Cost shifting and the price of Government backed healthcare.

SFGbob

As it is right now Medicare doesn't cover the costs of many medical procedures. It's why many doctors are already refusing to see Medicare patients. Medicaid is even worse when it comes to covering the costs incurred and thus even few doctors will agree to see Medicaid covered patients.

Now, what happens when you give "Medicare for all" and you no longer have the Private sector covering the costs of that the government already isn't paying for?

What happens to the cost when all the people already on Medicaid are put into the Medicare system?

You still think this saves the government money dumbfucks?

What you're going to have are scores of doctors in private practices who don't work for large hospitals quitting. They aren't going to work at a loss. And then what happens to access to healthcare? Do wait times get shorter or longer?

allpurpleallgold

Thimk about how dumb you have to be to think, in the country with highest healthcare costs per capita, that costs will go up if you implement the system that all the countries that spend less than you use.

Bob, you couldn’t figure out what a median was yesterday but you solved this one?

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

As it is right now Medicare doesn't cover the costs of many medical procedures. It's why many doctors are already refusing to see Medicare patients. Medicaid is even worse when it comes to covering the costs incurred and thus even few doctors will agree to see Medicaid covered patients.

Now, what happens when you give "Medicare for all" and you no longer have the Private sector covering the costs of that the government already isn't paying for?

What happens to the cost when all the people already on Medicaid are put into the Medicare system?

You still think this saves the government money dumbfucks?

What you're going to have are scores of doctors in private practices who don't work for large hospitals quitting. They aren't going to work at a loss. And then what happens to access to healthcare? Do wait times get shorter or longer?

This has been discussed and answered. At least now you know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid. That you didn't a couple days ago.

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

As it is right now Medicare doesn't cover the costs of many medical procedures. It's why many doctors are already refusing to see Medicare patients. Medicaid is even worse when it comes to covering the costs incurred and thus even few doctors will agree to see Medicaid covered patients.

Now, what happens when you give "Medicare for all" and you no longer have the Private sector covering the costs of that the government already isn't paying for?

What happens to the cost when all the people already on Medicaid are put into the Medicare system?

You still think this saves the government money dumbfucks?

What you're going to have are scores of doctors in private practices who don't work for large hospitals quitting. They aren't going to work at a loss. And then what happens to access to healthcare? Do wait times get shorter or longer?

This has been discussed and answered. At least now you know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid. That you didn't a couple days ago.

Poor reading comprehension once again from Hondo the stupid Kunt.

SFGbob

allpurpleallgold said:

Thimk about how dumb you have to be to think, in the country with highest healthcare costs per capita, that costs will go up if you implement the system that all the countries that spend less than you use.

Bob, you couldn’t figure out what a median was yesterday but you solved this one?

Think about how fucking dumb you have to be in order to think that adding millions of new people to our healthcare system won't increase waiting times to see a doctor.

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

allpurpleallgold said:

Thimk about how dumb you have to be to think, in the country with highest healthcare costs per capita, that costs will go up if you implement the system that all the countries that spend less than you use.

Bob, you couldn’t figure out what a median was yesterday but you solved this one?

Think about how fucking dumb you have to be in order to think that adding millions of new people to our healthcare system won't increase waiting times to see a doctor.

I know right. I'm hearing that preventive care doesn't work under a governmental system.

Rubberfist

Hey Bob, does anything here look off to you? I’m sure with all of the $$ we’re spending that our healthcare outcomes are superior to the rest of the world.

SFGbob

Yeah, the private sector is propping up the parasites on the public teat.


The largest healthcare expense for nearly every individual comes in the last few years of life. Countries like the Netherlands don't worry about that because they just euthanize their sick elderly.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/through-euthanasia-doctors-now-cause-a-quarter-of-all-dutch-deaths

We spend more on healthcare because we can. We probably spend more on our pets than other countries as well. The problem with our healthcare system is on account of government interference in the market place.

Medicare for all will ensure that most people other than those who can afford to pay for a private care system, will end up with a Medicaid level of health coverage.

Rubberfist

So if the Netherlands is just killing off their elderly how come they are ranked 14th in avg life expectancy and we rank 31st? We rank behind such economic powerhouses such as Chile, Costa Rica, Cyprus and Slovenia.

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

Yeah, the private sector is propping up the parasites on the public teat.


The largest healthcare expense for nearly every individual comes in the last few years of life. Countries like the Netherlands don't worry about that because they just euthanize their sick elderly.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/through-euthanasia-doctors-now-cause-a-quarter-of-all-dutch-deaths

We spend more on healthcare because we can. We probably spend more on our pets than other countries as well. The problem with our healthcare system is on account of government interference in the market place.

