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  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    edited November 2018
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    I voted for him twice and gave him his best shot at doing something useful for the country in 8 years. Meanwhile, as he sat on his skinny ass and did nothing, colleges plunged deeper into Marxism and abandonment of constitutional rights during the supposed campus "rape epidemic" that never existed, race relations deteriorated as he injected himself into local police and community issues, and he gave an anti-American and anti-Christian speech in Cairo, written for him by the Muslim Brotherhood. So, in short, fuck that guy.

    Could you provide the anti American and anti Christian quotes from that speech?
    More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies without regard to their own aspirations.

    And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.

    Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.

    Likewise, it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit – for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear. We cannot disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism.

    I reject the view of some in the West that a woman who chooses to cover her hair is somehow less equal, but I do believe that a woman who is denied an education is denied equality.

    And more, but unless you're brain dead, this should suffice.
    Sounds like speech supporting the first amendment. Except in your idiotic view that all Muslims was to kill all Christians.
    Mooselimbs killing Christians has been well been proven since the 5th and 6th century.
    It's not just Christians. Muslims just kill. Christians, Jews, Hondos, Buddhists, they kill. Not all Muslims, don't twist. But a hell of a lot of them.

    BTW, Muslims are even more dangerous to each other than anyone else. Where's the outcry about Muslim on Muslim crime??
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    @RaceBannon as frustrated as I’ve become with where you are politically right now I am genuinely interested in your opinion here. Do you agree with @TurdBuffer that those quotes are anti American and anti Christian? Because I don’t agree with some of what Obama said there, I do think Islam is part of the problem but calling it anti American and anti Christian seems like a massive overreaction. What do you think?
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    I voted for him twice and gave him his best shot at doing something useful for the country in 8 years. Meanwhile, as he sat on his skinny ass and did nothing, colleges plunged deeper into Marxism and abandonment of constitutional rights during the supposed campus "rape epidemic" that never existed, race relations deteriorated as he injected himself into local police and community issues, and he gave an anti-American and anti-Christian speech in Cairo, written for him by the Muslim Brotherhood. So, in short, fuck that guy.

    Could you provide the anti American and anti Christian quotes from that speech?
    More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies without regard to their own aspirations.

    And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.

    Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.

    Likewise, it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit – for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear. We cannot disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism.

    I reject the view of some in the West that a woman who chooses to cover her hair is somehow less equal, but I do believe that a woman who is denied an education is denied equality.

    And more, but unless you're brain dead, this should suffice.
    Sounds like speech supporting the first amendment. Except in your idiotic view that all Muslims was to kill all Christians.
    Mooselimbs killing Christians has been well been proven since the 5th and 6th century.
    It's not just Christians. Muslims just kill. Christians, Jews, Hondos, Buddhists, they kill. Not all Muslims, don't twist. But a hell of a lot of them.

    BTW, Muslims are even more dangerous to each other than anyone else. Where's the outcry about Muslim on Muslim crime??
    True they kill every non-mooselimb they can. They will nuke Israel if they get the chance. Shiite vs. Sunni stuff is very real. Killing each other means less to kill us.

    I'm not saying they're all bad but those who claim they're peaceful do nothing about the crazies and often support them financially.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    Do you really want to compare Obama gaffes to Trump's gaffes? Really Derek? You are smarter than that.
    It's less an Obama gaffe than a media gaffe, a point Dennis Miller made on his old radio show (rip). Stephanapoulus, ostensibly a journalist, corrected a statement by a politician. A journalist asks for clarification. Speechwriters edit. No one gets that kind of treatment, or should.

    Obama is more likely a fully secular agnostic than either Christian or Muslim.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    2001400ex said:

    Do you really want to compare Obama gaffes to Trump's gaffes? Really Derek? You are smarter than that.
    It's less an Obama gaffe than a media gaffe, a point Dennis Miller made on his old radio show (rip). Stephanapoulus, ostensibly a journalist, corrected a statement by a politician. A journalist asks for clarification. Speechwriters edit. No one gets that kind of treatment, or should.

    Obama is more likely a fully secular agnostic than either Christian or Muslim.
    My take from the beginning.

    Well said.

    It's almost like Steppenwolfapapalous isn't an unbiased journalist and has picked a side or something.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    @RaceBannon as frustrated as I’ve become with where you are politically right now I am genuinely interested in your opinion here. Do you agree with @TurdBuffer that those quotes are anti American and anti Christian? Because I don’t agree with some of what Obama said there, I do think Islam is part of the problem but calling it anti American and anti Christian seems like a massive overreaction. What do you think?

