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Want to know what roster mismanagement looks like? Look at our ILBs.
Dennis_DeYoung
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This clown Bobby Greggy KNOWS we want to rotate 6 guys. Okay... so start from the premise we need 6 ILBs (WHICH IS THE EASIEST BODY TYPE TO FIND) available to play at all times. Which really isn't hard to do because even though I prefer guys like Dave Hoffmann to BBK, it's really easy to find 6-1, 215 guys who are athletic enough to play in the Pac-12. Or 5-10, 195 kids in the case of BBK. But whatever.
So... in 2014 we took Drew Lewis - who because we are so fucking sensitive about our amazing vetting process - we basically ran him off (he originally committed to Sark and we 'honored' his commitment). Now he's an AC LB for Colorada. Fuck us, seriously.
...and that's it. So at ILB in '14 we have: NO ONE.
In 2015 we took BBK (really undersized), DJ Beavers (just undersized), Kyler Manu (who was a BUCK recruit at the tim and also wasn't good) and Tevis.
We didn't redshirt Tevis or BBK for reasons I will never understand. Good thing we got that 2015 season out of them! It would be a shame to have both of them back next year for their RS-Sr years. I'm sure it was worth it in 2015 to play them.
BUT WAIT... that's not the only massive fuck up. The other good news is we played Tevis at SAM, which was not really a natural position for him, so in addition to not redshirting him, we played him out of position for 3 years, then moved him into his natural position for his last season, which I'm sure maximizes his chances to be good at that position.
...oh wait. It doesn't. It actually just made his career a mish-mash of useless bullshit where he was not a natural at his first position, but he flew threw three years there and then we moved him to his 'natural' position so he could learn a whole new position the year that we decided to have no one at DT. SUPER DUPER!!!
If I were the Bartlett family I would fucking sue Pete. He should've gone to Wyoming. Seriously. Makes me sad to say it, but we really fucked Tevis over.
OK! On to 2016...
So, this was Bobby Greggy's best year recruiting, by far. Eifler and Welly. So, 'Throw them out there Bob' decided to go ahead and not redshirt Welly even though he's undersized and definitely needed to gain size (isn't it weird that the guys that don't redshirt have a much higher incidence of injury?). I love that we couldn't find some walk ons in 2016 to pick up garbage time for us. If you recall, we never really even played a close game in 2016 - @Ariz and @Utah were the closest. Welly didn't play in those games, lol.
Eifler is black, so he didn't get along with Gregory, we moved him outside and then he left. Greggy don't do melanin.
So far "Throw Them Out There Bob" has not done one fucking thing right.
What happened in 2017? Bobby Greggy slept through that recruiting cycle and got: no one. Good job Bob!
On to 2018... Bobby Greggy got gifted Sirmon (Peter was a coach under Pete and knows that Pete is legit - BG didn't have to do shit) and then offered Tafisi after we missed everyone else. He looks good, but he's undersized.
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So, in conclusion - THIS is how you fuck up a roster. Don't redshirt kids, move them around needlessly, forget to recruit for a couple years, be a member of the KKK, you know, just your average stuff. Good thing we passed on Merlin.
Just so we are keeping tally on the Racial Draft Bob has recruited:
2 black kids (Eifler and DJB) and was forced to take one (Lewis). Two of the three have left.
2 mixed Poly kids (Welly and Manu) who have done nothing.
1 Poly kid (Tafisi) who is a frosh.
3 white kids (BBK, Tevis, Sirmon), two of which rose to the top, which I'm sure was PURE COINCIDENCE based on the racial superiority of whites in football.
He also didn't get along with Azeem and benched him for BBK.
GREAT JOB BOB!!!
Also, kudos on your special teams coaching.
I hope you enjoy being DC at Liberty. FUCK YOU.
So... in 2014 we took Drew Lewis - who because we are so fucking sensitive about our amazing vetting process - we basically ran him off (he originally committed to Sark and we 'honored' his commitment). Now he's an AC LB for Colorada. Fuck us, seriously.
...and that's it. So at ILB in '14 we have: NO ONE.
In 2015 we took BBK (really undersized), DJ Beavers (just undersized), Kyler Manu (who was a BUCK recruit at the tim and also wasn't good) and Tevis.
