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greenblood

RoadDawg55 said:

Edgar over Barry Bonds is a joke.

Let's be honest, there's a difference in the voter's mind between quietly alleged HGH use and confirmed HGH use. Also, as mentioned, Bonds didn't do himself any favors by being a complete dick to the media. Some advice: If you want to get voted into the Hall of Fame, it might be a good idea to have the people that vote not hate you.

I personally believe the MLB has been tainted since the late 70's when amphetamines were the craze.

Bonds, Clemens, Arod, McGwire, and Sosa should all get in. Once that happens we can move on and then start judging careers of future retirees with a different bar.

The Hall hasn't been sacred for a long time. Also, let's not forget how much damage the Veteran's Committee has done, by inducting "feel good, try hard story" guys, that don't have resumes even close to what should be Hall of Fame worthy.

El_K

Let Fred McGriff in the HoF

DerekJohnson

HillsboroDuck said:

RoadDawg55 said:

Edgar over Barry Bonds is a joke.

Obviously Bonds deserves to be in (with 100% vote), but that's a different question.

The HOF is kind of irrelevant until the Bonds/Clemens/McGwires get in though.

Still, Edgar should have been in a long time ago.

I don't think Bonds/Clemens/McGwire OR Edgar deserve to be in there.

HillsboroDuck

DerekJohnson said:

HillsboroDuck said:

RoadDawg55 said:

Edgar over Barry Bonds is a joke.

Obviously Bonds deserves to be in (with 100% vote), but that's a different question.

The HOF is kind of irrelevant until the Bonds/Clemens/McGwires get in though.

Still, Edgar should have been in a long time ago.

I don't think Bonds/Clemens/McGwire OR Edgar deserve to be in there.

We'll add this to Jacob Sirmon as the list of things you and Sven agree on.