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The team next year will be no better than this year

dhdawg
dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
Sankey is gone (not worth taking more of a beating, his stock won't get any higher)
ASJ is gone (why play in this system again and have your stock fall even more)
Price is gone
replacing 3/4 of our secondary
Who cares if our oline is full of seniors they all suck except for Charles
It's possible Wilcox is gone too and with him will a go lot of the staff
Sark is still coaching
We'll get no better but the record will improve cause of the shitty schedule. We go 9-4 lose the bowl and doogs will talk about how it's progress

Comments

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    It will be an average to slightly above average team because of Sark. If we had a coach we could count on, I actually think next years team has a lot to be excited about.
  • DeLarry
    DeLarry Member Posts: 230
    The four cosmetic wins from the weak OOC will equal 9 or 10 wins and a statue for Sark. The team will be the same or maybe worse.
  • chrisvashon
    chrisvashon Member Posts: 627
    Wilcox isn't going anywhere
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    also, another reason is we aren't going to be this healthy again. Only having 1 or 2 injuries throughout the season, one being for significant time. It isn't happening again.
    We lost Charles for a couple games, Price for 1, Shamburger for I don't even know how long cause I didn't really care, and Kasen for a few.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    If we are as good this season in 14 then the easier schedule will translate to potentially 10-3 in the regular season. We could actually regress but win one or two more games.

    Both the O & D took steps forward if you look at the stats and especially yards per play. The D gave up about 1 less ppg overall. In conference the D gave up 14% more points but faced 15% more plays.
    Everyone but Parker returns on D and the last recruiting class on D was strong so there will be improved depth across the board. The secondary will need to develop but Peters is a potential All-American.

    Coons was awesome this year and we'll see if his loss costs us 1 game. Ross is looking good on kick returns so I bet that aspect will be better.

    Offense is the X factor. Likely no Sankey but Washington will be a decent replacement and maybe having a QB who can run also mitigates the loss of Sankey. The OL actually had a decent season. You don't put up that many yards and yards per play with a terrible OL. ASJ & Kasen weren't big factors. Stringfellow will replace Smith.

    Schedule is really favorable. @ UO, @UA & UCLA are toughest games. ASU loses a ton of starters and won't be as good. Stanford loses some guys but will be a tough game even at home. They've recruited well. Col, Cal, OSU are 3 wins. If we are as good at home as we've been the past three seasons then Stan & ASU are wins. Should be at least 9-3 going into the Apple Cup but 8-4 wouldn't surprise me. A good coach would take this team and be 10-2 heading to Pullman in first or tied for first in the P12 North.
  • This team is going 5-4 next year in conference play.

    Cook it!
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326

    If we are as good this season in 14 then the easier schedule will translate to potentially 10-3 in the regular season. We could actually regress but win one or two more games.

    Both the O & D took steps forward if you look at the stats and especially yards per play. The D gave up about 1 less ppg overall. In conference the D gave up 14% more points but faced 15% more plays.
    Everyone but Parker returns on D and the last recruiting class on D was strong so there will be improved depth across the board. The secondary will need to develop but Peters is a potential All-American.

    Coons was awesome this year and we'll see if his loss costs us 1 game. Ross is looking good on kick returns so I bet that aspect will be better.

    Offense is the X factor. Likely no Sankey but Washington will be a decent replacement and maybe having a QB who can run also mitigates the loss of Sankey. The OL actually had a decent season. You don't put up that many yards and yards per play with a terrible OL. ASJ & Kasen weren't big factors. Stringfellow will replace Smith.

    Schedule is really favorable. @ UO, @UA & UCLA are toughest games. ASU loses a ton of starters and won't be as good. Stanford loses some guys but will be a tough game even at home. They've recruited well. Col, Cal, OSU are 3 wins. If we are as good at home as we've been the past three seasons then Stan & ASU are wins. Should be at least 9-3 going into the Apple Cup but 8-4 wouldn't surprise me. A good coach would take this team and be 10-2 heading to Pullman in first or tied for first in the P12 North.

    I disagree. The oline was bad. We were able to mitigate it against the bad teams but when the oline was a big reason why we couldn't score against Oregon, ASU, to a certain degree UCLA, and even WSU
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    dhdawg said:

    If we are as good this season in 14 then the easier schedule will translate to potentially 10-3 in the regular season. We could actually regress but win one or two more games.

    Both the O & D took steps forward if you look at the stats and especially yards per play. The D gave up about 1 less ppg overall. In conference the D gave up 14% more points but faced 15% more plays.
    Everyone but Parker returns on D and the last recruiting class on D was strong so there will be improved depth across the board. The secondary will need to develop but Peters is a potential All-American.

