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  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,543 Founders Club
    That's pretty bad. Trump gotta Trump
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,335 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662
    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    In 2020 it'll be sexist and racist to not vote for Kamala Harris.

    As a Mexican Canadian...I feel that I can be racist.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    He isn't wrong. Well put!

    MAGA!
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,335 Founders Club
    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I've said it a million times...I am a single issue voter and only vote for people who support the 2nd Amendment, so that completely rules out the modern democratic party. which is sad. Dems have changed radically in the last 30 years. But, even independent of that, I would always vote for Trump because while he does a lot of dumb shit, he also does a lot of great shit, and I just like to watch shit burn.
    I'm pretty much the opposite of the single issue voter. ATBSJBS, I hope to see your collection of fine watches and fire arms some day.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Problem is. Things like better border security. A wall doesn't help that. .

    Lower taxes..... That vast majority went to corporations and the wealthy which doesn't help the middle class.

    Pro weed...... Congress is bought off to much by pharmaceutical companies so Congress won't pass anything.

    2A. I'm torn on this one. I do think we need better controls over guns. I don't believe in assault weapons bans but think there should be something in place to better manage them. Most shootings are from people who don't respect guns and haven't had proper training.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Agree. Obama’s character void has been and continues to be corrosive to this country and the entire world.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Look, I can appreciate some version of Trumpism lite policy-wise as a necessary course correction to the strategic errors of Clinton/Bush/Obama. But I think we underestimate how corrosive it is to the body politic to have a man of such low character driving the ship. This reality show star as president thing which really started under Obama needs to die.
    Successful bidnessman turned reality star*

    Anyways, it doesn't really matter what he did before he got the job. It matters that he is GREAT at his job.

    Next you'll tell me that you prefer a career politician.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,335 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Look, I can appreciate some version of Trumpism lite policy-wise as a necessary course correction to the strategic errors of Clinton/Bush/Obama. But I think we underestimate how corrosive it is to the body politic to have a man of such low character driving the ship. This reality show star as president thing which really started under Obama needs to die.
    Successful bidnessman turned reality star*

    Anyways, it doesn't really matter what he did before he got the job. It matters that he is GREAT at his job.

    Next you'll tell me that you prefer a career politician.
    He's not a successful bidness man. Smoke and mirrors man.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Look, I can appreciate some version of Trumpism lite policy-wise as a necessary course correction to the strategic errors of Clinton/Bush/Obama. But I think we underestimate how corrosive it is to the body politic to have a man of such low character driving the ship. This reality show star as president thing which really started under Obama needs to die.
    Successful bidnessman turned reality star*

    Anyways, it doesn't really matter what he did before he got the job. It matters that he is GREAT at his job.

    Next you'll tell me that you prefer a career politician.
    He's not a successful bidness man. Smoke and mirrors man.
    You'd piss all over yourself to be half as successful as Trump.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,335 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Look, I can appreciate some version of Trumpism lite policy-wise as a necessary course correction to the strategic errors of Clinton/Bush/Obama. But I think we underestimate how corrosive it is to the body politic to have a man of such low character driving the ship. This reality show star as president thing which really started under Obama needs to die.
    Successful bidnessman turned reality star*

    Anyways, it doesn't really matter what he did before he got the job. It matters that he is GREAT at his job.

    Next you'll tell me that you prefer a career politician.
    He's not a successful bidness man. Smoke and mirrors man.
    You'd piss all over yourself to be half as successful as Trump.
    First thing I would do is find a decent tailor and a kick ass personal trainer.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Look, I can appreciate some version of Trumpism lite policy-wise as a necessary course correction to the strategic errors of Clinton/Bush/Obama. But I think we underestimate how corrosive it is to the body politic to have a man of such low character driving the ship. This reality show star as president thing which really started under Obama needs to die.
    Successful bidnessman turned reality star*

    Anyways, it doesn't really matter what he did before he got the job. It matters that he is GREAT at his job.

    Next you'll tell me that you prefer a career politician.
    He's not a successful bidness man. Smoke and mirrors man.
    You'd piss all over yourself to be half as successful as Trump.
    First thing I would do is find a decent tailor and a kick ass personal trainer.
    So selfish! Trump is fat because he's willing to be the sacrificial cocoon of warmth during the apocalypse.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,335 Founders Club
    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    PurpleJ said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Look, I can appreciate some version of Trumpism lite policy-wise as a necessary course correction to the strategic errors of Clinton/Bush/Obama. But I think we underestimate how corrosive it is to the body politic to have a man of such low character driving the ship. This reality show star as president thing which really started under Obama needs to die.
    Successful bidnessman turned reality star*

    Anyways, it doesn't really matter what he did before he got the job. It matters that he is GREAT at his job.

