Their balls ride shotgun

dflea

You can't ride shotgun in these guys' cars. Their huge balls ride over there.

More than 2 deaths per year on average.

Holy fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D09yD0MN4Vg

MikeDamone

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man_TT

creepycoug

There's a netflix piece I started last night on Formula 1. Those guys are right in there.

Sledog

I did some amateur road racing back in the 80's on GSXR's. It was about the most fun you could have with your clothes on. But Isle of Man is somewhere on the crazy scale above Nancy Pelosi crazy. All those fixed object on that course will kill. The beauty of the track is no fixed objects. If you go down and don't tumble you are usually ok. Slide into a rock wall at over 120 and it's kinda different.

Southerndawg

creepycoug said:

There's a netflix piece I started last night on Formula 1. Those guys are right in there.

In terms of danger, F1 is definitely dangerous, but the Isle of Man TT is on a different level. In terms of technology, lateral acceleration, braking, track times and so on, even in its currently neutered state, F1 blows away Moto GP.

greenblood

My father in law went there about 3 years ago. He said it was the greatest thing he’s ever done. The island’s entire economy relies on these events. You can literally rent a bed and breakfast and sit on the roof and watch if you want. It’s also very dangerous for spectators. You can literally be within a few feet of the action with nothing between you and the racers if you wish. You also can get passes to go into the tents and see the racers and the bikes.

The city is also pretty cool I hear. They have almost no crime there. And very strict penalties for crime. They’ll literally kick you off the island and never let you back for shit like littering.

The plane ride there and back is a little freaky though, because you are literally in a farm plane and they can get some high winds. I have definitely added this to my bucket list.

MikeDamone

greenblood said:

My father in law went there about 3 years ago. He said it was the greatest thing he’s ever done. The island’s entire economy relies on these events. You can literally rent a bed and breakfast and sit on the roof and watch if you want. It’s also very dangerous for spectators. You can literally be within a few feet of the action with nothing between you and the racers if you wish. You also can get passes to go into the tents and see the racers and the bikes.

The city is also pretty cool I hear. They have almost no crime there. And very strict penalties for crime. They’ll literally kick you off the island and never let you back for shit like littering.

The plane ride there and back is a little freaky though, because you are literally in a farm plane and they can get some high winds. I have definitely added this to my bucket list.

Sounds like fun. Literally

dflea

creepycoug said:

There's a netflix piece I started last night on Formula 1. Those guys are right in there.

They were back in the day, but there hasn't been an F1 driver killed on track in a long time, and the safety measures in place at every track are miles ahead of the standards in the IoM TT race. F1 got serious after Senna and Ratzenberger were killed in one weekend, and they're the last race weekend fatalities I can recall.

The 2019 F1 season starts this coming weekend, btw.

greenblood

MikeDamone said:

greenblood said:

My father in law went there about 3 years ago. He said it was the greatest thing he’s ever done. The island’s entire economy relies on these events. You can literally rent a bed and breakfast and sit on the roof and watch if you want. It’s also very dangerous for spectators. You can literally be within a few feet of the action with nothing between you and the racers if you wish. You also can get passes to go into the tents and see the racers and the bikes.

The city is also pretty cool I hear. They have almost no crime there. And very strict penalties for crime. They’ll literally kick you off the island and never let you back for shit like littering.

The plane ride there and back is a little freaky though, because you are literally in a farm plane and they can get some high winds. I have definitely added this to my bucket list.

Sounds like fun. Literally

Good god, how did I do that? Literally. As you can see, I'm not a technically gifted writer.

Southerndawg

dflea said:

creepycoug said:

There's a netflix piece I started last night on Formula 1. Those guys are right in there.

They were back in the day, but there hasn't been an F1 driver killed on track in a long time, and the safety measures in place at every track are miles ahead of the standards in the IoM TT race. F1 got serious after Senna and Ratzenberger were killed in one weekend, and they're the last race weekend fatalities I can recall.

The 2019 F1 season starts this coming weekend, btw.

The dynamics of F1 cars are truly impressive to witness first hand, particularly the braking and the speed they change direction, those things are on another plane. Even the straight line acceleration is damned impressive. I really miss the peak of the V10 era. Hearing those things screaming by at 19,000 RPM was absolutely visceral.

CuntWaffle

Think of all that fossil fuel consumption wasted on a sport!!1

dflea

Southerndawg said:

dflea said:

creepycoug said:

There's a netflix piece I started last night on Formula 1. Those guys are right in there.

They were back in the day, but there hasn't been an F1 driver killed on track in a long time, and the safety measures in place at every track are miles ahead of the standards in the IoM TT race. F1 got serious after Senna and Ratzenberger were killed in one weekend, and they're the last race weekend fatalities I can recall.

The 2019 F1 season starts this coming weekend, btw.

The dynamics of F1 cars are truly impressive to witness first hand, particularly the braking and the speed they change direction, those things are on another plane. Even the straight line acceleration is damned impressive. I really miss the peak of the V10 era. Hearing those things screaming by at 19,000 RPM was absolutely visceral.