    To understand what is Anti-American about those passages, you must understand the importance and role of Geopolitical Power throughout the world. Obama's obsequiousness toward Islamic culture, while in a Middle Eastern country surrounded by de-facto Islamic religious theocracies was over-the-top fealty-like behavior from an American president. If he wants to kiss the ass of muslims because his daddy was one, he can do that on his own time and dime. Projecting weakness and uncertainty, making moral equivalencies and apologizing for the role of the West in the current Middle East's chaos was spineless and stupid. And the fact that the speech had to be vetted, edited and approved by the Muslim Brotherhood, who had their man Morsi in control of Egypt at the time was a giant step back in political progress at that time. The compromised and corrupt Morsi was eventually removed from office by the Egyptian people for his intolerant dictatorial ways, which were only emboldened by Obama's apologizing for the West supposedly fucking up what would otherwise be an Islamic Utopia, as so many delusional "blame America first" types love to believe, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.

    And it wasn't just Obama. His state department mouthpieces all voiced the old trope that jobs, education and economic help was the answer to all the problems in the middle east and America's fault for not doing enough of, even though all 19 hi-jackers on 9/11 were well educated, upper middle class men. A child can figure out the bullshit, but not Obama, suckered by his daddy's religion. Sad.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Or some people have read the first amendment and the freedom of religion.
  • sarktasticsarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Good idea. You should read the first amendment
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    I believe that Obama was born in Hawaii but he did at one point in his life claim that he w

    2001400ex said:

    Do you really want to compare Obama gaffes to Trump's gaffes? Really Derek? You are smarter than that.
    It's less an Obama gaffe than a media gaffe, a point Dennis Miller made on his old radio show (rip). Stephanapoulus, ostensibly a journalist, corrected a statement by a politician. A journalist asks for clarification. Speechwriters edit. No one gets that kind of treatment, or should.

    Obama is more likely a fully secular agnostic than either Christian or Muslim.

    I'd agree with that, like most liberals Obama's God is the state and liberalism.

  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    @RaceBannon as frustrated as I’ve become with where you are politically right now I am genuinely interested in your opinion here. Do you agree with @TurdBuffer that those quotes are anti American and anti Christian? Because I don’t agree with some of what Obama said there, I do think Islam is part of the problem but calling it anti American and anti Christian seems like a massive overreaction. What do you think?

    To understand what is Anti-American about those passages, you must understand the importance and role of Geopolitical Power throughout the world. Obama's obsequiousness toward Islamic culture, while in a Middle Eastern country surrounded by de-facto Islamic religious theocracies was over-the-top fealty-like behavior from an American president. If he wants to kiss the ass of muslims because his daddy was one, he can do that on his own time and dime. Projecting weakness and uncertainty, making moral equivalencies and apologizing for the role of the West in the current Middle East's chaos was spineless and stupid. And the fact that the speech had to be vetted, edited and approved by the Muslim Brotherhood, who had their man Morsi in control of Egypt at the time was a giant step back in political progress at that time. The compromised and corrupt Morsi was eventually removed from office by the Egyptian people for his intolerant dictatorial ways, which were only emboldened by Obama's apologizing for the West supposedly fucking up what would otherwise be an Islamic Utopia, as so many delusional "blame America first" types love to believe, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.

    And it wasn't just Obama. His state department mouthpieces all voiced the old trope that jobs, education and economic help was the answer to all the problems in the middle east and America's fault for not doing enough of, even though all 19 hi-jackers on 9/11 were well educated, upper middle class men. A child can figure out the bullshit, but not Obama, suckered by his daddy's religion. Sad.
    That speech was given in 2009. The Arab spring began in Egypt in 2011 and Morsi wasn’t elected until 2012. But don’t let that stop you from more conspiracy peddling.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter

    I voted for him twice and gave him his best shot at doing something useful for the country in 8 years. Meanwhile, as he sat on his skinny ass and did nothing, colleges plunged deeper into Marxism and abandonment of constitutional rights during the supposed campus "rape epidemic" that never existed, race relations deteriorated as he injected himself into local police and community issues, and he gave an anti-American and anti-Christian speech in Cairo, written for him by the Muslim Brotherhood. So, in short, fuck that guy.

    Could you provide the anti American and anti Christian quotes from that speech?
    More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies without regard to their own aspirations.

    And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.

    Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.

    Likewise, it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit – for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear. We cannot disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism.

    I reject the view of some in the West that a woman who chooses to cover her hair is somehow less equal, but I do believe that a woman who is denied an education is denied equality.

