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Collusion update

insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/17/rudy-giuliani-just-contradicted-nearly-all-trump-teams-past-collusion-denials/?utm_term=.1baa05ea0050

To recap on how much the goalposts have moved on the extent of Russian interference and collusion:
  • Russia didn't interfere in the election. No collusion!
  • OK, they interfered, but there were no contacts between Russia and the Trump Campaign. No collusion!
  • OK, there were contacts, but Trump didn't have any deals with Russia. No collusion!
  • OK, Trump had deals with Russia, but it's not like there were meetings with Russian intelligence agents. No collusion!
  • OK, There were meetings with Russian intelligence agents, but Trump didn't know about them. No collusion!
  • OK, Trump knew, but nothing came of them, so there was no collusion. No collusion!
  • OK, there was some collusion in the campaign. But Trump specifically didn't collude!
And despite all this, SledogFS and RaceFS somehow still believe the Dems were the ones who colluded with Russia.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    Where did Steele get the information from that he put in his dossier? Who paid Steele to compile the dossier? Don't hurt yourself dodging the question.


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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Where did Steele get the information from that he put in his dossier? Who paid Steele to compile the dossier? Don't hurt yourself dodging the question.


    Fusion had been hired to get information on Trump during the primaries by a Republican media firm, Washington Free Beacon. When Trump became the Republican nominee, the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party began picking up the tab for the Fusion research. Fusion owner Glenn Simpson hired Steele, a Russia expert, to gather information from his sources in Russia.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/fbi-releases-documents-showing-payments-trump-dossier-author-steele-n897506

    Now that that stupid irrelevant shit is out of the way. You going to comment on the post?
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    Where did Steel get his information from Hondo? I love how questions that make your Kunt hurt are "irrelevant." I did comment on his post.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.
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  • Dude61Dude61 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,250 Swaye's Wigwam
    Dossier Shocker: Top DOJ Official Sounded Alarm, Warned Of Clinton Connection And Possible Bias


    The Justice Department was fully aware that the notorious Steele Dossier was connected to Hillary Clinton and might be biased - a crucial detail which was omitted just weeks later from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant used to spy on the Trump campaign, reports John Solomon of The Hill.


    Bruce Ohr
    According to Solomon's sources - which have proven impeccable, the former #4 Department of Justice (DOJ) official, Bruce Ohr - who had extensive contact with Steele, briefed "both senior FBI and DOJ officials in summer 2016 about Christopher Steele's Russia dossier, explicitly cautioning that the British intelligence operative's work was opposition research connected to Hillary Clinton's campaign and might be biased."

    Ohr’s activities, chronicled in handwritten notes and congressional testimony I gleaned from sources, provide the most damning evidence to date that FBI and DOJ officials may have misled federal judges in October 2016 in their zeal to obtain the warrant targeting Trump adviser Carter Page just weeks before Election Day. -The Hill

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-16/doj-official-sounded-alarm-over-steele-dossier-warned-officials-clinton-connection
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  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    The irony
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  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    You shhhhhushhh.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    This conversation is about Trump collusion. It's obvious you care about Hillary's collusion with the Russians. Why don't you have the same passion for Trump's Collusion?
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    They knew it was opposition research paid for by the DNC and the Hillary campaign and the knew that none of it had been verified. They intentionally kept themselves in the dark in order to maintain plausible deniability. That's the game Comey has been playing from the very beginning. And it's the same game Rosenstein and Sally Yates are playing when they signed off on the renewing the FISA warrants.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    This conversation is about Trump collusion. It's obvious you care about Hillary's collusion with the Russians. Why don't you have the same passion for Trump's Collusion?
    Where's the collusion? Where's your evidence? There's plenty of evidence that Hillary did collude with the Russians. Where's your evidence that Trump did?
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    insinceredawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    The irony
    Show me the collusion between Trump and the Russians. Your word isn't evidence Kunt.

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  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    This conversation is about Trump collusion. It's obvious you care about Hillary's collusion with the Russians. Why don't you have the same passion for Trump's Collusion?
    Where's the collusion? Where's your evidence? There's plenty of evidence that Hillary did collude with the Russians. Where's your evidence that Trump did?
    Lol. Trump's lawyer all but implied his campaign colluded with Russia. But go ahead, continue parroting far right conspiracy theories Gay Bob.
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  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    This conversation is about Trump collusion. It's obvious you care about Hillary's collusion with the Russians. Why don't you have the same passion for Trump's Collusion?
    Where's the collusion? Where's your evidence? There's plenty of evidence that Hillary did collude with the Russians. Where's your evidence that Trump did?
    Read the original post. From Trump's and Guliani's own words.

    I do love those that can only talk about Hillary on a post about Trump. And Guliani lying.
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  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    insinceredawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    The irony
    Exactly the point.
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    edited January 2019
    insinceredawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    This conversation is about Trump collusion. It's obvious you care about Hillary's collusion with the Russians. Why don't you have the same passion for Trump's Collusion?
    Where's the collusion? Where's your evidence? There's plenty of evidence that Hillary did collude with the Russians. Where's your evidence that Trump did?
    Lol. Trump's lawyer all but implied his campaign colluded with Russia. But go ahead, continue parroting far right conspiracy theories Gay Bob.
    All but implied!!!! My, now there's some evidence. What's my conspiracy theories Kunt? Are you denying that Hillary paid for the dossier and that the dossier was used as the basis for the FISA warrants? That's hardly a conspiracy Kunt but you are an ignorant motherfucker so I can understand why you'd claim that.
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  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    insinceredawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    The irony
    Show me the collusion between Trump and the Russians. Your word isn't evidence Kunt.

    Go read this book and educate yourself
    https://www.amazon.com/Proof-Collusion-Trump-Betrayed-America-ebook/dp/B07GZ4MR77
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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,072
    Go
    insinceredawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    insinceredawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    The irony
    Show me the collusion between Trump and the Russians. Your word isn't evidence Kunt.

    Go read this book and educate yourself
    https://www.amazon.com/Proof-Collusion-Trump-Betrayed-America-ebook/dp/B07GZ4MR77
    Yeah, I'll go read a book that you haven't read in order for you to be able to back up your fucking mouth.

    I believe you're all but implying you're a dumbfuck insincere
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  • insinceredawginsinceredawg Member Posts: 5,117
    SFGbob said:

    Go

    insinceredawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    insinceredawg said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hillary paid a foreign agent to collude with Russians that had ties to Putin to get dirt on Trump. That information was then used in order to spy on the Trump campaign and was used as a basis to open up an investigation on Trump.

    And none of you Kunts give a fucking shit about it. You don't care about collusion with the Russians when have it staring you right in the face.

    The irony
    Show me the collusion between Trump and the Russians. Your word isn't evidence Kunt.

    Go read this book and educate yourself
    https://www.amazon.com/Proof-Collusion-Trump-Betrayed-America-ebook/dp/B07GZ4MR77
    Yeah, I'll go read a book that you haven't read in order for you to be able to back up your fucking mouth.

    I believe you're all but implying you're a dumbfuck insincere
    I actually did read it. I guess that makes you a lying Kunt. But we all knew that already.

    Gay Bob demands proof of collusion and then is too scared to read a book that lays out all of the collusion. Fuck off.
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  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,655 Standard Supporter
    It was an attempted coup by the FBI/DOJ/CIA. But commies think that's OK. Time for prison.
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  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    You seem to care a lot about Lying Kunts?

    https://lidblog.com/secret-service-nancy-pelosi/

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