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  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,064 Swaye's Wigwam

    Baseman said:

    Cincinnati is said to be extremely high on WR Marcus Rosemy’s list of schools. If we secure him, ridder to rosemy might be the best connecting college football has seen in about 10 years. Were also more likely than not to lock down Justin Rogers and solidify our line for the next few years. Bearcats on the rise

    We have a Bearcats bored, you know?
    I am here to stay. Just asserting AAC dominance all over this bored.
    No one even knows what AAC stands for.

    "Dominance".
    Thanks for saying so.
  • bearcats6969bearcats6969 Member Posts: 77

    Baseman said:

    Cincinnati is said to be extremely high on WR Marcus Rosemy’s list of schools. If we secure him, ridder to rosemy might be the best connecting college football has seen in about 10 years. Were also more likely than not to lock down Justin Rogers and solidify our line for the next few years. Bearcats on the rise

    We have a Bearcats bored, you know?
    I am here to stay. Just asserting AAC dominance all over this bored.
    No one even knows what AAC stands for.

    "Dominance".
    You sound rattled
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,113 Swaye's Wigwam
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,113 Swaye's Wigwam

    It's not exactly a hot take to say 2020 is likely going be the most important recruiting class in UW history because of the high level in state (and former in state) recruits , but I think it's going to be a real test for this staff in more ways than just "can we close 5 stars with geographic ties?"

    Here is the current list of kids from what I'd consider the Pac 12 recruiting blueprint (Pac12 states plus Idaho, Nevada and Hawaii) who are currently ranked in 247's top 247. All of these kids are four stars. Obviously not all these kids will be recruited by UW and others not listed will be, somebody else can research deeper if you like. This is just a starter look at what will likely be the majority of top western kids in the class.

    Top 247 ranking (kids with UW offer in bold, kids UW is basically already out of it for in strikethrough, school committed to in parentheses)

    Smalls - 2
    Flowe - 4
    Ringo - 7
    Uigalelei - 9
    Milton - 10
    Ricks - 11
    (LSU)
    Jason Harris - 19 (top unoffered prospect on the list, Buck 'spect from Arizona where we've done pretty well, lets get in on him)
    Murao - 20
    Johnny Wilson - 21
    Bijan - 29
    Bryce Young - 39 (USC)
    Jermaine Burton - 54 (WR from Calabasasas, teammate of Johnny Wilson, why no offer??)
    Gee Jr - 58 (tOSU)
    Clark Phillips - 59
    Jay Butterfield - 71
    John Humphreys - 73
    Jack Miller - 86 (tOSU)
    Darvon Hubbard - 90 (tOSU)
    Botelho - 97
    McMillan - 103
    Bryant, JR - 105
    Reece Atteberry - 108
    Darion Green-Warren - 112 (OU)
    Damian Sellers - 126
    Brandon Jones - 136
    Jamar Sekona - 152
    Bryce Farrell - 153 (Stanford)
    Daniyel - 154
    Geirean - 165
    Jaden Navarette - 170
    Xavier Carlton - 173
    Noah Sewell - 177
    LV Bunkley-Shelton - 182
    Chad Johnson - 190
    Matt Sykes - 197
    Elijah Badger - 205
    Logan Loya - 213
    Kris Hutson - 215
    Ayden Hector - 217
    Andrew Gentry - 224
    Max Lenzy - 239
    DJ Rogers - 242 (*sniff sniff*) (don't look at his offer sheet, just don't)
    Justin Houston - 245
    Jared Greenfield - 246
    Sam Adams II - 247


    Out of area but has in state ties:
    Marcus Henderson - 82

    A few things of note:

    Either 247 is overrating WR or this is a generational WR class (abundance?). There are 47 (!) WRs in the top 247, or 1 of every 5.25 players. I know 2018 was similar but I don't remember the exact numbers. Crazy.