    Next you'll tell me that you prefer a career politician.
    He's not a successful bidness man. Smoke and mirrors man.
    You'd piss all over yourself to be half as successful as Trump.
    First thing I would do is find a decent tailor and a kick ass personal trainer.
    So selfish! Trump is fat because he's willing to be the sacrificial cocoon of warmth during the apocalypse.
    Not Fetters level warmth but he's definitely gonna save someone.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Thought for certain that he was a New York Rat who would govern as such if he were elected. As a person, Trump is a fucking disaster, but as far as policy, he has been 85% a solid conservative. Since I long ago got over wanting a President or any politician to be my boyfriend I don't care that Trump is a train-wreck of a human. I care about what he is doing policy-wise. While he didn't get my vote in 2016 he will in 2020.

  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    SFGbob said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Thought for certain that he was a New York Rat who would govern as such if he were elected. As a person, Trump is a fucking disaster, but as far as policy, he has been 85% a solid conservative. Since I long ago got over wanting a President or any politician to be my boyfriend I don't care that Trump is a train-wreck of a human. I care about what he is doing policy-wise. While he didn't get my vote in 2016 he will in 2020.

    A lot of unskilled, uneducated 50+ year old “working class” white males agree with you.

    Not surprised.

    Good luck in 2020 (trump voter demographics— cardio vascular disease, dementia, and inflation are wiping you out).

    Lock her up! Mexico will pay for a border wall! Repeal and replace! I have an Obama care replacement plan!

    Trumpanzees are gonna trumpanzee.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,875 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Problem is. Things like better border security. A wall doesn't help that. .

    Lower taxes..... That vast majority went to corporations and the wealthy which doesn't help the middle class.

    Pro weed...... Congress is bought off to much by pharmaceutical companies so Congress won't pass anything.

    2A. I'm torn on this one. I do think we need better controls over guns. I don't believe in assault weapons bans but think there should be something in place to better manage them. Most shootings are from people who don't respect guns and haven't had proper training.
    Hondo and comrades want a system that has devastated entire countries and killed 100 million people. I can not fathom that kind of stupidity!

    Why aren't the caravan Guats, Honduan's etc. headed to Venezuela? It's a socialist paradise!
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Thought for certain that he was a New York Rat who would govern as such if he were elected. As a person, Trump is a fucking disaster, but as far as policy, he has been 85% a solid conservative. Since I long ago got over wanting a President or any politician to be my boyfriend I don't care that Trump is a train-wreck of a human. I care about what he is doing policy-wise. While he didn't get my vote in 2016 he will in 2020.

    A lot of unskilled, uneducated 50+ year old “working class” white males agree with you.

    Not surprised.

    Good luck in 2020 (trump voter demographics— cardio vascular disease, dementia, and inflation are wiping you out).

    Lock her up! Mexico will pay for a border wall! Repeal and replace! I have an Obama care replacement plan!

    Trumpanzees are gonna trumpanzee.
    Notice how this stupid Kunt never really addresses anything I say?

    A lot of working class white males voted for Trump. I didn't. Not surprised that you're a stupid Kunt who didn't even read what I said.

    For a Kunt that likes to pretend that you're a libertarian you sure seem to suck up to a bunch of fucking Rat party stateists. Why is it that I never see phony "libertarians" like yourself ever say a fucking word in opposition to the welfare state?

  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Thought for certain that he was a New York Rat who would govern as such if he were elected. As a person, Trump is a fucking disaster, but as far as policy, he has been 85% a solid conservative. Since I long ago got over wanting a President or any politician to be my boyfriend I don't care that Trump is a train-wreck of a human. I care about what he is doing policy-wise. While he didn't get my vote in 2016 he will in 2020.

    A lot of unskilled, uneducated 50+ year old “working class” white males agree with you.

    Not surprised.

    Good luck in 2020 (trump voter demographics— cardio vascular disease, dementia, and inflation are wiping you out).

    Lock her up! Mexico will pay for a border wall! Repeal and replace! I have an Obama care replacement plan!

    Trumpanzees are gonna trumpanzee.
    Notice how this stupid Kunt never really addresses anything I say?

    A lot of working class white males voted for Trump. I didn't. Not surprised that you're a stupid Kunt who didn't even read what I said.

    For a Kunt that likes to pretend that you're a libertarian you sure seem to suck up to a bunch of fucking Rat party stateists. Why is it that I never see phony "libertarians" like yourself ever say a fucking word in opposition to the welfare state?

