a lot of resentful whites to vote for him and a pillar of the modern conservative movement is the belief that non-whites shouldn’t get any welfare. It’s why they want to nuke food stamps and medicaid but not medicare.

    Your claim was that welfare reform under Clinton was racist. You were asked how that was the case and you're now lying about what Reagan said about the Welfare Queen. Who give a fuck about what you're "convinced" of Kunt? You were "convinced" that Clinton "gutted" Welfare despite the fact that welfare spending increased by $25B. I'm not interested in your worthless opinions I want facts and so far all I see is that welfare reform is "racist" because it made your Kunt hurt. I don't see any facts.
    Lol lyin Bob still peddling lies.

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    Tell us what this chart has to do with your "point"?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Reagan ran for President fear mongering about the black welfare queen popping out babies to get more and more government assistance. Which was both a lie and racist, but it convinced a lot of resentful whites to vote for him and a pillar of the modern conservative movement is the belief that non-whites shouldn’t get any welfare. It’s why they want to nuke food stamps and medicaid but not medicare.

    Your claim was that welfare reform under Clinton was racist. You were asked how that was the case and you're now lying about what Reagan said about the Welfare Queen. Who give a fuck about what you're "convinced" of Kunt? You were "convinced" that Clinton "gutted" Welfare despite the fact that welfare spending increased by $25B. I'm not interested in your worthless opinions I want facts and so far all I see is that welfare reform is "racist" because it made your Kunt hurt. I don't see any facts.
    Lol lyin Bob still peddling lies.

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    Hondo still so fucking stupid he thinks that charts refutes anything I said. Tell us what you think that chart says Hondo.

    Cue the Kunt act.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Reagan ran for President fear mongering about the black welfare queen popping out babies to get more and more government assistance. Which was both a lie and racist, but it convinced a lot of resentful whites to vote for him and a pillar of the modern conservative movement is the belief that non-whites shouldn’t get any welfare. It’s why they want to nuke food stamps and medicaid but not medicare.

    Your claim was that welfare reform under Clinton was racist. You were asked how that was the case and you're now lying about what Reagan said about the Welfare Queen. Who give a fuck about what you're "convinced" of Kunt? You were "convinced" that Clinton "gutted" Welfare despite the fact that welfare spending increased by $25B. I'm not interested in your worthless opinions I want facts and so far all I see is that welfare reform is "racist" because it made your Kunt hurt. I don't see any facts.
    Lol lyin Bob still peddling lies.

    photo 96B11AD1-6E6F-4D95-B862-64DB453E4897_zpsbrqnqkij.png

    Tell us what this chart has to do with your "point"?
    Bob lies and uses "welfare went up 25 billion during Clinton" which not only lacks context. It doesn't take into account the fact that welfare reform was later in Clinton's term. It also is fully disingenuous and a lie.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    edited March 2019
    Why can't you tell us what your chart says Hondo? And how does welfare reform occurring later in Clinton's term refute anything I've said?


    Welfare spending excluding Medicaid, which is welfare increased by over $25 Billion during Clinton's eight years in office. If you were to include the spending on Medicaid that spending figure would be much greater.

    This increase in Welfare spending came about despite the fact that millions of people left the welfare rolls after welfare reform was enacted and because the Gingrich economy was booming setting what was at the time historical low rates of unemployment.

    Fewer people on welfare and yet welfare spending increased by $25 Billion from when Clinton took office. Yeah they "gutted" it.

    Now tell us what your chart says Kunt.


  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Why can't you tell us what your chart says Hondo? And how does welfare reform occurring later in Clinton's term refute anything I've said?


    Welfare spending excluding Medicaid, which is welfare increased by over $25 Billion during Clinton's eight years in office. If you were to include the spending on Medicaid that spending figure would be much greater.

    This increase in Welfare spending came about despite the fact that millions of people left the welfare rolls after welfare reform was enacted and because the Gingrich economy was booming setting what was at the time historical low rates of unemployment.

    Fewer people on welfare and yet welfare spending increased by $25 Billion from when Clinton took office. Yeah they "gutted" it.

    Now tell us what your chart says Kunt.


    Do you want me to hold your hand too?

    Bob, tell me what happens when the economy grows and there's more people in the country. Have you heard of inflation? The chart I posted takes inflation into account and clearly shows the relative decline in welfare spending.

    My 13 year old child understands that concept. I'm not surprised that you don't.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,623 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Why can't you tell us what your chart says Hondo? And how does welfare reform occurring later in Clinton's term refute anything I've said?


    Welfare spending excluding Medicaid, which is welfare increased by over $25 Billion during Clinton's eight years in office. If you were to include the spending on Medicaid that spending figure would be much greater.

    This increase in Welfare spending came about despite the fact that millions of people left the welfare rolls after welfare reform was enacted and because the Gingrich economy was booming setting what was at the time historical low rates of unemployment.

    Fewer people on welfare and yet welfare spending increased by $25 Billion from when Clinton took office. Yeah they "gutted" it.

    Now tell us what your chart says Kunt.


    Do you want me to hold your hand too?

    Bob, tell me what happens when the economy grows and there's more people in the country. Have you heard of inflation? The chart I posted takes inflation into account and clearly shows the relative decline in welfare spending.

    My 13 year old child understands that concept. I'm not surprised that you don't.

    So Bob didn't lie, you are talking relative he is talking real numbers

    Did it increase 25 billion?

    No chart needed, its a yes or no question
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,363
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    SFGbob said:

    Reagan ran for President fear mongering about the black welfare queen popping out babies to get more and more government assistance. Which was both a lie and racist, but it convinced a lot of resentful whites to vote for him and a pillar of the modern conservative movement is the belief that non-whites shouldn’t get any welfare. It’s why they want to nuke food stamps and medicaid but not medicare.

    Wait wait wait. I was following along there until you wrote this:

    ... and a pillar of the modern conservative movement is the belief that non-whites shouldn’t get any welfare. It’s why they want to nuke food stamps and medicaid but not medicare.

    Most people I know that believe in entitlement reform have no axe to grind with the black community and want entitlement reform across the board. Anyone who just doesn't want black people to access welfare is a blatant racist. No argument there. But that is hardly a pillar position of the conservative movement.

    I'm pretty clear, as are many others, that there is A LOT of poor white trash in this country sucking on the government.
    There are actually more whites on welfare than blacks but the guy is such a fucking bigot when he thinks of Welfare he thinks of black people
    Duh! How do you think we got "welfare reform" in the first place?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Why can't you tell us what your chart says Hondo? And how does welfare reform occurring later in Clinton's term refute anything I've said?


    Welfare spending excluding Medicaid, which is welfare increased by over $25 Billion during Clinton's eight years in office. If you were to include the spending on Medicaid that spending figure would be much greater.

    This increase in Welfare spending came about despite the fact that millions of people left the welfare rolls after welfare reform was enacted and because the Gingrich economy was booming setting what was at the time historical low rates of unemployment.

    Fewer people on welfare and yet welfare spending increased by $25 Billion from when Clinton took office. Yeah they "gutted" it.

    Now tell us what your chart says Kunt.


    Do you want me to hold your hand too?

    Bob, tell me what happens when the economy grows and there's more people in the country. Have you heard of inflation? The chart I posted takes inflation into account and clearly shows the relative decline in welfare spending.

    My 13 year old child understands that concept. I'm not surprised that you don't.

    So Bob didn't lie, you are talking relative he is talking real numbers

    Did it increase 25 billion?

    No chart needed, its a yes or no question
    It's a lie. That's like running a race with 1 person in it and gloating that you won. You need context. I'm not surprised that you tongue Bob's ass too.