Medicare for all will ensure that most people other than those who can afford to pay for a private care system, will end up with a Medicaid level of health coverage.

So are you going to answer the question about the chart or not?

SFGbob

Rubberfist said:

So if the Netherlands is just killing off their elderly how come they are ranked 14th in avg life expectancy and we rank 31st? We rank behind such economic powerhouses such as Chile, Costa Rica, Cyprus and Slovenia.

Life expectancy numbers are often fudged. Most all other countries do not count a baby who dies in child birth against their life expectancy numbers. Many, many things go into life expectancy other than healthcare.

16 year old's in Chicago shooting each other aren't good for life expectancy. An opioid epidemic isn't good for life expectancy. Americans being fat as fuck isn't good for life expectancy. None of these have much to do with quality of our healthcare.

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

Yeah, the private sector is propping up the parasites on the public teat.


The largest healthcare expense for nearly every individual comes in the last few years of life. Countries like the Netherlands don't worry about that because they just euthanize their sick elderly.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/through-euthanasia-doctors-now-cause-a-quarter-of-all-dutch-deaths

We spend more on healthcare because we can. We probably spend more on our pets than other countries as well. The problem with our healthcare system is on account of government interference in the market place.

Medicare for all will ensure that most people other than those who can afford to pay for a private care system, will end up with a Medicaid level of health coverage.

So are you going to answer the question about the chart or not?

Reading comprehensions sucks as usual Hondo.

Rubberfist

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

Yeah, the private sector is propping up the parasites on the public teat.


The largest healthcare expense for nearly every individual comes in the last few years of life. Countries like the Netherlands don't worry about that because they just euthanize their sick elderly.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/through-euthanasia-doctors-now-cause-a-quarter-of-all-dutch-deaths

We spend more on healthcare because we can. We probably spend more on our pets than other countries as well. The problem with our healthcare system is on account of government interference in the market place.

Medicare for all will ensure that most people other than those who can afford to pay for a private care system, will end up with a Medicaid level of health coverage.

So are you going to answer the question about the chart or not?

Reading comprehensions sucks as usual Hondo.

Lol, we also rank 27th in infant mortality rate behind fucking Slovakia! So I guess that shoots down the babies dying at child birth bullshit.

The question about our healthcare industry isn’t quality it’s that we pay so much more and get absolutely zero extra benefit when compared to countries that have a single payer systems.

There is a reason that there is no push by the citizens of countries that have single payer to move to our system. It’s not because they are stupid parasites sucking off the public teat.

SFGbob

Because Slovakia doesn't count a baby born in child birth or a still born baby as a death dumbfuck.

SFGbob

You're comparing apples to dog shit.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2011/09/infant-mortality-deceptive-statistic-scott-w-atlas/

Rubberfist

SFGbob said:

Because Slovakia doesn't count a baby born in child birth or a still born baby as a death dumbfuck.

Wait, so all of the countries that rank ahead of us fudge their numbers by not including the very rare occurrence of stillbirths? Those bastards!

Rubberfist

To get back on point Bob, we spend almost $3k per capita more than the second biggest spender in outlays toward healthcare. What exactly are we getting for the extra $$.

If that $$ is so well spent why aren’t other countries trying to emulate us?

Blu82

I can't wait for the left tells us why our public education system is crap.

I bet Hondo has charts!

RaceBannon

Rubberfist said:

To get back on point Bob, we spend almost $3k per capita more than the second biggest spender in outlays toward healthcare. What exactly are we getting for the extra $$.

If that $$ is so well spent why aren’t other countries trying to emulate us?

Its because its fucked on delivery not care

Let's not make it more expensive and fuck the care

Thanks

SFGbob

Rubberfist said:

SFGbob said:

Because Slovakia doesn't count a baby born in child birth or a still born baby as a death dumbfuck.

Wait, so all of the countries that rank ahead of us fudge their numbers by not including the very rare occurrence of stillbirths? Those bastards!

Wow, it's almost like you intentionally ignored the article I linked.

Rubberfist

SFGbob said:

Rubberfist said:

SFGbob said:

Because Slovakia doesn't count a baby born in child birth or a still born baby as a death dumbfuck.

Wait, so all of the countries that rank ahead of us fudge their numbers by not including the very rare occurrence of stillbirths? Those bastards!

Wow, it's almost like you intentionally ignored the article I linked.

I read the article a few years ago. Used to have a subscription to NR.