You guys who compare wanting a playoff to waiting to turn this into the NFL are hilarious. Literally every other team sport has some sort of a playoff to determine a true champion. All of them. Including every other division of college football. You don't have to love the nFL to want a playoff, you just have to love sports.
I get that you guys are college football purists and that's cute and all but the past is for doogs and you're all living in it.
Look if we’re gonna go this route, then we need to take the 32 best programs in college and create a super division with like say 4 conferences of 8 teams. 7 conference games every year + 4 out of conference games against good teams ever year (2 home and 2 road). Make a neutral scheduling committee if need be. If we are going to go NFL with college football then I only want to watch good teams. I want Bama or Clempson to have to come to Seattle for a regular season game that counts in the win/loss standings.
Well yes everything you just said needs to happen. I'm even fine with the 64 team (four 16 team conference with two divisions each) idea where you play 7 from your division, 2 from the other division and 3 non conference per year. But yes the way non conference scheduling is done is a huge issue in college football, as is the fact different conferences don't play the same amount of conference games.
The playing field needs to be leveled for sure.
Honestly everything you said would be an improvement with or without going to an 8 team playoff. Even the plus one model would be improved in this scenario.
Again, I loved the old system and split natties and never wanted it to change. But I think keeping bowls and going to this 8 team CFP model is BS. It’s still going to be subjective and not “decided on the field”. If we are going the NFL route, then go full NFL route. No half measures. No more FCS and and as close to schedule parity as possible.
1. Win your P5 conference 2. G5 teams that go undefeated are at large bids (if there are more than three than just use the committee to rank). 3. Fill the rest with at-larges from the current committee system.
Its basically a 11 team playoff that allows for bowl tie-ins to still matter, auto bids from the power5 and undefeated teams a path, while eliminating the likelihood plays sit out of important "playoff" bowl games
5 Auto bids from P5 conference winners (will receive a "bye") - all P5 teams must play a minimum of 9 conference games - must have 11 non FCS games - must play at least one non conference P5 team - must have conference championship game
6 "play-in" team selections: (designated at-large AL) - undefeated auto fills lowest seed - highest ranking non auto bid fill rest of selection
The 3 at large games will be played in the higher seeds home field.
Then transition to a 8 team playoff with winners of play-in games.
Round 1: Rose: B1G vs. Pac-12 Orange: ACC vs. Big XII Sugar: SEC vs. AL3 Fiesta: AL1 vs. AL2
Round 2: Peach & Cotton with the same rules as now, committee ranks, highest seeds play closest to home.
Round 3 (Championship): Las Vegas, Orlando, or Dallas or some other cities that are easy to get to, cheep, plenty to do, actually care about football somewhat, and have high quality stadiums.
2018 would look like:
At Large: #1 Notre Dame (home) vs. #6 LSU #2 Georgia (home) vs. #5 Florida #3 Michigan (home) vs. #4 UCF
(guessing the winners)
AL 1 Notre Dame AL 2 Florida AL 3 UCF
2018 playoffs: Rose: Ohio State vs. Washington Orange: Clemson vs. Oklahoma Sugar: Alabama vs. UCF Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Florida
Round 2: Peach Bowl: Alabama vs Notre Dame Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma vs Ohio State
10 conference games for everyone. If this were to be done I don't think it matters what or how a national champion is determined. Whoever is on top in each conference will more often than not be an undisputed conference champion. Instead of playing a bunch of games after the season is over, play a bunch of games before instead. It's that fucking simple. A committee or a computer could easily pluck out 2 or 4 teams for a playoff, or even deem a champion after the bowels. Hell, play 11 conference games, even better.
I'm not a fan of playing a p5 from another conference. Would you Doogs have rather played USC last year instead of traveling east to play Auburn? If I were a Doog, I'd choose to play USC.
I am a fan of a conference challenge for an out of conference P5 game, but that's the only consideration. It's a good way to help determine conference strength, especially if it rotates. Other than that, stick to your kind.
10 conference games for everyone. If this were to be done I don't think it matters what or how a national champion is determined. Whoever is on top in each conference will more often than not be an undisputed conference champion. Instead of playing a bunch of games after the season is over, play a bunch of games before instead. It's that fucking simple. A committee or a computer could easily pluck out 2 or 4 teams for a playoff, or even deem a champion after the bowels. Hell, play 11 conference games, even better.
I'm not a fan of playing a p5 from another conference. Would you Doogs have rather played USC last year instead of traveling east to play Auburn? If I were a Doog, I'd choose to play USC.
I am a fan of a conference challenge for an out of conference P5 game, but that's the only consideration. It's a good way to help determine conference strength, especially if it rotates. Other than that, stick to your kind.
I actually like the non conference games against good programs. I like the home and homes we have set up with Michigan and Ohio state coming up and plan to travel to those venues as well as fly in for the home games.
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2. G5 teams that go undefeated are at large bids (if there are more than three than just use the committee to rank).
3. Fill the rest with at-larges from the current committee system.
Its basically a 11 team playoff that allows for bowl tie-ins to still matter, auto bids from the power5 and undefeated teams a path, while eliminating the likelihood plays sit out of important "playoff" bowl games
5 Auto bids from P5 conference winners (will receive a "bye")
- all P5 teams must play a minimum of 9 conference games
- must have 11 non FCS games
- must play at least one non conference P5 team
- must have conference championship game
6 "play-in" team selections: (designated at-large AL)
- undefeated auto fills lowest seed
- highest ranking non auto bid fill rest of selection
The 3 at large games will be played in the higher seeds home field.
Then transition to a 8 team playoff with winners of play-in games.
Round 1:
Rose: B1G vs. Pac-12
Orange: ACC vs. Big XII
Sugar: SEC vs. AL3
Fiesta: AL1 vs. AL2
Round 2:
Peach & Cotton with the same rules as now, committee ranks, highest seeds play closest to home.
Round 3 (Championship):
Las Vegas, Orlando, or Dallas or some other cities that are easy to get to, cheep, plenty to do, actually care about football somewhat, and have high quality stadiums.
2018 would look like:
At Large:
#1 Notre Dame (home) vs. #6 LSU
#2 Georgia (home) vs. #5 Florida
#3 Michigan (home) vs. #4 UCF
(guessing the winners)
AL 1 Notre Dame
AL 2 Florida
AL 3 UCF
2018 playoffs:
Rose: Ohio State vs. Washington
Orange: Clemson vs. Oklahoma
Sugar: Alabama vs. UCF
Fiesta: Notre Dame vs. Florida
Round 2:
Peach Bowl: Alabama vs Notre Dame
Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma vs Ohio State
Championship in Vegas:
Alabama vs Oklahoma
yah yah... TLDR... Disagree... Hardy har har.
I'm not a fan of playing a p5 from another conference. Would you Doogs have rather played USC last year instead of traveling east to play Auburn? If I were a Doog, I'd choose to play USC.
I am a fan of a conference challenge for an out of conference P5 game, but that's the only consideration. It's a good way to help determine conference strength, especially if it rotates. Other than that, stick to your kind.