    Why would anyone take you seriously?
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    I’m thankful that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will be 35 in 2024, right when millennials are hitting 40. Good luck, you’re gonna need it.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    I’m thankful that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will be 35 in 2024, right when millennials are hitting 40. Good luck, you’re gonna need it.

    What does that mean
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Millennials all crave taking orders from their younger sisters and will vote for hyphen cortez
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    Millennials all crave taking orders from their younger sisters and will vote for hyphen cortez

    I'm a millennial. I don't vote for women.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560
    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Problem is. Things like better border security. A wall doesn't help that. .

    Lower taxes..... That vast majority went to corporations and the wealthy which doesn't help the middle class.

    Pro weed...... Congress is bought off to much by pharmaceutical companies so Congress won't pass anything.

    2A. I'm torn on this one. I do think we need better controls over guns. I don't believe in assault weapons bans but think there should be something in place to better manage them. Most shootings are from people who don't respect guns and haven't had proper training.
    A wall does help. It isn’t efficient, but it does help. The biggest help is for strict VISA laws and enforcing the law when people violate the terms of their VISA.

    My taxes are lower. So yeah, I’m happy

    Congress used to be bought out by big tobacco, times change. Weed will happen federally, once they realize the amount of money they can tax from it. It’s just a matter of time.

    My problem is the idiots talking about banning assault rifles don’t actually know what assault rifles are?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Thought for certain that he was a New York Rat who would govern as such if he were elected. As a person, Trump is a fucking disaster, but as far as policy, he has been 85% a solid conservative. Since I long ago got over wanting a President or any politician to be my boyfriend I don't care that Trump is a train-wreck of a human. I care about what he is doing policy-wise. While he didn't get my vote in 2016 he will in 2020.

    A lot of unskilled, uneducated 50+ year old “working class” white males agree with you.

    Not surprised.

    Good luck in 2020 (trump voter demographics— cardio vascular disease, dementia, and inflation are wiping you out).

    Lock her up! Mexico will pay for a border wall! Repeal and replace! I have an Obama care replacement plan!

    Trumpanzees are gonna trumpanzee.
    Notice how this stupid Kunt never really addresses anything I say?

    A lot of working class white males voted for Trump. I didn't. Not surprised that you're a stupid Kunt who didn't even read what I said.

    For a Kunt that likes to pretend that you're a libertarian you sure seem to suck up to a bunch of fucking Rat party stateists. Why is it that I never see phony "libertarians" like yourself ever say a fucking word in opposition to the welfare state?

    Why would anyone take you seriously?
    Shocking the phony "libertarian" has nothing to say. Why should a fraud like yourself be taken seriously? I've taken shits that are more libertarian than you are CD.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    Swaye said:

    That was painful to watch. Still can't wait to vote for him again.

    It's chinteresting how you and I probably agree on about 71% of the issues and yet I'll never vote for him ever. I'll write in put Sven in charge if I have to.
    I usually separate policy from the man. Trump is pro guns, lower taxes, open to weed, and for better border security.

    I know the last one will make chicks like cirrhosisdawg have a manic attack. I’m not afraid of immigration, but you can’t do what Germany and Greece have done.

    Trump is an insufferable, arrogant, simple minded, little man. However, I agree with more of Trumps policies than anybody on the left have proposed, That’s why he still gets my vote. I vote policy over the person.
    Problem is. Things like better border security. A wall doesn't help that. .

    Lower taxes..... That vast majority went to corporations and the wealthy which doesn't help the middle class.

    Pro weed...... Congress is bought off to much by pharmaceutical companies so Congress won't pass anything.

    2A. I'm torn on this one. I do think we need better controls over guns. I don't believe in assault weapons bans but think there should be something in place to better manage them. Most shootings are from people who don't respect guns and haven't had proper training.
    A wall does help. It isn’t efficient, but it does help. The biggest help is for strict VISA laws and enforcing the law when people violate the terms of their VISA.

    My taxes are lower. So yeah, I’m happy

    Congress used to be bought out by big tobacco, times change. Weed will happen federally, once they realize the amount of money they can tax from it. It’s just a matter of time.

    My problem is the idiots talking about banning assault rifles don’t actually know what assault rifles are?
    Agree on assault rifles. The definition in the new bill in Washington was fucktarded. It should only be high capacity and rapid fire guns. My thoughts are, those should only be in possession of competent marksmen. Most of the mass shootings are from idiots that have never shot a gun before. And giving idiots access to guns that can destroy shit quick isn't smart.