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A look at certain press practices in Obama vs. Trump presidencies

GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,506 Standard Supporter
This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


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But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

Flame away, statists.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


    Tag on from HotAir.com
    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,730 Standard Supporter
    burns my ass - is that flaming away?

    and here is a butt on fire (closest I could get to burns my ass)

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,216 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


    Tag on from HotAir.com
    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
    He did a shit load of damage.
  • HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,986
    edited March 2019
    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


    Tag on from HotAir.com
    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.


  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


    Tag on from HotAir.com
    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
    He did a shit load of damage.
    You have no idea the damage he did. But how was he a bad president?
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,604

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


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    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
    He did a shit load of damage.
    You have no idea the damage he did. But how was he a bad president?
    Racially divisive, fiscally irresponsible, economically inept, with a foreign policy that made us weaker and more vulnerable.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


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    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
    What a simple response. There's more outlets covered in the Free Beacon article, look at it yourself. I chose to quote the parts about two of the four or five most important newspapers in the country, ones that assure the country they are holding those in power to account.

    Your Obama-was-boring refrain is always lame, but particularly stupid here as it relates to the due diligence of a free press.
    So then I have a few questions.

    1) why are they primarily looking at outlets that are perceived to be liberal? Why not look at all the media on both sides?

    2) do you think it has anything to do with the actions of the president? I'd be curious to see this extended to Obama's first term. Maybe experience of his cabinet has to do with it?

    3) with this information, exactly what point are you trying to make?

    4) do you really think the conservative media ignored Obama and was easy on him?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    SFGbob said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


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    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
    He did a shit load of damage.
    You have no idea the damage he did. But how was he a bad president?
    Racially divisive, fiscally irresponsible, economically inept, with a foreign policy that made us weaker and more vulnerable.
    That was a board joke. HTH.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,216 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


    Tag on from HotAir.com
    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
    He did a shit load of damage.
    You have no idea the damage he did. But how was he a bad president?
    I have an idea!
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,604
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


    Tag on from HotAir.com
    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
    What a simple response. There's more outlets covered in the Free Beacon article, look at it yourself. I chose to quote the parts about two of the four or five most important newspapers in the country, ones that assure the country they are holding those in power to account.

    Your Obama-was-boring refrain is always lame, but particularly stupid here as it relates to the due diligence of a free press.
    So then I have a few questions.

    1) why are they primarily looking at outlets that are perceived to be liberal? Why not look at all the media on both sides?

    2) do you think it has anything to do with the actions of the president? I'd be curious to see this extended to Obama's first term. Maybe experience of his cabinet has to do with it?

    3) with this information, exactly what point are you trying to make?

    4) do you really think the conservative media ignored Obama and was easy on him?
    The conservative media is one cable TV outlet and a few small circulation news papers and magazines. Obama was faced with a press where nearly 90% of the people who covered and reported on him voted for him.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


    Tag on from HotAir.com
    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
    What a simple response. There's more outlets covered in the Free Beacon article, look at it yourself. I chose to quote the parts about two of the four or five most important newspapers in the country, ones that assure the country they are holding those in power to account.

    Your Obama-was-boring refrain is always lame, but particularly stupid here as it relates to the due diligence of a free press.
    So then I have a few questions.

    1) why are they primarily looking at outlets that are perceived to be liberal? Why not look at all the media on both sides?

    2) do you think it has anything to do with the actions of the president? I'd be curious to see this extended to Obama's first term. Maybe experience of his cabinet has to do with it?

    3) with this information, exactly what point are you trying to make?

    4) do you really think the conservative media ignored Obama and was easy on him?
    The conservative media is one cable TV outlet and a few small circulation news papers and magazines. Obama was faced with a press where nearly 90% of the people who covered and reported on him voted for him.

    First of all that's bullshit. Secondly I wasn't talking to you.




    I will respond to media point because you are beyond stupid. Why do you leave out local newspapers and TV news? Given that the square area of red is much greater than blue at this point in time. Don't you think the majority of the local news is conservative? I know it sure as hell isn't liberal in Spokane. Idiot.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,604
    I will respond to media point because you are beyond stupid. Why do you leave out local newspapers and TV news? Given that the square area of red is much greater than blue at this point in time. Don't you think the majority of the local news is conservative? I know it sure as hell isn't liberal in Spokane. Idiot.

    First of all most local papers are dying or dead, second of all few if any cover the White House. And I'm stupid? What a dumbfuck. You might as well have asked why High School papers weren't covering Obama.

    How many reporters did the Spokesman_Review have covering the White House and Washington DC Hondo?
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:


    So then I have a few questions.

    1) why are they primarily looking at outlets that are perceived to be liberal? Why not look at all the media on both sides?

    Ahhhhh nummmm nummmm nummmm



    The other outlets included in the analysis of mainstream media were the Associated Press, Bloomberg, CBS News, the Los Angeles Times, NBC News, MSNBC, Reuters, Daily Beast, The Guardian, and the Wall Street Journal.