We didn't redshirt Tevis or BBK for reasons I will never understand. Good thing we got that 2015 season out of them! It would be a shame to have both of them back next year for their RS-Sr years. I'm sure it was worth it in 2015 to play them.
BUT WAIT... that's not the only massive fuck up. The other good news is we played Tevis at SAM, which was not really a natural position for him, so in addition to not redshirting him, we played him out of position for 3 years, then moved him into his natural position for his last season, which I'm sure maximizes his chances to be good at that position.
...oh wait. It doesn't. It actually just made his career a mish-mash of useless bullshit where he was not a natural at his first position, but he flew threw three years there and then we moved him to his 'natural' position so he could learn a whole new position the year that we decided to have no one at DT. SUPER DUPER!!!
If I were the Bartlett family I would fucking sue Pete. He should've gone to Wyoming. Seriously. Makes me sad to say it, but we really fucked Tevis over.
OK! On to 2016...
So, this was Bobby Greggy's best year recruiting, by far. Eifler and Welly. So, 'Throw them out there Bob' decided to go ahead and not redshirt Welly even though he's undersized and definitely needed to gain size (isn't it weird that the guys that don't redshirt have a much higher incidence of injury?). I love that we couldn't find some walk ons in 2016 to pick up garbage time for us. If you recall, we never really even played a close game in 2016 - @Ariz and @Utah were the closest. Welly didn't play in those games, lol.
Eifler is black, so he didn't get along with Gregory, we moved him outside and then he left. Greggy don't do melanin.
So far "Throw Them Out There Bob" has not done one fucking thing right.
What happened in 2017? Bobby Greggy slept through that recruiting cycle and got: no one. Good job Bob!
On to 2018... Bobby Greggy got gifted Sirmon (Peter was a coach under Pete and knows that Pete is legit - BG didn't have to do shit) and then offered Tafisi after we missed everyone else. He looks good, but he's undersized.
...
...
...
So, in conclusion - THIS is how you fuck up a roster. Don't redshirt kids, move them around needlessly, forget to recruit for a couple years, be a member of the KKK, you know, just your average stuff. Good thing we passed on Merlin.
Just so we are keeping tally on the Racial Draft Bob has recruited:
2 black kids (Eifler and DJB) and was forced to take one (Lewis). Two of the three have left.
2 mixed Poly kids (Welly and Manu) who have done nothing.
1 Poly kid (Tafisi) who is a frosh.
3 white kids (BBK, Tevis, Sirmon), two of which rose to the top, which I'm sure was PURE COINCIDENCE based on the racial superiority of whites in football.
He also didn't get along with Azeem and benched him for BBK.
GREAT JOB BOB!!!
Also, kudos on your special teams coaching.
I hope you enjoy being DC at Liberty. FUCK YOU.
Comments
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Unless guys are your best players and likely to start the next year, do not fucking play them. I'd rather have a 'Byron Murphy' error (redshirting when he could've played) than a Tevis, BBK, JoJo, Jordan Miller, DisslyDawg, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. error.
If it makes you feel any better Oregon starts Apelu who is the smallest ILB I I think I have ever seen at a P5 school. It's always the same thing, Apelu gets destroyed or gets a play made on him that he can't do anything about, we bring in ISM who makes plays and we force a punt, a turnover, or a TOD and the next drive he is standing there on the sideline.
The Pac-12 just isn't serious about football.
The talent pool coaching draws from are most often failed football players who don’t have any other clear options.
It’s just a bunch of idiots generally.
At that point I’d love to build in reasonable assumptions for RS and guys that don’t pan out ...
Not trying to excuse Gregory because he’s been shitastic as a recruiter but it would seem to me that you are always going to run the risk of a position group struggling with numbers, depth, etc from time to time
Perhaps a good topic for right after early signing day?
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/8/22/17606048/blue-chip-ratio-2018
You need 50% of your recruiting classes to be 4-star or higher on 247 composite over the course of four years, not counting players who transfer in and not deducting for players who don't make it to campus.
Skill guys are skill guys for the most part. They're all basically the same size and speed minus a small few outliers like John Ross and Royce Freeman.