    And more, but unless you're brain dead, this should suffice.
    Yeah, I don't see it here. I believe Obama sees himself as a globalist and not huge fan of this country, but find a better example than that.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    @RaceBannon as frustrated as I’ve become with where you are politically right now I am genuinely interested in your opinion here. Do you agree with @TurdBuffer that those quotes are anti American and anti Christian? Because I don’t agree with some of what Obama said there, I do think Islam is part of the problem but calling it anti American and anti Christian seems like a massive overreaction. What do you think?

    To understand what is Anti-American about those passages, you must understand the importance and role of Geopolitical Power throughout the world. Obama's obsequiousness toward Islamic culture, while in a Middle Eastern country surrounded by de-facto Islamic religious theocracies was over-the-top fealty-like behavior from an American president. If he wants to kiss the ass of muslims because his daddy was one, he can do that on his own time and dime. Projecting weakness and uncertainty, making moral equivalencies and apologizing for the role of the West in the current Middle East's chaos was spineless and stupid. And the fact that the speech had to be vetted, edited and approved by the Muslim Brotherhood, who had their man Morsi in control of Egypt at the time was a giant step back in political progress at that time. The compromised and corrupt Morsi was eventually removed from office by the Egyptian people for his intolerant dictatorial ways, which were only emboldened by Obama's apologizing for the West supposedly fucking up what would otherwise be an Islamic Utopia, as so many delusional "blame America first" types love to believe, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.

    And it wasn't just Obama. His state department mouthpieces all voiced the old trope that jobs, education and economic help was the answer to all the problems in the middle east and America's fault for not doing enough of, even though all 19 hi-jackers on 9/11 were well educated, upper middle class men. A child can figure out the bullshit, but not Obama, suckered by his daddy's religion. Sad.
    That speech was given in 2009. The Arab spring began in Egypt in 2011 and Morsi wasn’t elected until 2012. But don’t let that stop you from more conspiracy peddling.
    You're right that Morsi was elected after that speech, not before. My bad. Everything else is true and accurate.
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    @RaceBannon as frustrated as I’ve become with where you are politically right now I am genuinely interested in your opinion here. Do you agree with @TurdBuffer that those quotes are anti American and anti Christian? Because I don’t agree with some of what Obama said there, I do think Islam is part of the problem but calling it anti American and anti Christian seems like a massive overreaction. What do you think?

    To understand what is Anti-American about those passages, you must understand the importance and role of Geopolitical Power throughout the world. Obama's obsequiousness toward Islamic culture, while in a Middle Eastern country surrounded by de-facto Islamic religious theocracies was over-the-top fealty-like behavior from an American president. If he wants to kiss the ass of muslims because his daddy was one, he can do that on his own time and dime. Projecting weakness and uncertainty, making moral equivalencies and apologizing for the role of the West in the current Middle East's chaos was spineless and stupid. And the fact that the speech had to be vetted, edited and approved by the Muslim Brotherhood, who had their man Morsi in control of Egypt at the time was a giant step back in political progress at that time. The compromised and corrupt Morsi was eventually removed from office by the Egyptian people for his intolerant dictatorial ways, which were only emboldened by Obama's apologizing for the West supposedly fucking up what would otherwise be an Islamic Utopia, as so many delusional "blame America first" types love to believe, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.

    And it wasn't just Obama. His state department mouthpieces all voiced the old trope that jobs, education and economic help was the answer to all the problems in the middle east and America's fault for not doing enough of, even though all 19 hi-jackers on 9/11 were well educated, upper middle class men. A child can figure out the bullshit, but not Obama, suckered by his daddy's religion. Sad.
    That speech was given in 2009. The Arab spring began in Egypt in 2011 and Morsi wasn’t elected until 2012. But don’t let that stop you from more conspiracy peddling.
    You're right that Morsi was elected after that speech, not before. My bad. Everything else is true and accurate.
    Yeah, right, and the speech “was vetted, edited, and approved by the Muslim Brotherhood”. Try getting even the most basic, easily checkable facts correct first.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    @RaceBannon as frustrated as I’ve become with where you are politically right now I am genuinely interested in your opinion here. Do you agree with @TurdBuffer that those quotes are anti American and anti Christian? Because I don’t agree with some of what Obama said there, I do think Islam is part of the problem but calling it anti American and anti Christian seems like a massive overreaction. What do you think?