    13 of those WRs are in the Pac footprint states, so there are plenty of WRs out there in what will probably be a 4 WR class for UW.

    We have issued 23 offers to kids on this list. Of those 23 at least 5 are already not coming here (Uigalelai, Milton, Ricks, Young, Sewell). Of the remaining 18:

    Four are from Washington (Smalls, Hackett, Hector, Adams)
    Just two (!) are Polynesian (Murao, Botelho)
    At least twelve have at least one African American (or African in Ngata's case) parent.

    Obviously there are a ton of offers still to go out. But this has the potential to be either the blackest class Pete has recruited at UW or the most disappointing. The vast majority of early offers to highly rated western kids have gone out to African American kids. This was the right year to hire an African American WR coach, and to have Will Harris show his value. We have more African Americans on staff than at any point under Pete. They have a great opportunity to make us better this class.

    P.S. Obviously there are offers out there that aren't listed above. I'm not going to bother to list the Texas/OK offers until we get a feel for who we are really in on as the strategy there is obviously an outlier. Here are the other western offers:

    Jordan Banks (263)
    Nick Herbig (302) (whitey)
    Lathan Ransom (303) (how is he not top 247??) (217 by composite)
    Josh Jackson - 374 (242 by composite)
    Makell Esteen (402)
    Mark Redman - 403 (whitey)
    Dahlin Mesake (525) (Poly? Asian? Not sure here)
    Tosh Baker (527) (whitey?)
    Jeffrey Persi (574)
    Gaard Memmelaar (647) (viking) (commit)
    Rome Odunze - 782
    Ethan Garbers - 788 (whitey)

    So of the 12 other offers out there four are white kids, maybe one is Poly and the other 7 are mixed or African American.

    This class will be defined by our ability to close kids with at least one black parent. We won't be able to rely on getting all the Polys this time around, as there just do not appear to be enough of them in this next class, and two of the best (Uigalelei and Nowell) ain't coming here.

    Major level up challenge. Major level up opportunity.



    Top247 Update for @HillsboroDuck :

    Here is the current list of kids from what I'd consider the Pac 12 recruiting blueprint (Pac12 states plus Idaho, Nevada and Hawaii) who are currently ranked in 247's top 247. All of these kids are four stars. Obviously not all these kids will be recruited by UW and others not listed will be, somebody else can research deeper if you like. This is just a starter look at what will likely be the majority of top western kids in the class.


    I bolded the notable jumps or drops and got rid of dudes like DJ U that we have no shot at (kept Gee because he's a hometown kid).


    Smalls - Previous: 2 Current: 4
    Flowe - Previous:4 Current: 6
    Ringo - Previous: 7 Current: 11
    Milton - Previous: 10 Current: 22
    Jason Harris - Previous: 19 Current: 151
    Murao - Previous: 20 Current: 70
    Johnny Wilson - Previous: 21 Current: 32
    Bijan - Previous: 29 Current: 26
    Jermaine Burton - Previous: 54 Current: 34
    Gee Jr - Previous: 58 Current: 53
    Clark Phillips - Previous: 59 Current: 24
    John Humphreys - Previous: 73 Current: 76
    Botelho - Previous: 97 Current: 33
    McMillan - Previous: 103 Current: 30
    Bryant, JR - Previous: 105 Current: 49
    Reece Atteberry - Previous: 108 Current: 245
    Damian Sellers - Previous: 126 Current: 168
    Brandon Jones - Previous: 136 Current: 304
    Jamar Sekona - Previous: 152 Current: 203
    Daniyel - Previous: 154 Current: 71
    Geirean - 165 Current: 190
    Jaden Navarette - Previous: 170 Current: 223
    Xavier Carlton - Previous: 173 Current: 197
    Noah Sewell - Previous: 177 Current: 61
    LV Bunkley-Shelton - Previous: 182 Current: 237
    Chad Johnson - Previous: 190 Current: 233
    Matt Sykes - Previous: 197 Current: 225
    Elijah Badger - Previous: 205 Current: 214
    Logan Loya - Previous: 213 Current: 231
    Kris Hutson - Previous: 215 Current: 246
    Ayden Hector - Previous: 217 Current: 185
    Andrew Gentry - Previous: 224 Current: 77
    Max Lenzy - Previous: 239 Current: 260
    DJ Rogers - Previous 242 Current: 263
    Justin Houston - Previous: 245 Current: 264
    Jared Greenfield - Previous: 246 Current: 265
    Sam Adams II - 247 Current: 100
    Levi Rogers - 509 Current: 165