    Coons was awesome this year and we'll see if his loss costs us 1 game. Ross is looking good on kick returns so I bet that aspect will be better.

    Offense is the X factor. Likely no Sankey but Washington will be a decent replacement and maybe having a QB who can run also mitigates the loss of Sankey. The OL actually had a decent season. You don't put up that many yards and yards per play with a terrible OL. ASJ & Kasen weren't big factors. Stringfellow will replace Smith.

    Schedule is really favorable. @ UO, @UA & UCLA are toughest games. ASU loses a ton of starters and won't be as good. Stanford loses some guys but will be a tough game even at home. They've recruited well. Col, Cal, OSU are 3 wins. If we are as good at home as we've been the past three seasons then Stan & ASU are wins. Should be at least 9-3 going into the Apple Cup but 8-4 wouldn't surprise me. A good coach would take this team and be 10-2 heading to Pullman in first or tied for first in the P12 North.

    I disagree. The oline was bad. We were able to mitigate it against the bad teams but when the oline was a big reason why we couldn't score against Oregon, ASU, to a certain degree UCLA, and even WSU
    Outgained Stanford & UCLA. The OL was adequate enough for a 9-3 record and really only prevented UW from beating UO & ASU.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    dhdawg said:

    If we are as good this season in 14 then the easier schedule will translate to potentially 10-3 in the regular season. We could actually regress but win one or two more games.

    Both the O & D took steps forward if you look at the stats and especially yards per play. The D gave up about 1 less ppg overall. In conference the D gave up 14% more points but faced 15% more plays.
    Everyone but Parker returns on D and the last recruiting class on D was strong so there will be improved depth across the board. The secondary will need to develop but Peters is a potential All-American.

    Coons was awesome this year and we'll see if his loss costs us 1 game. Ross is looking good on kick returns so I bet that aspect will be better.

    Offense is the X factor. Likely no Sankey but Washington will be a decent replacement and maybe having a QB who can run also mitigates the loss of Sankey. The OL actually had a decent season. You don't put up that many yards and yards per play with a terrible OL. ASJ & Kasen weren't big factors. Stringfellow will replace Smith.

    Schedule is really favorable. @ UO, @UA & UCLA are toughest games. ASU loses a ton of starters and won't be as good. Stanford loses some guys but will be a tough game even at home. They've recruited well. Col, Cal, OSU are 3 wins. If we are as good at home as we've been the past three seasons then Stan & ASU are wins. Should be at least 9-3 going into the Apple Cup but 8-4 wouldn't surprise me. A good coach would take this team and be 10-2 heading to Pullman in first or tied for first in the P12 North.

    I disagree. The oline was bad. We were able to mitigate it against the bad teams but when the oline was a big reason why we couldn't score against Oregon, ASU, to a certain degree UCLA, and even WSU
    Outgained Stanford & UCLA. The OL was adequate enough for a 9-3 record and really only Sark prevented UW from beating UO & ASU.
  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515
    Here's who we have to replace and how I see the possible replacements (better, worse, or even compared to this year)

    QB- Miles or Williams (?, Price was so up and down it's impossible to predict)
    RB - Washington (worse)
    TE - Perkins or Ajamu (worse)
    Smith - Stringfellow (even, but more upside on String

    Shamburger - King, Walker,Beaver, etc. (better)
    Parker-King, Walker, Beaver, etc. (worse)
    Ducre - Kelly, Wallace (even, more upside on Kelly)
    Fuimaona - Feeney (even, more upside on Feeney)

    Coons - Who the hell knows (worse)

    Sark better hope for some surprises from some of the young guys coming in. Other than Ducre, Fui, and Shamburger those are some damn big shoes to fill and in all positions except QB, CB Jermaine Kelly, and Stingfellow, the likely replacements are guys who were not highly recruited out of high school
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    No Shamburger or ducre
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Wilcox isn't going anywhere

    Why does Wilcox hate his own career?

    He needs to get the fuck out of UW and take a HC job somewhere while he still can.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    dhdawg said:

    If we are as good this season in 14 then the easier schedule will translate to potentially 10-3 in the regular season. We could actually regress but win one or two more games.

    Both the O & D took steps forward if you look at the stats and especially yards per play. The D gave up about 1 less ppg overall. In conference the D gave up 14% more points but faced 15% more plays.
    Everyone but Parker returns on D and the last recruiting class on D was strong so there will be improved depth across the board. The secondary will need to develop but Peters is a potential All-American.