When I attended the Belgian GP in 2004, our seats were in the grandstand next to Eau Rouge. The cars shrieked so loudly going up that hill that I thought my ears might bleed. Motorhead level hearing damage for sure. A V-10 turning at 20k rpms sounds like nothing else.

The new power plants sound more like sewing machines than race cars, but they're still pretty cool - and faster than ever.

creepycoug

greenblood said:

MikeDamone said:

greenblood said:

My father in law went there about 3 years ago. He said it was the greatest thing he’s ever done. The island’s entire economy relies on these events. You can literally rent a bed and breakfast and sit on the roof and watch if you want. It’s also very dangerous for spectators. You can literally be within a few feet of the action with nothing between you and the racers if you wish. You also can get passes to go into the tents and see the racers and the bikes.

The city is also pretty cool I hear. They have almost no crime there. And very strict penalties for crime. They’ll literally kick you off the island and never let you back for shit like littering.

The plane ride there and back is a little freaky though, because you are literally in a farm plane and they can get some high winds. I have definitely added this to my bucket list.

Sounds like fun. Literally

Good god, how did I do that? Literally. As you can see, I'm not a technically gifted writer.

Either that, or you have a teenage girl in the house. Like, that's probably it.

creepycoug

dflea said:

creepycoug said:

There's a netflix piece I started last night on Formula 1. Those guys are right in there.

They were back in the day, but there hasn't been an F1 driver killed on track in a long time, and the safety measures in place at every track are miles ahead of the standards in the IoM TT race. F1 got serious after Senna and Ratzenberger were killed in one weekend, and they're the last race weekend fatalities I can recall.

The 2019 F1 season starts this coming weekend, btw.

Jules Bianchi died in 2015 at the Japan Grand Prix. They showed it on the Net Flix piece I mentioned. As with Dale Ernhardt, that kid's crash wasn't all that spectacular, but like Ernhardt involved going straight into the wall at the end of it, which is where I assume the head injuries occur.

You see these dudes getting airborne and flipping over and completely tearing the car apart and walking away. And then you see guy skidding around and wining up nose first into the wall and boom, he dead.

I guess the lesson is don't go into the wall nose first.

One thing I've noticed about Formula 1 is that when there's a crash, everybody loses their fucking tires. It's like they pop off like like loose ski bindings. The thing you have to worry about, even in a semi-protected cockpit, is a flying wheel going 200 + mph making any contact with your head. That's gotta hurt.

It all takes big balls. Can't drive like that at all afraid.

Southerndawg

creepycoug said:

dflea said:

creepycoug said:

There's a netflix piece I started last night on Formula 1. Those guys are right in there.

They were back in the day, but there hasn't been an F1 driver killed on track in a long time, and the safety measures in place at every track are miles ahead of the standards in the IoM TT race. F1 got serious after Senna and Ratzenberger were killed in one weekend, and they're the last race weekend fatalities I can recall.

The 2019 F1 season starts this coming weekend, btw.

Jules Bianchi died in 2015 at the Japan Grand Prix. They showed it on the Net Flix piece I mentioned. As with Dale Ernhardt, that kid's crash wasn't all that spectacular, but like Ernhardt involved going straight into the wall at the end of it, which is where I assume the head injuries occur.

You see these dudes getting airborne and flipping over and completely tearing the car apart and walking away. And then you see guy skidding around and wining up nose first into the wall and boom, he dead.

I guess the lesson is don't go into the wall nose first.

One thing I've noticed about Formula 1 is that when there's a crash, everybody loses their fucking tires. It's like they pop off like like loose ski bindings. The thing you have to worry about, even in a semi-protected cockpit, is a flying wheel going 200 + mph making any contact with your head. That's gotta hurt.

It all takes big balls. Can't drive like that at all afraid.

I was at a CART race at MIS some time back during which a wheel and some suspension components flew into the crowd and killed 3 people. The driver suffered only minor injuries. The car was able to bleed a lot of energy and save him from the impact he had with a wall.

The irony was that the cars had modified diffusers on them to slow them down. Paul Tracy had recorded a trap speed of 256 MPH at this track during a prior running of the event, and the gap between the fastest and the slowest cars was pretty wide. Anyway, the diffusers were meant to slow the cars down and make the race more competitive. This did lead to a very competitive race, but the cars were squirrelly with any flow disruption, even by a car attempting to draft, and this ultimately caused Adrian Fernandez to lose control of his car. Paul Tracy disrupted the air flow behind him and he slammed into a wall at about 200 mph. Scary shit with very bad consequences.

dflea

The wheels are tethered to the cars in F1 now.

Go have a look at the crash involving Robert Kubica in the Williams car at Montreal in 2007. Incredible amounts of speed and damage and a driver barely injured. F1 cars are TUFF.

Bianchi hit a safety truck. Not much safety in that truck, I'm afraid.

MisterEm

Bucket list for me. Good diversion, flea.