what is the main culprit behind the Doog phenomenon?

gmo

If you had to choose one (yes, i know... all of the above, abundance) which is the biggest factor?

TierbsHsotBoobs

Pussification and Marinerization of Seattle and WA

The Pole is missing Softy and The Field.

Fire_Marshall_Bill

Ty Willingham and the complete lowering of UW expectations going on over 10 years now due to losses

All are factors, but the pussification has been ongoing for a while. I remember getting b.s. trophies as a kid in the 80s and early 90s (but my trophy for being first in the second grade paper drive was real damnit! ).

People were really shellshocked by 2004 and 2008. I don't think many saw the zero and one win seasons coming. I definitely went Doog in '09 when they won five. The difference was in 2010 I wasn't okay with starting three and six, and I wasn't okay with the defense giving up 40 points a game or whatever it was in 2011 (plus the fact we barely beat Eastern).

TierbsHsotBoobs

Pussification and Marinerization of Seattle and WA

Washington football sucks now because Washington football fans are willing to pay for this shit.

Case closed.

tracker

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

Washington football sucks now because Washington football fans are willing to pay for this shit.

Case closed.

Harse, but true.

If football revenue goes down and starts to threaten Title lX sports then you willsee a change to winning football.

As long as football can pay the bills for everything else the AD and upper campus folks are happy.

The love-hate relationship with athletics and academics at the UW continues.

Why we can't have excellence in both is beyond me.

MisterEm

Doogman.com, SeattleTimes and the like. No one with the stones to call out UW/Sark for mediocrity.

The P12 network monies will encourage this behavior.

dnc

Pussification and Marinerization of Seattle and WA

Estrogen.

IrishDawg22

MisterEm said:

The P12 network monies will encourage this behavior.

This.

Current TV money + suite revenue + large donors make individual season ticket sales irrelevant.

Haid_D_Salaami

You should ask yourself if doogs were born doogs or created. Guys like Kim....soft, whiny beta types that never played competitive football...were obviously born to doog. But I think some guys like Dick B. were turned into doogs by the current faggoty climate of the Seattle area.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Pussification and Marinerization of Seattle and WA

IrishDawg22 said:

MisterEm said:

The P12 network monies will encourage this behavior.

This.

Current TV money + suite revenue + large donors make individual season ticket sales irrelevant.

500,000 tickets sold @ $60 per ticket = $30 million per year.

That ain't chump change.

The problem is that they will sell at least 400,000 of those tickets no matter what because pussification.

HeretoBeatmyChest

Ty Willingham and the complete lowering of UW expectations going on over 10 years now due to losses

It has nothing to do with Seattle & Marinerization. Thats a common belief here but its wrong. If thats the case then how are the Seahawks the best team in the NFL now? Why have expectations for UW football changed from 1998 when Lambo was fired for 6-6 until today? Seattle isn't much different than it was then. Eugene is a pussified liberal city who had the #2 program nationally weeks ago.

Mark Emmert's tenure (2004-2008) is what lowered expectations all around….from fans, media & UW.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Pussification and Marinerization of Seattle and WA

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

It has nothing to do with Seattle & Marinerization. Thats a common belief here but its wrong. If thats the case then how are the Seahawks the best team in the NFL now? Why have expectations for UW football changed from 1998 when Lambo was fired for 6-6 until today? Seattle isn't much different than it was then. Eugene is a pussified liberal city who had the #2 program nationally weeks ago.

Mark Emmert's tenure (2004-2008) is what lowered expectations all around….from fans, media & UW.

I actually think the success of the Seahawks makes the Husky mediocrity more tolerable by most, what with the shared fanbase and all.

chrisvashon

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

It has nothing to do with Seattle & Marinerization. Thats a common belief here but its wrong. If thats the case then how are the Seahawks the best team in the NFL now? Why have expectations for UW football changed from 1998 when Lambo was fired for 6-6 until today? Seattle isn't much different than it was then. Eugene is a pussified liberal city who had the #2 program nationally weeks ago.

Mark Emmert's tenure (2004-2008) is what lowered expectations all around….from fans, media & UW.

Thank you, Chest. Our non-Seattle posters -- bitter and cynical as they are -- somehow view Seattle in a negative light. Which makes no sense given that we have some of the best fans in the country.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Pussification and Marinerization of Seattle and WA

chrisvashon said:

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

It has nothing to do with Seattle & Marinerization. Thats a common belief here but its wrong. If thats the case then how are the Seahawks the best team in the NFL now? Why have expectations for UW football changed from 1998 when Lambo was fired for 6-6 until today? Seattle isn't much different than it was then. Eugene is a pussified liberal city who had the #2 program nationally weeks ago.

