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2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
Are saying that Trump to agree to extend DACA in exchange for wall funding. Kinda funny when you realize that the supreme Court isn't going to take up a case that would end DACA so Trump couldn't end it anyway. In other words, Trump is still giving nothing to get something in his eternal quest for a zero sum game.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?noredirect=on

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  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    did we really need another thread on this same exact topic?
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,154 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Are saying that Trump to agree to extend DACA in exchange for wall funding. Kinda funny when you realize that the supreme Court isn't going to take up a case that would end DACA so Trump couldn't end it anyway. In other words, Trump is still giving nothing to get something in his eternal quest for a zero sum game.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?noredirect=on

    That doesn't square with the myth Trump isn't a great negotiator.

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Are saying that Trump to agree to extend DACA in exchange for wall funding. Kinda funny when you realize that the supreme Court isn't going to take up a case that would end DACA so Trump couldn't end it anyway. In other words, Trump is still giving nothing to get something in his eternal quest for a zero sum game.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?noredirect=on

    That doesn't square with the myth Trump isn't a great negotiator.

    Trump is a great negotiator in the real estate world where there's always another deal, deals work when there's a winner and a loser, and he can buy his way out of stupid shit. That's not how it works in the government world.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,154 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are saying that Trump to agree to extend DACA in exchange for wall funding. Kinda funny when you realize that the supreme Court isn't going to take up a case that would end DACA so Trump couldn't end it anyway. In other words, Trump is still giving nothing to get something in his eternal quest for a zero sum game.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?noredirect=on

    That doesn't square with the myth Trump isn't a great negotiator.

    Trump is a great negotiator in the real estate world where there's always another deal, deals work when there's a winner and a loser, and he can buy his way out of stupid shit. That's not how it works in the government world.
    True. In the government world, they just tack it on to the never ending government debt.

    And you are so naive if you don't think there are winners and losers in the government world. So naive. There is far more winning and losing in the government work than in the private sector. That's all these political fucks care about. Go watch some West Wing or House of Cards - that's not too far from the truth.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are saying that Trump to agree to extend DACA in exchange for wall funding. Kinda funny when you realize that the supreme Court isn't going to take up a case that would end DACA so Trump couldn't end it anyway. In other words, Trump is still giving nothing to get something in his eternal quest for a zero sum game.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?noredirect=on

    That doesn't square with the myth Trump isn't a great negotiator.

    Trump is a great negotiator in the real estate world where there's always another deal, deals work when there's a winner and a loser, and he can buy his way out of stupid shit. That's not how it works in the government world.
    Yeah, listen to the dumbfuck who didn't know that Social Security existed in the 1950s and who thinks there are no differences between payroll taxes and income taxes and that we only allow 60K legal immigrants a year into this country. He "knows" how shit works.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Are saying that Trump to agree to extend DACA in exchange for wall funding. Kinda funny when you realize that the supreme Court isn't going to take up a case that would end DACA so Trump couldn't end it anyway. In other words, Trump is still giving nothing to get something in his eternal quest for a zero sum game.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?noredirect=on

    That doesn't square with the myth Trump isn't a great negotiator.

    Trump is a great negotiator in the real estate world where there's always another deal, deals work when there's a winner and a loser, and he can buy his way out of stupid shit. That's not how it works in the government world.
    True. In the government world, they just tack it on to the never ending government debt.

    And you are so naive if you don't think there are winners and losers in the government world. So naive. There is far more winning and losing in the government work than in the private sector. That's all these political fucks care about. Go watch some West Wing or House of Cards - that's not too far from the truth.
    That's not what I mean by a winner and loser. In the real estate world, Trump only does a deal when he's perceived to be the winner. If he can't get there in negotiation, he walks and finds another deal, of which there are hundreds of them. In the government world, you can't just walk and find something else, this deal needs to be negotiated and rarely do you have the leverage to get everything you want.

    If you want evidence of that, look at the abortion that was Obamacare.

    And in house of cards, which there is a lot of truth in, behind the scenes you blackmail people and shit to win. You can't do that as the president, where every move is tracked. Although that makes good TV.
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,927 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Are saying that Trump to agree to extend DACA in exchange for wall funding. Kinda funny when you realize that the supreme Court isn't going to take up a case that would end DACA so Trump couldn't end it anyway. In other words, Trump is still giving nothing to get something in his eternal quest for a zero sum game.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?noredirect=on

    Leave it to the dumb fucking #clockworkshill to complain about what should have happened all along.
  • LebamDawgLebamDawg Member Posts: 8,712 Standard Supporter
    I solve problems by ignoring them - they all go away eventually or I will. This is how most politicians deal with issues also
  • pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 20,927 Founders Club

    I'm confused HondoFS. You seem to have time to poast new threads but you seem to have forgotten about your thread yesterday about how Trump was going to get impeached. Amazing too how you can afford to fly around and talk about TSA lines but you can't seem to afford to pitch in to pay the light bill around here.

    Almost like you are a low IQ lying sack of shite or something...

    And since you are a moron, I realize you don't understand that the WP saying the SC "signaled it might not" does not mean in any way, shape for form the definitive "isn't going to" and ruling against Trump you interpreted with your speed limit IQ (they could take the case and rule one way or another, they could not and send it to back to the lower court with guidance one way or another on things to interpret, etc...).

    HondoFS...

    He’s a fucking liar. There is your answer. He won’t donate here. He claims to be “successful”. Yet he is here seemingly 24/7. Not an hour goes by when this retard won’t post. The only conclusion is he doesn’t do much else.
    His "successful" Montana burger stand.

    read: he flips burgers at mcdonalds


  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    I'm confused HondoFS. You seem to have time to poast new threads but you seem to have forgotten about your thread yesterday about how Trump was going to get impeached. Amazing too how you can afford to fly around and talk about TSA lines but you can't seem to afford to pitch in to pay the light bill around here.

    Almost like you are a low IQ lying sack of shite or something...

    And since you are a moron, I realize you don't understand that the WP saying the SC "signaled it might not" does not mean in any way, shape for form the definitive "isn't going to" and ruling against Trump you interpreted with your speed limit IQ (they could take the case and rule one way or another, they could not and send it to back to the lower court with guidance one way or another on things to interpret, etc...).

    HondoFS...

    Where did I say he was going to be impeached? Read what I post. You have me confused with someone else.

    And to be clear. If I post a link to someone else saying that, that doesn't mean I'm saying it. That's like when I post what Trump says, that is me saying I agree with it. I post that shit to trigger people like you and it works.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    2001400ex said:

    I'm confused HondoFS. You seem to have time to poast new threads but you seem to have forgotten about your thread yesterday about how Trump was going to get impeached. Amazing too how you can afford to fly around and talk about TSA lines but you can't seem to afford to pitch in to pay the light bill around here.

    Almost like you are a low IQ lying sack of shite or something...

    And since you are a moron, I realize you don't understand that the WP saying the SC "signaled it might not" does not mean in any way, shape for form the definitive "isn't going to" and ruling against Trump you interpreted with your speed limit IQ (they could take the case and rule one way or another, they could not and send it to back to the lower court with guidance one way or another on things to interpret, etc...).

    HondoFS...

    Where did I say he was going to be impeached? Read what I post. You have me confused with someone else.

    And to be clear. If I post a link to someone else saying that, that doesn't mean I'm saying it. That's like when I post what Trump says, that is me saying I agree with it. I post that shit to trigger people like you and it works.
    He didn’t say you said Trump was going to be impeached. He said you started a thread about it. Christ, can you fucking read?
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