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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    You can tell who is stupid by this post
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    Google it Hondo, what's the matter? Don't you want to educate yourself?
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    Hi there dumbass.

    "It will never happen".

    Sincerely,

    Salaried worker, son of small business owner. Small business owner who prepares taxes for a living.

    Fuck off.

    HTH
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    Hi there dumbass.

    "It will never happen".

    Sincerely,

    Salaried worker, son of small business owner. Small business owner who prepares taxes for a living.

    Fuck off.

    HTH
    If you are the son of a small business owner who prepares taxes for a living. Then you know that determination of income is the main reason that the IRS exists. Not because of the percentage of income a person is to pay.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    You can tell who is stupid by this post

    So you don't understand either.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hondo has an argument to make here but unfortunately it's not based upon anything I or anyone else here said so he'll continue to cram his square peg into the round hole.

    As usual the point flew over your head too.
    Again someone explain why you have to pay a larger percentage if you make more money and how that fits under equal application of the law?
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    Hi there dumbass.

    "It will never happen".

    Sincerely,

    Salaried worker, son of small business owner. Small business owner who prepares taxes for a living.

    Fuck off.

    HTH
    If you are the son of a small business owner who prepares taxes for a living. Then you know that determination of income is the main reason that the IRS exists. Not because of the percentage of income a person is to pay.
    No shit sherlock.

    Which is why I explained to you the idea behind the flat tax is more about eliminating deductions than about the percentage of the tax.

    Also why it will never fucking happen.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited January 2019
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Hondo has an argument to make here but unfortunately it's not based upon anything I or anyone else here said so he'll continue to cram his square peg into the round hole.

    As usual the point flew over your head too.
    Again someone explain why you have to pay a larger percentage if you make more money and how that fits under equal application of the law?
    They don't by a drastic amount when you look at that chart. HTH
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    You can tell who is stupid by this post

    So you don't understand either.
    Oh I do

    I understand you're a fucking moron

  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    Hi there dumbass.

    "It will never happen".

    Sincerely,

    Salaried worker, son of small business owner. Small business owner who prepares taxes for a living.

    Fuck off.

    HTH
    If you are the son of a small business owner who prepares taxes for a living. Then you know that determination of income is the main reason that the IRS exists. Not because of the percentage of income a person is to pay.
    No shit sherlock.

    Which is why I explained to you the idea behind the flat tax is more about eliminating deductions than about the percentage of the tax.

    Also why it will never fucking happen.
    Again, the main deductions like medical insurance, earned income credit, and housing are still just calculations in a computer or reported to the IRS. Those aren't issues that take time. The issues that do take time are actual determination of income.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    I own a business and you are a dumbshit.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Scaling tax rates are stupid and should be replaced by a flat tax. Simplify the damn thing

    Another simple mind post. All flat tax does is change a calculation in a computer. It doesn't simplify anything.
    Other than effectively eliminating the need for most of the IRS, it wouldn't simply anything. Always love when you add "context" by sticking your head up your ass Hondo.



    Explain to me how a flat tax would eliminate most of the IRS.
    I believe the idea is a flat tax would eliminate all write offs, deductions, etc. Your income is how much money you made, and you pay a flat percent on that period.

    Doesn't matter, it will never happen.
    Made how? What if I own a business? What can I deduct from that business? What is Personal expense and what is business expense? What if I use my home for my business? What about my trailer? My pickup? Cell phone? What if I make myself a contractor to my current employer?

    You can tell a person who works for a wage from a person who owns a business. HTH.
    I own a business and you are a dumbshit.
    Care to discuss what you disagree with on this post?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,755
    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.

    Welcome

    Fuck off

    LEAVE


    H is another shed refugee but is a lib so I'm sure you'll treat him nicely

    Now this post - taxes are why we have income disparity? Flat tax self enforcing?

    He'll fit in here well
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    HHusky said:

    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.

    Why do you feel that the tax code should be used to address disparities in wealth and income? And which has a bigger impact on that disparity? The tax code or drive and intelligence? I'd argue that the importation of millions of illiterate dirt farmers along with the existing welfare state has done far more to influence the disparities in wealth and income than the fucking tax code.

  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203

    HHusky said:

    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.

    Welcome

    Fuck off

    LEAVE


    H is another shed refugee but is a lib so I'm sure you'll treat him nicely

    Now this post - taxes are why we have income disparity? Flat tax self enforcing?

    He'll fit in here well
    He is a lib but like Romney he calls himself a severe Conservative. But Romney was too conservative for him so he voted for Obama. That's how conservative he is.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,755
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.

    Why do you feel that the tax code should be used to address disparities in wealth and income? And which has a bigger impact on that disparity? The tax code or drive and intelligence? I'd argue that the importation of millions of illiterate dirt farmers along with the existing welfare state has done far more to influence the disparities in wealth and income than the fucking tax code.

    The tax code has changed in recent years to perpetuate disparities in wealth and income. The "liberals" who founded the Republic knew these disparities have always led to the end of republics throughout history. You are free to fear dirt farmers. I am more concerned about oligarchs. Daddy and his sibs got a nine to ten figure fortune free from all estate taxes; you're offended by the poor getting food stamps.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,790 Founders Club
    The founders of the Republic would have gone to war against an income tax
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    edited January 2019
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    We basically have a flat at best, more likely regressive tax structure right now. You have seen the results in the enormous disparities in income, wealth, power and influence. The idea that you will eliminate the IRS--an agency whose capacity to find and prosecute cheaters has been under attack for decades--is apparently based on some nonsense idea that a flat tax will somehow become self-enforcing. Like all simplistic solutions, a flat tax appeals to simpletons.

    Why do you feel that the tax code should be used to address disparities in wealth and income? And which has a bigger impact on that disparity? The tax code or drive and intelligence? I'd argue that the importation of millions of illiterate dirt farmers along with the existing welfare state has done far more to influence the disparities in wealth and income than the fucking tax code.

    The tax code has changed in recent years to perpetuate disparities in wealth and income. The "liberals" who founded the Republic knew these disparities have always led to the end of republics throughout history. You are free to fear dirt farmers. I am more concerned about oligarchs. Daddy and his sibs got a nine to ten figure fortune free from all estate taxes; you're offended by the poor getting food stamps.
    "Daddy's" money didn't cost me a dime and unlike you I don't feel an entitlement to the wealth of others. People getting food stamps does cost me money. Why aren't you opposed to allowing massive numbers of dirt poor, low skilled and poorly education people into this country Mr. Conservative? That appears to have a much greater impact on the wealth disparity. Btw, how does the disparity in my wealth and Zuckerberg's wealth hurt me?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,755

    The founders of the Republic would have gone to war against an income tax

    Then they would have had to come up with another way of redistributing wealth. Because they clearly believed a more egalitarian society was the best hope for remaining a republic.
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