Mark Emmert's tenure (2004-2008) is what lowered expectations all around….from fans, media & UW.

Thank you, Chest. Our non-Seattle posters -- bitter and cynical as they are -- somehow view Seattle in a negative light. Which makes no sense given that we have some of the best fans in the country.

Seattle is the worst fucking sports city on the planet and it's not even close.

Hope this helps.

PurpleJ

Pussification and Marinerization of Seattle and WA

Can't we just enjoy the new stadium?

chrisvashon

TierbsHsotBoobs said:

chrisvashon said:

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

It has nothing to do with Seattle & Marinerization. Thats a common belief here but its wrong. If thats the case then how are the Seahawks the best team in the NFL now? Why have expectations for UW football changed from 1998 when Lambo was fired for 6-6 until today? Seattle isn't much different than it was then. Eugene is a pussified liberal city who had the #2 program nationally weeks ago.

Mark Emmert's tenure (2004-2008) is what lowered expectations all around….from fans, media & UW.

Thank you, Chest. Our non-Seattle posters -- bitter and cynical as they are -- somehow view Seattle in a negative light. Which makes no sense given that we have some of the best fans in the country.

Seattle is the worst fucking sports city on the planet and it's not even close.

Hope this helps.

You're pressing.

topdawgnc

Pussification and Marinerization of Seattle and WA

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

It has nothing to do with Seattle & Marinerization. Thats a common belief here but its wrong. If thats the case then how are the Seahawks the best team in the NFL now? Why have expectations for UW football changed from 1998 when Lambo was fired for 6-6 until today? Seattle isn't much different than it was then. Eugene is a pussified liberal city who had the #2 program nationally weeks ago.

Mark Emmert's tenure (2004-2008) is what lowered expectations all around….from fans, media & UW.

No coach gets fired for their record, they get fired for empty seats and loss of revenue, which is a symptom of poor records ... caused by a bad coach.

Lambo was fired because Babs wanted more Olympic Sports funding and needed a splashy hire to do so.

I don't live in Seattle anymore, however, nobody seems to care the Mariners suck, no seemed to care when the Seahawks sucked ... and the NBA team actually was taken away.

Seattle has major bandwagon fans ... they go when people are winning ... could care less when they lose.

LSU survived Emmert, but Seattle can't ... why? Because Emmert is as political as they come and knows his audience.

HeretoBeatmyChest

Ty Willingham and the complete lowering of UW expectations going on over 10 years now due to losses

Lambo was fired bc the boosters demanded it. Check with Race on Emmert @ LSU. Hiring a football coach there was of extreme importance.

There is some Marinerization of husky football…other than that you guys are off base.

TierbsHsotBoobs

Pussification and Marinerization of Seattle and WA

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

Lambo was fired bc the boosters demanded it. Check with Race on Emmert @ LSU. Hiring a football coach there was of extreme importance.

There is some Marinerization of husky football…other than that you guys are off base.

When three of the four biggest games in town have been Marinerized or Sterned, it's a sign that the city sucks ass as a sports city.

[Deleted User]

Doogman.com, SeattleTimes and the like. No one with the stones to call out UW/Sark for mediocrity.

I voted for the media one because although no mentioned in here Softy was the original Doog. He is still the biggest Doog even though MykFS and Cody Woofkens try their best to out doog him he won't give up his crown.

I get that Softy can't just come out and be like us on the air. However, you can tell even if he didn't have his show he'd still be a full blown Doog.

Look at how he acts when Oregon loses or when UW defeats a shit opponent.

MikeDamone

topdawgnc said:

HeretoBeatmyChest said:

It has nothing to do with Seattle & Marinerization. Thats a common belief here but its wrong. If thats the case then how are the Seahawks the best team in the NFL now? Why have expectations for UW football changed from 1998 when Lambo was fired for 6-6 until today? Seattle isn't much different than it was then. Eugene is a pussified liberal city who had the #2 program nationally weeks ago.

Mark Emmert's tenure (2004-2008) is what lowered expectations all around….from fans, media & UW.

No coach gets fired for their record, they get fired for empty seats and loss of revenue, which is a symptom of poor records ... caused by a bad coach.

Lambo was fired because Babs wanted more Olympic Sports funding and needed a splashy hire to do so.

I don't live in Seattle anymore, however, nobody seems to care the Mariners suck, no seemed to care when the Seahawks sucked ... and the NBA team actually was taken away.

Seattle has major bandwagon fans ... they go when people are winning ... could care less when they lose.

LSU survived Emmert, but Seattle can't ... why? Because Emmert is as political as they come and knows his audience.

So they care? Is that what you're saying? They have more care they could give?