I'll take a short break from insulting everyone in sight and ask a legit question

MariotaTheGawd

I'm curious about what the naysayers would consider to be an allowable level of criticism of AIPAC as a lobbying entity specifically and Israel in general as a nation-state. Money talks in the United States Congress, so if it's anti-Semitic to talk about the money that they spend to influence Congress because of historical caricatures about Jews and money, how does one even broach the topic? AIPAC is the largest foreign policy-related donor to congress at $3.5 million in 2018 (UNICEF is next at 744k), and they also pay for members to visit Israel. Is Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite for being critical of the way Israel treats the Palestinians? Does someone need to be Jewish in order to criticize Israel's government?

MariotaTheGawd

thread by a dude with experience with AIPAC

https://twitter.com/AdyBarkan/status/1095052879763656704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1095052879763656704&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231095052879763656704

greenblood

MariotaTheGawd said:

thread by a dude with experience with AIPAC

https://twitter.com/AdyBarkan/status/1095052879763656704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1095052879763656704&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231095052879763656704

So you quoted a guy that admits to being bought for a cool 5k...

Is that all it takes to buy support these days? If so, I’m in the wrong profession.

sarktastic

https://www.citybeat.com/news/news-feature/blog/21020927/he-launched-his-political-career-in-cincinnati-now-hes-fighting-for-health-care-access-while-battling-als

What I thought. Desperate times, desperate measures. Outlandish claims. You would think that after fighting for healthcare access he would have remembered to sign up.

sarktastic

LOL

Here’s the data on the campaign you worked on - Victoria Wulsin. She raised over $1 million in campaign contributions. A $5,000 campaign contribution from a pro-Israel donor did not make or break her campaign. This thread is a LIE
(link: https://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary?cycle=2006&id=OH02) opensecrets.org/races/summary?…

RaceBannon

Can white people criticize Blacks?

We're trying to play by your rules

If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic

If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue

SFGbob

MariotaTheGawd said:

I'm curious about what the naysayers would consider to be an allowable level of criticism of AIPAC as a lobbying entity specifically and Israel in general as a nation-state. Money talks in the United States Congress, so if it's anti-Semitic to talk about the money that they spend to influence Congress because of historical caricatures about Jews and money, how does one even broach the topic? AIPAC is the largest foreign policy-related donor to congress at $3.5 million in 2018 (UNICEF is next at 744k), and they also pay for members to visit Israel. Is Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite for being critical of the way Israel treats the Palestinians? Does someone need to be Jewish in order to criticize Israel's government?

You can criticize AIPAC all you like, but when you start claiming people only support Israel because of all the money they get from the Jews you've crossed the line.

I do find it interesting that the people who have such a problem with AIPAC are usually Muslim sympathizers who have no problem with the money being spent by pro-Pali outfits. Which tends to make me believe they don't really have a problem with PAC money but have a problem with Jewish PAC money.

And yes, Bernie is an anti-Semite. Bernie's god and religion is the state not Judaism.

TurdBomber

MariotaTheGawd said:

I'm curious about what the naysayers would consider to be an allowable level of criticism of AIPAC as a lobbying entity specifically and Israel in general as a nation-state. Money talks in the United States Congress, so if it's anti-Semitic to talk about the money that they spend to influence Congress because of historical caricatures about Jews and money, how does one even broach the topic? AIPAC is the largest foreign policy-related donor to congress at $3.5 million in 2018 (UNICEF is next at 744k), and they also pay for members to visit Israel. Is Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite for being critical of the way Israel treats the Palestinians? Does someone need to be Jewish in order to criticize Israel's government?

No. But it helps to not be Anti-Semitic while doing so. That appears to be your struggle.

PurpleJ

Didn't read. Kill yourself anyways.

HardlyClothed

SFGbob said:

MariotaTheGawd said:

I'm curious about what the naysayers would consider to be an allowable level of criticism of AIPAC as a lobbying entity specifically and Israel in general as a nation-state. Money talks in the United States Congress, so if it's anti-Semitic to talk about the money that they spend to influence Congress because of historical caricatures about Jews and money, how does one even broach the topic? AIPAC is the largest foreign policy-related donor to congress at $3.5 million in 2018 (UNICEF is next at 744k), and they also pay for members to visit Israel. Is Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite for being critical of the way Israel treats the Palestinians? Does someone need to be Jewish in order to criticize Israel's government?

You can criticize AIPAC all you like, but when you start claiming people only support Israel because of all the money they get from the Jews you've crossed the line.

I do find it interesting that the people who have such a problem with AIPAC are usually Muslim sympathizers who have no problem with the money being spent by pro-Pali outfits. Which tends to make me believe they don't really have a problem with PAC money but have a problem with Jewish PAC money.

And yes, Bernie is an anti-Semite. Bernie's god and religion is the state not Judaism.

There is no pro-Palestinian lobbying outfit that even comes close to rivaling the money and influence of AIPAC moron

HardlyClothed

RaceBannon said:

Can white people criticize Blacks?

