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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    I own a business and you are a dumbshit.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    I own a business and you are a dumbshit.
    Care to discuss what you disagree with on this post?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,978
    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,156 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.

    Welcome

    Fuck off

    LEAVE


    H is another shed refugee but is a lib so I'm sure you'll treat him nicely

    Now this post - taxes are why we have income disparity? Flat tax self enforcing?

    He'll fit in here well
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.

    Why do you feel that the tax code should be used to address disparities in wealth and income? And which has a bigger impact on that disparity? The tax code or drive and intelligence? I'd argue that the importation of millions of illiterate dirt farmers along with the existing welfare state has done far more to influence the disparities in wealth and income than the fucking tax code.

  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    HHusky said:

    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.

    Welcome

    Fuck off

    LEAVE


    H is another shed refugee but is a lib so I'm sure you'll treat him nicely

    Now this post - taxes are why we have income disparity? Flat tax self enforcing?

    He'll fit in here well
    He is a lib but like Romney he calls himself a severe Conservative. But Romney was too conservative for him so he voted for Obama. That's how conservative he is.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,978
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.

    Why do you feel that the tax code should be used to address disparities in wealth and income? And which has a bigger impact on that disparity? The tax code or drive and intelligence? I'd argue that the importation of millions of illiterate dirt farmers along with the existing welfare state has done far more to influence the disparities in wealth and income than the fucking tax code.

    The tax code has changed in recent years to perpetuate disparities in wealth and income. The "liberals" who founded the Republic knew these disparities have always led to the end of republics throughout history. You are free to fear dirt farmers. I am more concerned about oligarchs. Daddy and his sibs got a nine to ten figure fortune free from all estate taxes; you're offended by the poor getting food stamps.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,156 Founders Club
    The founders of the Republic would have gone to war against an income tax
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited January 2019
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.

    Why do you feel that the tax code should be used to address disparities in wealth and income? And which has a bigger impact on that disparity? The tax code or drive and intelligence? I'd argue that the importation of millions of illiterate dirt farmers along with the existing welfare state has done far more to influence the disparities in wealth and income than the fucking tax code.

    The tax code has changed in recent years to perpetuate disparities in wealth and income. The "liberals" who founded the Republic knew these disparities have always led to the end of republics throughout history. You are free to fear dirt farmers. I am more concerned about oligarchs. Daddy and his sibs got a nine to ten figure fortune free from all estate taxes; you're offended by the poor getting food stamps.
    "Daddy's" money didn't cost me a dime and unlike you I don't feel an entitlement to the wealth of others. People getting food stamps does cost me money. Why aren't you opposed to allowing massive numbers of dirt poor, low skilled and poorly education people into this country Mr. Conservative? That appears to have a much greater impact on the wealth disparity. Btw, how does the disparity in my wealth and Zuckerberg's wealth hurt me?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,978

    The founders of the Republic would have gone to war against an income tax

    Then they would have had to come up with another way of redistributing wealth. Because they clearly believed a more egalitarian society was the best hope for remaining a republic.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited January 2019
    HHusky said:

    The founders of the Republic would have gone to war against an income tax

    Then they would have had to come up with another way of redistributing wealth. Because they clearly believed a more egalitarian society was the best hope for remaining a republic.
    I missed where the founders advocated seizing the wealth of rich people in order to give it to poor people. Which Founder was that O'Keefed?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    The founders of the Republic would have gone to war against an income tax

    Then they would have had to come up with another way of redistributing wealth. Because they clearly believed a more egalitarian society was the best hope for remaining a republic.
    I missed where the founders advocated seizing the wealth of rich people in order to give it to poor people. Which Founder was that O'Keefed?
    You also missed the general welfare clause in the Constitution but that doesn't stop you from railing on general welfare.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    edited January 2019
    And you missed where I educated your ignorant ass months ago that when the Constitution was written "general welfare" wasn't interpreted by anyone to mean providing individuals with food and housing and healthcare.

    Paying for grandma's hip replacement is a great benefit to grandma's welfare but it does nothing for the general welfare. The Federal government adhered fairly closely to that belief with a few small exceptions for over a 150 years.

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,156 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    The founders of the Republic would have gone to war against an income tax

    Then they would have had to come up with another way of redistributing wealth. Because they clearly believed a more egalitarian society was the best hope for remaining a republic.
    And they built it

    Now we have idiots that want to fundamentally transform it
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,642 Standard Supporter

    First, ITEP is a leftard organization. Its purpose isn’t education but issuing propaganda for other leftards like hondo to re-spew. Take a married family of four with two kids making $32,000 a year. They pay no federal income tax. They would pay a little social security. They would qualify for $5,600 of earned income tax credit. They would qualify for food stamps. They would qualify for section 8 housing and Medicaid. Yep, they are paying their fair share all right.