    To understand what is Anti-American about those passages, you must understand the importance and role of Geopolitical Power throughout the world. Obama's obsequiousness toward Islamic culture, while in a Middle Eastern country surrounded by de-facto Islamic religious theocracies was over-the-top fealty-like behavior from an American president. If he wants to kiss the ass of muslims because his daddy was one, he can do that on his own time and dime. Projecting weakness and uncertainty, making moral equivalencies and apologizing for the role of the West in the current Middle East's chaos was spineless and stupid. And the fact that the speech had to be vetted, edited and approved by the Muslim Brotherhood, who had their man Morsi in control of Egypt at the time was a giant step back in political progress at that time. The compromised and corrupt Morsi was eventually removed from office by the Egyptian people for his intolerant dictatorial ways, which were only emboldened by Obama's apologizing for the West supposedly fucking up what would otherwise be an Islamic Utopia, as so many delusional "blame America first" types love to believe, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.

    And it wasn't just Obama. His state department mouthpieces all voiced the old trope that jobs, education and economic help was the answer to all the problems in the middle east and America's fault for not doing enough of, even though all 19 hi-jackers on 9/11 were well educated, upper middle class men. A child can figure out the bullshit, but not Obama, suckered by his daddy's religion. Sad.
    That speech was given in 2009. The Arab spring began in Egypt in 2011 and Morsi wasn’t elected until 2012. But don’t let that stop you from more conspiracy peddling.
    You're right that Morsi was elected after that speech, not before. My bad. Everything else is true and accurate.
    Wait for Bob to swoop in and call you a liar. And repeat it day after day. Come on Bob. He lied. Call him out. Pussy.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club

    @RaceBannon as frustrated as I’ve become with where you are politically right now I am genuinely interested in your opinion here. Do you agree with @TurdBuffer that those quotes are anti American and anti Christian? Because I don’t agree with some of what Obama said there, I do think Islam is part of the problem but calling it anti American and anti Christian seems like a massive overreaction. What do you think?

    I appreciate the interest. I didn't read his post. I remember the uproar when Obama gave the speech but was not outraged

    Obama is an American. I agree he is likely an atheist but politicians still won't admit that.

    Obama has a view of America that is common on the left and shares the lefts odd fascination with Jihadis but at the end of the day Obama is no more dangerous than hondo. Big talk but won't really take a hard stand.

    Don't agree but don't hate. In real life I welcome opposing views which is why I will stand up for folks here like you that I may not agree with because you aren't retarded

    And I've always leaned radical myself. One way or the other
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    2001400ex said:

    @RaceBannon as frustrated as I’ve become with where you are politically right now I am genuinely interested in your opinion here. Do you agree with @TurdBuffer that those quotes are anti American and anti Christian? Because I don’t agree with some of what Obama said there, I do think Islam is part of the problem but calling it anti American and anti Christian seems like a massive overreaction. What do you think?

    To understand what is Anti-American about those passages, you must understand the importance and role of Geopolitical Power throughout the world. Obama's obsequiousness toward Islamic culture, while in a Middle Eastern country surrounded by de-facto Islamic religious theocracies was over-the-top fealty-like behavior from an American president. If he wants to kiss the ass of muslims because his daddy was one, he can do that on his own time and dime. Projecting weakness and uncertainty, making moral equivalencies and apologizing for the role of the West in the current Middle East's chaos was spineless and stupid. And the fact that the speech had to be vetted, edited and approved by the Muslim Brotherhood, who had their man Morsi in control of Egypt at the time was a giant step back in political progress at that time. The compromised and corrupt Morsi was eventually removed from office by the Egyptian people for his intolerant dictatorial ways, which were only emboldened by Obama's apologizing for the West supposedly fucking up what would otherwise be an Islamic Utopia, as so many delusional "blame America first" types love to believe, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.

    And it wasn't just Obama. His state department mouthpieces all voiced the old trope that jobs, education and economic help was the answer to all the problems in the middle east and America's fault for not doing enough of, even though all 19 hi-jackers on 9/11 were well educated, upper middle class men. A child can figure out the bullshit, but not Obama, suckered by his daddy's religion. Sad.
    That speech was given in 2009. The Arab spring began in Egypt in 2011 and Morsi wasn’t elected until 2012. But don’t let that stop you from more conspiracy peddling.
    You're right that Morsi was elected after that speech, not before. My bad. Everything else is true and accurate.
    Wait for Bob to swoop in and call you a liar. And repeat it day after day. Come on Bob. He lied. Call him out. Pussy.
    Why would I call him a liar? He quickly admitted that he made a mistake and that he was in error. Everyone makes mistakes Hondo. Now compare that to the dozens and dozens of times you've talked straight out of your ass since I've been here and you were called on it. Not only do rarely if ever admit that you're wrong, and you're wrong all the fucking time, you engaged in a full Kunt act where you blamed others for not being able to read or for missing your point.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    @RaceBannon as frustrated as I’ve become with where you are politically right now I am genuinely interested in your opinion here. Do you agree with @TurdBuffer that those quotes are anti American and anti Christian? Because I don’t agree with some of what Obama said there, I do think Islam is part of the problem but calling it anti American and anti Christian seems like a massive overreaction. What do you think?