We're trying to play by your rules

If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic

If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue

The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.

Pitchfork51

Joobs > palistinian boobs.

Kick all the Palestinians out and let them squabble with Egypt. Shoot on sight

MikeDamone

MariotaTheGawd said:

I'm curious about what the naysayers would consider to be an allowable level of criticism of AIPAC as a lobbying entity specifically and Israel in general as a nation-state. Money talks in the United States Congress, so if it's anti-Semitic to talk about the money that they spend to influence Congress because of historical caricatures about Jews and money, how does one even broach the topic? AIPAC is the largest foreign policy-related donor to congress at $3.5 million in 2018 (UNICEF is next at 744k), and they also pay for members to visit Israel. Is Bernie Sanders an anti-Semite for being critical of the way Israel treats the Palestinians? Does someone need to be Jewish in order to criticize Israel's government?

Who’s the fag in your avatar?

RaceBannon

HardlyClothed said:

RaceBannon said:

Can white people criticize Blacks?

We're trying to play by your rules

If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic

If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue

The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.

So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?

Check your timeline

It is because of Islam going back centuries

If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here

HillsboroDuck

I'm an unrelenting Zionist until I die and IDGAF what you guys think about it.

https://twitter.com/ArlosNicias/status/1095555284666183681

Sledog

Palestinians walked away from their homeland in 1947 because they hated the Jews. HTH

HardlyClothed

RaceBannon said:

HardlyClothed said:

RaceBannon said:

Can white people criticize Blacks?

We're trying to play by your rules

If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic

If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue

The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.

So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?

Check your timeline

It is because of Islam going back centuries

If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here

Support for Germany during the war wasn’t because they shared an ideology for wanting to exterminate the jews but because of French and British colonialism in the region following Sykes-Picot and British sponsorship of a Jewish state in Palestine from the Balfour declaration. Gandhi wrote friendly letters to Hitler for the same anti-colonial reasons.

Going back centuries there were plenty of Jewish communities living peacefully side by side with Muslims throughout the Ottoman Empire.

Not surprising you believe Bibi’s false narrative about the history of the conflict. He stepped in it by claiming that the Grand Mufti of Palestine gave Hitler the idea for the holocaust. You’re not far from making the same BS claims.

RaceBannon

Sure.gif

The Muslims are just innocent victims and its the JEWS that are at fault

Not surprising that you believe the horrible anti Semitic propaganda you can find all over the Middle East to this day

If the Palis want a state they know how to get it. They are holding out for the one state solution

NO deal

Sledog

HardlyClothed said:

RaceBannon said:

HardlyClothed said:

RaceBannon said:

Can white people criticize Blacks?

We're trying to play by your rules

If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic

If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue

The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.

So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?

Check your timeline

It is because of Islam going back centuries

If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here

Support for Germany during the war wasn’t because they shared an ideology for wanting to exterminate the jews but because of French and British colonialism in the region following Sykes-Picot and British sponsorship of a Jewish state in Palestine from the Balfour declaration. Gandhi wrote friendly letters to Hitler for the same anti-colonial reasons.

Going back centuries there were plenty of Jewish communities living peacefully side by side with Muslims throughout the Ottoman Empire.

Not surprising you believe Bibi’s false narrative about the history of the conflict. He stepped in it by claiming that the Grand Mufti of Palestine gave Hitler the idea for the holocaust. You’re not far from making the same BS claims.

Maybe you can explain why the majority of the Muslim world wants to exterminate the Jews then? And have actually tried several times?

2001400ex

Sledog said:

HardlyClothed said:

RaceBannon said:

HardlyClothed said:

RaceBannon said:

Can white people criticize Blacks?

We're trying to play by your rules

If you support the people who want to slaughter Jews you might be anti semitic

If you belong to a semitic religion that wants to slaughter Jews you are the issue

The origin of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is essentially a land dispute but actually every Muslim wants to slaughter Jews because Islam. Just bigoted bullshit from Race who has never even been to Israel.

So when the Muslims supported Hitler it was because of Israel?

Check your timeline

It is because of Islam going back centuries

If you can't even admit that then get the fuck out of here

Support for Germany during the war wasn’t because they shared an ideology for wanting to exterminate the jews but because of French and British colonialism in the region following Sykes-Picot and British sponsorship of a Jewish state in Palestine from the Balfour declaration. Gandhi wrote friendly letters to Hitler for the same anti-colonial reasons.

Going back centuries there were plenty of Jewish communities living peacefully side by side with Muslims throughout the Ottoman Empire.

Not surprising you believe Bibi’s false narrative about the history of the conflict. He stepped in it by claiming that the Grand Mufti of Palestine gave Hitler the idea for the holocaust. You’re not far from making the same BS claims.

Maybe you can explain why the majority of the Muslim world wants to exterminate the Jews then? And have actually tried several times?

You have said multiple times you want to exterminate Muslims. How are you any better?

RaceBannon

but but but