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A look at certain press practices in Obama vs. Trump presidencies
GrundleStiltzkin
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This is an interesting way to take a quantitive look at media practices.
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In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.
Flame away, statists.
Media FOIA Requests to EPA Spiked After Trump Election, Data Reveal
The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.
The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.
Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.
Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.
The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).
The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.
Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.
Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.
The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).
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But we already had plenty of proof of this before this latest report was compiled, and it comes from a story we were covering heavily all through the first half of 2018. Do you remember the endless media stories about the “scandal” surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt’s itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.
After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.
After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192… nearly double what Pruitt’s team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.
In before our? Proggies but but but TRUMP: This isn't about how Trump is untrustworthy. That's implied, he's a politician. And but but but Obama is a politician too. I'm not criticizing press practices on Trump, but how they failed under Obama. The differences in this EPA case are stark, and I have no reason to believe it's any different with other agencies.
Flame away, statists.
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Your Obama-was-boring refrain is always lame, but particularly stupid here as it relates to the due diligence of a free press.
1) why are they primarily looking at outlets that are perceived to be liberal? Why not look at all the media on both sides?
2) do you think it has anything to do with the actions of the president? I'd be curious to see this extended to Obama's first term. Maybe experience of his cabinet has to do with it?
3) with this information, exactly what point are you trying to make?
4) do you really think the conservative media ignored Obama and was easy on him?
I will respond to media point because you are beyond stupid. Why do you leave out local newspapers and TV news? Given that the square area of red is much greater than blue at this point in time. Don't you think the majority of the local news is conservative? I know it sure as hell isn't liberal in Spokane. Idiot.
Among them, only Bloomberg sent a consistent amount of FOIA requests in the final years of the Obama administration, when the EPA released major proposals such as the Clean Power Plan and its new Waters of the United States rule.
I didn't say they were liberal, you did. Lazy. All presidents take actions. It's the self-proclaimed job of the press to cover them, regardless of whether they like the actions or presidents. Your only mildly curious point. I'd like to see that too.
My point is that I'm quite surprised and disappointed the requests are orders of magnitude different. Of course I don't, but that's a telling juxtaposition against NTY, WaPo, AP, etc. I expect a non-partisan press to expend equal effort no matter who is in office. If you were a critical thinker, you'd have the same expectations.
First of all most local papers are dying or dead, second of all few if any cover the White House. And I'm stupid? What a dumbfuck. You might as well have asked why High School papers weren't covering Obama.
How many reporters did the Spokesman_Review have covering the White House and Washington DC Hondo?
I'm a believer that the media chases flashing lights like a cat does. They are lazy and don't want to do any actual investigative work. If this were a liberal that had tons of business and didn't divest them. I'm positive those same media outlets would be chasing the same things they are with Trump. Trump gives a lot of ammo for any media. Obama was boring and frankly didn't do shit and he was a thin skinned pussy about the conservative media. He hated criticism so he did what he could to minimize it. Trump seems to thrive on criticism.
If we are being honest about it. You will see the same articles critical of the Virginia governor in the NY times and WaPo. It was easy and a shiny light to chase. Even tho he's a Democrat. That's just one example, but those outlets can and are critical of liberals. Where you never see Fox news be critical of a republican unless they buck the establishment like McCain.
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Where you never see Fox news be critical of a republican unless they buck the establishment like McCain.
Pure fucking bullshit pulled straight out of your ass.
God damn you’re dumb.
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