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Democrats and CNN starting early in screwing Bernie this cycle...

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  • MariotaTheGawdMariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    My solution is to get the feds out, reduce the medicare tax and let seniors die like they should.

    They used to saw off legs and arms with no morphine. We've gone soft

    you guys live such rich lives in retirement communities though
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    Retirement is for losers

    Never will
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    My solution is to get the feds out, reduce the medicare tax and let seniors die like they should.

    They used to saw off legs and arms with no morphine. We've gone soft

    But then we'd miss you here.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    Employer paid health insurance is stupid. Whoever came up with that genius idea? Companies hate it, employees hate it, everyone hates it.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    Employer paid health insurance is stupid. Whoever came up with that genius idea? Companies hate it, employees hate it, everyone hates it.

    It was implemented during WWII when the government instituted wage restrictions, on key war manufacturing businesses, as a means of cost control. Paying benefits became a way for businesses to attract employees without violating those wage restrictions.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    I gotta call BS on 70% of the people on employer plans actually like their insurance.

    I get it. If something really, really bad happens, you’re happy they’re paying hundreds of thousands of dollars while you’re only paying tens of thousands of $$$.

    But when it comes to the smaller issues, health insurance is about useless.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    salemcoog said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    I gotta call BS on 70% of the people on employer plans actually like their insurance.

    I get it. If something really, really bad happens, you’re happy they’re paying hundreds of thousands of dollars while you’re only paying tens of thousands of $$$.

    But when it comes to the smaller issues, health insurance is about useless.
    They may or may not like the employer part but they like choice not one size fits all shitty care

    The feds aren't spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on you

  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    edited March 2019

    salemcoog said:

    2020 presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Monday night that under his progressive “Medicare-for-all” proposal, Americans would not be able to keep existing health insurance coverage from private plans even if they wanted to do so.

    The Vermont senator told a CNN town hall that health care should be a “human right” and that the U.S. “shamefully” was the only major country on Earth “not to guarantee health care to all people.” He argued that the only “cost-effective” way to give all Americans health insurance would be with a “Medicare-for-all single-payer program.”

    CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer then pointed to statistics showing half of Americans get their health insurance through their employers and that a recent Gallup poll showed that 70 percent of those who get their insurance from their employers like it.

    “Will these people be able to keep their health insurance plans, their private plans through their employers, if there’s a 'Medicare-for-all' program that you endorse?” Blitzer asked.

    “No,” Sanders responded mid-question as he shook his head. “What will change in their plans is the color of their card. So, instead of having a Blue Cross/Blue Shield card, instead of having a United Health Insurance card, they're gonna have a Medicare card.”

    I gotta call BS on 70% of the people on employer plans actually like their insurance.

    I get it. If something really, really bad happens, you’re happy they’re paying hundreds of thousands of dollars while you’re only paying tens of thousands of $$$.

    But when it comes to the smaller issues, health insurance is about useless.
    They may or may not like the employer part but they like choice not one size fits all shitty care

    The feds aren't spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on you

    Health insurance being tied to your job hurts job mobility and screws over businesses. It's terrible.

    Heathcare is the main issue I disagree with you old faggots on. Shit needs to change. Just pay like 5 groups 10 million each (because the govt is retarded and some bored college kid would do it for a few cases of beer but whatevs) to make a chart of all the healthcare systems with cost to individual, cost to govt, and level of care.

    Then copy the best one. Get insurance companies out of it. Get a baseline healthcare for like routine stuff and disaster stuff then a supplemental for mroe specialized and higher care stuff.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    I didn't say it didn't need to change

    We heard it needed to change in 2008 and it changed for the worst

    What your advocating has nothing in common with what the dems want
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