    To understand what is Anti-American about those passages, you must understand the importance and role of Geopolitical Power throughout the world. Obama's obsequiousness toward Islamic culture, while in a Middle Eastern country surrounded by de-facto Islamic religious theocracies was over-the-top fealty-like behavior from an American president. If he wants to kiss the ass of muslims because his daddy was one, he can do that on his own time and dime. Projecting weakness and uncertainty, making moral equivalencies and apologizing for the role of the West in the current Middle East's chaos was spineless and stupid. And the fact that the speech had to be vetted, edited and approved by the Muslim Brotherhood, who had their man Morsi in control of Egypt at the time was a giant step back in political progress at that time. The compromised and corrupt Morsi was eventually removed from office by the Egyptian people for his intolerant dictatorial ways, which were only emboldened by Obama's apologizing for the West supposedly fucking up what would otherwise be an Islamic Utopia, as so many delusional "blame America first" types love to believe, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary.

    And it wasn't just Obama. His state department mouthpieces all voiced the old trope that jobs, education and economic help was the answer to all the problems in the middle east and America's fault for not doing enough of, even though all 19 hi-jackers on 9/11 were well educated, upper middle class men. A child can figure out the bullshit, but not Obama, suckered by his daddy's religion. Sad.
    That speech was given in 2009. The Arab spring began in Egypt in 2011 and Morsi wasn’t elected until 2012. But don’t let that stop you from more conspiracy peddling.
    You're right that Morsi was elected after that speech, not before. My bad. Everything else is true and accurate.
    Wait for Bob to swoop in and call you a liar. And repeat it day after day. Come on Bob. He lied. Call him out. Pussy.
    Why would I call him a liar? He quickly admitted that he made a mistake and that he was in error. Everyone makes mistakes Hondo. Now compare that to the dozens and dozens of times you've talked straight out of your ass since I've been here and you were called on it. Not only do rarely if ever admit that you're wrong, and you're wrong all the fucking time, you engaged in a full Kunt act where you blamed others for not being able to read or for missing your point.
    Just like I quickly discussed the 60,000 immigrants that you still bring up. Or you take a word out of context and call it a lie.

    Reality is, you don't do that when the people you perceive are on your side make a mistake. Cause you are a conservative shill.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    edited November 2018
    I don't need defending. My stance is clear and consistent. Disagree if you must. I don't care.
    Here's a good critique of the speech, much in line with my views, for anyone interested. punditwire.com/2013/07/08/that-obama-2009-cairo-speech-in-retrospect/
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,203
    Your claim that "quickly discussed" and notice how the piece of shit still can't admit he was flat out wrong, is a lie. Not only didn't you "quickly" admit your head was up your ass, but your initial response was to double down and claim that I was stupid and just didn't understand what you were really trying to say. After giving you shit for 24 hours you finally settled how we had both been wrong because you were talking about Green Card holders, which was another lie. Nothing in the original exchange dealt the number of with Green Card holders, after continuing to give you shit, you decided to get cute and claim that when I referred to your 60K claim that I was talking about money.

    You never once admitted that you and you alone were wrong and that you had your head up your ass all along. You deflected, you tried to change the topic, and you lied all in an effort to avoid admitting you were talking out your ass.

    Now compare that what TB just did.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Your claim that "quickly discussed" and notice how the piece of shit still can't admit he was flat out wrong, is a lie. Not only didn't you "quickly" admit your head was up your ass, but your initial response was to double down and claim that I was stupid and just didn't understand what you were really trying to say. After giving you shit for 24 hours you finally settled how we had both been wrong because you were talking about Green Card holders, which was another lie. Nothing in the original exchange dealt the number of with Green Card holders, after continuing to give you shit, you decided to get cute and claim that when I referred to your 60K claim that I was talking about money.

    You never once admitted that you and you alone were wrong and that you had your head up your ass all along. You deflected, you tried to change the topic, and you lied all in an effort to avoid admitting you were talking out your ass.

    Now compare that what TB just did.

    See?
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