    Coons was awesome this year and we'll see if his loss costs us 1 game. Ross is looking good on kick returns so I bet that aspect will be better.

    Offense is the X factor. Likely no Sankey but Washington will be a decent replacement and maybe having a QB who can run also mitigates the loss of Sankey. The OL actually had a decent season. You don't put up that many yards and yards per play with a terrible OL. ASJ & Kasen weren't big factors. Stringfellow will replace Smith.

    Schedule is really favorable. @ UO, @UA & UCLA are toughest games. ASU loses a ton of starters and won't be as good. Stanford loses some guys but will be a tough game even at home. They've recruited well. Col, Cal, OSU are 3 wins. If we are as good at home as we've been the past three seasons then Stan & ASU are wins. Should be at least 9-3 going into the Apple Cup but 8-4 wouldn't surprise me. A good coach would take this team and be 10-2 heading to Pullman in first or tied for first in the P12 North.

    I disagree. The oline was bad. We were able to mitigate it against the bad teams but when the oline was a big reason why we couldn't score against Oregon, ASU, to a certain degree UCLA, and even WSU
    Outgained Stanford & UCLA. The OL was adequate enough for a 9-3 record and really only prevented UW from beating UO & ASU.
    Never led against Stanford and UCLA. Outgaining them was a mirage.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Wilcox isn't going anywhere

    Why does Wilcox hate his own career?

    He needs to get the fuck out of UW and take a HC job somewhere while he still can.
    The Wilcox for head coach boner is FS. They guy is average. I guess maybe an FCS school would be a place to see if he can coach at all, but he has proven nothing to land an FBS beach coaching job.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Wilcox isn't going anywhere

    Why does Wilcox hate his own career?

    He needs to get the fuck out of UW and take a HC job somewhere while he still can.
    The Wilcox for head coach boner is FS. They guy is average. I guess maybe an FCS school would be a place to see if he can coach at all, but he has proven nothing to land an FBS beach coaching job.
    I wouldn't hire him to coach a BCS team, but he's done enough to get the HC job at Nevada or Wyoming.

    The longer he stays at UW, the worse his HC prospects get.
  • mobey
    mobey Member Posts: 3,254
    He won't get hired as HC but the problem is he's getting big bucks as Poolboy tries to prop up Fat Sark.

    However, he's not learning or progressing under the rotund one.

    So you're right, he's losing ground career wise.

    Wilcox isn't going anywhere

    Why does Wilcox hate his own career?

    He needs to get the fuck out of UW and take a HC job somewhere while he still can.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    Yardage board versus Scoreboard.

    The advanced metrics boys love to point to the YPG stat as an indication of team improvement or success for the new offense. A comment regarding this should be added to the Doog handbook appendix after this year.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    MisterEm said:

    Yardage board versus Scoreboard.

    The advanced metrics boys love to point to the YPG stat as an indication of team improvement or success for the new offense. A comment regarding this should be added to the Doog handbook appendix after this year.

    The yardage board is wildly overrated.

    Scoring margin (with diminishing returns) is where it's at.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Wilcox isn't going anywhere

    Why does Wilcox hate his own career?

    He needs to get the fuck out of UW and take a HC job somewhere while he still can.
    The Wilcox for head coach boner is FS. They guy is average. I guess maybe an FCS school would be a place to see if he can coach at all, but he has proven nothing to land an FBS beach coaching job.
    I wouldn't hire him to coach a BCS team, but he's done enough to get the HC job at Nevada or Wyoming.

    The longer he stays at UW, the worse his HC prospects get.
    Good enough for Nevada based on what?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    I heard Sankey is definately coming back because he's a good kid and doing it the right way. It would be stupid for him to leave early with so many records at his doorstep to break and that it isn't your first NFL contract that matters, it's the second. ASJ is gone because he's doing it the right way and that it makes sense to leave early when there is nothing else to play for in college.

    hth.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Wilcox isn't going anywhere

    Why does Wilcox hate his own career?

    He needs to get the fuck out of UW and take a HC job somewhere while he still can.
    The Wilcox for head coach boner is FS. They guy is average. I guess maybe an FCS school would be a place to see if he can coach at all, but he has proven nothing to land an FBS beach coaching job.
    I wouldn't hire him to coach a BCS team, but he's done enough to get the HC job at Nevada or Wyoming.

    The longer he stays at UW, the worse his HC prospects get.
    Good enough for Nevada based on what?
    NOGAFAN.
  • gmo
    gmo Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,853 Founders Club
    5 win (hole) Steve!!

    This team is going 5-4 next year in conference play.

    Cook it!