    Among them, only Bloomberg sent a consistent amount of FOIA requests in the final years of the Obama administration, when the EPA released major proposals such as the Clean Power Plan and its new Waters of the United States rule.


    I didn't say they were liberal, you did.
    2001400ex said:


    2) do you think it has anything to do with the actions of the president?

    Lazy. All presidents take actions. It's the self-proclaimed job of the press to cover them, regardless of whether they like the actions or presidents.
    2001400ex said:

    I'd be curious to see this extended to Obama's first term. Maybe experience of his cabinet has to do with it?

    Your only mildly curious point. I'd like to see that too.
    2001400ex said:

    3) with this information, exactly what point are you trying to make?

    My point is that I'm quite surprised and disappointed the requests are orders of magnitude different.
    2001400ex said:

    4) do you really think the conservative media ignored Obama and was easy on him?

    Of course I don't, but that's a telling juxtaposition against NTY, WaPo, AP, etc. I expect a non-partisan press to expend equal effort no matter who is in office. If you were a critical thinker, you'd have the same expectations.
    Yes I do expect a free press to be equally critical. I'm not sure this is a good measure for that, which is my point. Not even being partisan by saying that. Just look at Trump and he he runs things. He didn't divest his assets for one, which creates conflicts that the media would want to investigate.

    I'm a believer that the media chases flashing lights like a cat does. They are lazy and don't want to do any actual investigative work. If this were a liberal that had tons of business and didn't divest them. I'm positive those same media outlets would be chasing the same things they are with Trump. Trump gives a lot of ammo for any media. Obama was boring and frankly didn't do shit and he was a thin skinned pussy about the conservative media. He hated criticism so he did what he could to minimize it. Trump seems to thrive on criticism.

    If we are being honest about it. You will see the same articles critical of the Virginia governor in the NY times and WaPo. It was easy and a shiny light to chase. Even tho he's a Democrat. That's just one example, but those outlets can and are critical of liberals. Where you never see Fox news be critical of a republican unless they buck the establishment like McCain.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,604
    If this were a liberal that had tons of business and didn't divest them. I'm positive those same media outlets would be chasing the same things they are with Trump.



    Feeeeeeeeelings, nothing more than Feeeeeeeelings.....


    Where you never see Fox news be critical of a republican unless they buck the establishment like McCain.


    Pure fucking bullshit pulled straight out of your ass.
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


    Tag on from HotAir.com
    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
    What a simple response. There's more outlets covered in the Free Beacon article, look at it yourself. I chose to quote the parts about two of the four or five most important newspapers in the country, ones that assure the country they are holding those in power to account.

    Your Obama-was-boring refrain is always lame, but particularly stupid here as it relates to the due diligence of a free press.
    So then I have a few questions.

    1) why are they primarily looking at outlets that are perceived to be liberal? Why not look at all the media on both sides?

    2) do you think it has anything to do with the actions of the president? I'd be curious to see this extended to Obama's first term. Maybe experience of his cabinet has to do with it?

    3) with this information, exactly what point are you trying to make?

    4) do you really think the conservative media ignored Obama and was easy on him?
    The conservative media is one cable TV outlet and a few small circulation news papers and magazines. Obama was faced with a press where nearly 90% of the people who covered and reported on him voted for him.

    http://sbgi.net

    God damn you’re dumb.
  • BennyBeaverBennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346

    The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Why?



  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,604

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.

    Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal

    The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

    The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

    Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

    Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

    The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).


    Tag on from HotAir.com
    But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

    After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.


    In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.

    Flame away, statists.
    Obama was boring and didn't do shit. Water is wet. Why don't you also look at Fox news foia requests?
    What a simple response. There's more outlets covered in the Free Beacon article, look at it yourself. I chose to quote the parts about two of the four or five most important newspapers in the country, ones that assure the country they are holding those in power to account.

    Your Obama-was-boring refrain is always lame, but particularly stupid here as it relates to the due diligence of a free press.
    So then I have a few questions.

    1) why are they primarily looking at outlets that are perceived to be liberal? Why not look at all the media on both sides?

    2) do you think it has anything to do with the actions of the president? I'd be curious to see this extended to Obama's first term. Maybe experience of his cabinet has to do with it?

    3) with this information, exactly what point are you trying to make?

    4) do you really think the conservative media ignored Obama and was easy on him?
    The conservative media is one cable TV outlet and a few small circulation news papers and magazines. Obama was faced with a press where nearly 90% of the people who covered and reported on him voted for him.

    http://sbgi.net

    God damn you’re dumb.
    God you're a mouthy Kunt who didn't refute a word I just said. If Sinclair News is such a right-wing behemoth how is that nearly 90% of the Washington Press Corp voted for Obama? Where are all those right-wing reporters who work of Sinclair?


    God you're a drive by Kunt.
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