    Out of area but has in state ties:
    Marcus Henderson - Previous: 82 Current: 545


    P.S. Obviously there are offers out there that aren't listed above. I'm not going to bother to list the Texas/OK offers until we get a feel for who we are really in on as the strategy there is obviously an outlier. Here are the other western offers:

    Jordan Banks - Previous: 263 Current: 135
    Nick Herbig - Previous: 302 Current: 97
    Lathan Ransom - Previous: 303 Current: 50

    Josh Jackson - Previous: 374 Current: 433
    Makell Esteen - Previous: 402 Current: 470
    Mark Redman - Previous: 403 Current: 471
    Dahlin Mesake - Previous: 525 Current: 961
    Tosh Baker - Previous: 527 Current: 54

    Jeffrey Persi - Previous: 574 Current: 716
    Noah Nelson - Preivous: 579 Current: 647
    Ben Yurosek - Previous: 620 Current: 720
    Gaard Memmelaar - Previous: 647 Current: 792
    Rome Odunze - Previous: 782 Current: 207
    Ethan Garbers - Previous: 788 Current: 964
    TYFYS.

    Some huge positive jumps for a few guys we complained about.

    Overall I feel like less than 5 guys in 247’s top 100 would have me a little disappointed.

    I want the TE/DE b-ball player from AZ. Hop will close him.

    Honestly, I’m just really sick of seeing brownsocks in our top 25 historical recruits. As long as we have 8 guys ranked .9634 or more in the next two classes, I’ll be happy as he’ll be out of the carousel FOREVER.
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,630 Swaye's Wigwam
    Tosh Baker and Rome Odunze eat some Wheaties or something? And do they make Wheaties entirely out of Rhino cum now?
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,113 Swaye's Wigwam
  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,497 Founders Club


    Can someone smart use this graphic overlaid against our offer list to tell me who our focus guys are? TIA
  • 1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,630 Swaye's Wigwam
    Also, surprising amount of resources being expended in Texas. Hope it's worth it.
  • DomicilloDomicillo Member Posts: 3,025
    Swaye said:


    Can someone smart use this graphic overlaid against our offer list to tell me who our focus guys are? TIA
    I can work on that tonight if no one else does. A lot of these trips are focused on guys we haven’t offered yet too
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,113 Swaye's Wigwam
    Domicillo said:

    Swaye said:


    Can someone smart use this graphic overlaid against our offer list to tell me who our focus guys are? TIA
    I can work on that tonight if no one else does. A lot of these trips are focused on guys we haven’t offered yet too
    TYI(advance)FYS
  • RealRhinoRealRhino Member Posts: 615

    Also, surprising amount of resources being expended in Texas. Hope it's worth it.

    I know it's been debated, but I like it. Since this seems to be a safe space to talk about race, I'll just say that if we want to get large black men to play on the lines, we likely aren't going to get them from WA, OR or HI. We've basically got CA and the South/Texas. And CA is losing numbers in terms of kids playing big time football through high school. As far as I know, TX is not. Think Pete is looking at the future and knows we have to lay that foundation. Can't rely on all Poly, IMO.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,998 Founders Club
    Malibu High cancelled football

    More kids turned out for the surf team
  • RealRhinoRealRhino Member Posts: 615
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