I have one very close friend and one close coworker who both fled Venezuela to come to the US with their families. It's fun to hear people hand wave their experiences as invalid.
I have one very close friend and one close coworker who both fled Venezuela to come to the US with their families. It's fun to hear people hand wave their experiences as invalid.
It's always some dumbass white with no clue who knows more than you even though you lived it for years and they saw it on MSNBC once.
I have one very close friend and one close coworker who both fled Venezuela to come to the US with their families. It's fun to hear people hand wave their experiences as invalid.
The majority of people have always said the country is on the wrong track. Surprise...angry people are louder than satisfied people.
So don’t listen to the people living through it. Got it.
Whatever argument you've gotta make to invalidate an entire section of history and current affairs right? Conflate, deflect, red herring, etc.
Ideology at it's finest.
As opposed to the anecdotal evidence you provided in this thread? Or the YouTube video in this thread that destroys socialism using facts and logic?
I’m not making an argument, I’m just bored with your shitty repetitive ones. That shit works vs moderate Democrats. I don’t care how many times you say it, it doesn’t make it true.
The good news is we’ll either do it my way or we’ll destroy the country and I’ll get to hear you guys bitch that it’s because we weren’t capitalist enough. Either way, it’ll be interesting.
As I believe Race said earlier this week, @allpurpleallgold is a true believer. I throw ze a chin or upvote in respect for that, and the hope that when ze gets a Central Party post that ze will pass me smokes through the fence.
The majority of people have always said the country is on the wrong track. Surprise...angry people are louder than satisfied people.
So don’t listen to the people living through it. Got it.
Whatever argument you've gotta make to invalidate an entire section of history and current affairs right? Conflate, deflect, red herring, etc.
Ideology at it's finest.
As opposed to the anecdotal evidence you provided in this thread? Or the YouTube video in this thread that destroys socialism using facts and logic?
I’m not making an argument, I’m just bored with your shitty repetitive ones. That shit works vs moderate Democrats. I don’t care how many times you say it, it doesn’t make it true.
The good news is we’ll either do it my way or we’ll destroy the country and I’ll get to hear you guys bitch that it’s because we weren’t capitalist enough. Either way, it’ll be interesting.
Ah, you want to talk libertarian socialism? Or maybe even AnSoc?
Here's the thing, in this country, right now, you are 100% free to practice voluntary socialism. Non-profits, communes, collectives, and organized labor are all examples of your freedom to practice collectivism.
So why hasn't it taken over? Why aren't you living that way right now? If it's part of a natural evolution and more efficient then why hasn't it already consumed the free market? There's nothing about a free market that prevents such a thing. In a liberal society collectivists are free to collect all they want. So why aren't they?
If, you believe socialism doesn't work unless you force people to engage in it then the onus is on you to explain why that is if it is in fact superior or more efficient. Also, congrats, you are no longer talking about libertarian socialism or AnSoc. You are what's known as a watermelon.
The majority of people have always said the country is on the wrong track. Surprise...angry people are louder than satisfied people.
So don’t listen to the people living through it. Got it.
Whatever argument you've gotta make to invalidate an entire section of history and current affairs right? Conflate, deflect, red herring, etc.
Ideology at it's finest.
As opposed to the anecdotal evidence you provided in this thread? Or the YouTube video in this thread that destroys socialism using facts and logic?
I’m not making an argument, I’m just bored with your shitty repetitive ones. That shit works vs moderate Democrats. I don’t care how many times you say it, it doesn’t make it true.
The good news is we’ll either do it my way or we’ll destroy the country and I’ll get to hear you guys bitch that it’s because we weren’t capitalist enough. Either way, it’ll be interesting.
Ah, you want to talk libertarian socialism? Or maybe even AnSoc?
Here's the thing, in this country, right now, you are 100% free to practice voluntary socialism. Non-profits, communes, collectives, and organized labor are all examples of your freedom to practice collectivism.
So why hasn't it taken over? Why aren't you living that way right now? If it's part of a natural evolution and more efficient then why hasn't it already consumed the free market? There's nothing about a free market that prevents such a thing. In a liberal society collectivists are free to collect all they want. So why aren't they?
If, you believe socialism doesn't work unless you force people to engage in it then the onus is on you to explain why that is if it is in fact superior or more efficient. Also, congrats, you are no longer talking about libertarian socialism or AnSoc. You are what's known as a watermelon.
If you are AnSoc or libertarian socialist(or even really anywhere in the centrist bubble but you say you aren't) then you and I don't really have issues, we just want a liberal enough society to live as we please(within respect for other people's rights) and statists on both sides of the isle are who we should be voting against. I have lots of these friends in fact, it's a popular position among punk rockers and artists after all.
If you are a statist,(and I really don't care which side of isle you are on) then fuck off! What gives you the right to ignore other people's rights? Or maybe you are an honest communist who doesn't believe in individual rights?
As a good classical liberal I actually even have friends who are real communists who would probably round me up into a re-education camp if given the chance. Lucky for them, they live in a liberal enough society to hold such radical beliefs.
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Yeah compassionate socialism is the best!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/1492940002
It's all fun and games until your the one standing at the edge of a pit in front of a machine gun.
Idiots.
Listen to the people living through it.
Ideology at it's finest.
I’m not making an argument, I’m just bored with your shitty repetitive ones. That shit works vs moderate Democrats. I don’t care how many times you say it, it doesn’t make it true.
The good news is we’ll either do it my way or we’ll destroy the country and I’ll get to hear you guys bitch that it’s because we weren’t capitalist enough. Either way, it’ll be interesting.
Here's the thing, in this country, right now, you are 100% free to practice voluntary socialism. Non-profits, communes, collectives, and organized labor are all examples of your freedom to practice collectivism.
So why hasn't it taken over? Why aren't you living that way right now? If it's part of a natural evolution and more efficient then why hasn't it already consumed the free market? There's nothing about a free market that prevents such a thing. In a liberal society collectivists are free to collect all they want. So why aren't they?
If, you believe socialism doesn't work unless you force people to engage in it then the onus is on you to explain why that is if it is in fact superior or more efficient. Also, congrats, you are no longer talking about libertarian socialism or AnSoc. You are what's known as a watermelon.
If you are a statist,(and I really don't care which side of isle you are on) then fuck off! What gives you the right to ignore other people's rights? Or maybe you are an honest communist who doesn't believe in individual rights?
As a good classical liberal I actually even have friends who are real communists who would probably round me up into a re-education camp if given the chance. Lucky for them, they live in a liberal enough society to hold such radical beliefs.