Here's my issue with Peterman. He needs people that HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE about football to tell him he fucked up. As fucking soon as I saw he was settling for the field goal I FUCKING SCREAMED that it is 50-50 AT BEST for that kicker from that distance.
As I watched that clock tick down from 35 seconds to 3, after fucking MARCHING almost 70 yards, and with the dux on their heels, I fucking gasped in disbelief at how DUMB Peterson was being in that moment. Oregon had to defend End Zone shots, so moving the ball as they had been, the percentages were extremely high that UW would move the ball 5 to 15 yards closer, or more, to make the FG attempt a classic "Chip Shot." Pete's post-hoc rationale is bullshit. He choked. Once again. Like a Cougar. His hailed "honesty" about what he'd do different is PR, because he knows nobody has forgotten the AZ "chart" fiasco and never will.
The question he needed to be asked was this: "Why do you keep losing your balls when the game is on the line in a close game?" So, No, I don't think much of Pete's answers in light of that fact.
Actually, your idea that Oregon has to defend the end zone is absolutely wrong there. If we keep running plays there we probably call timeout before 3rd down as the clock was running and I think we had multiple timeouts available.
Oregon’s going to do 2 things on defense there ... sell out against the run to force 4th down, call timeout, and at least have a chance to do something with the ball. The other is to play heavy press coverage sitting on shorter routes trying to get an extra handful of yards.
Which means that if we decide to throw the ball it is Browning against a blitz throwing a 1 on 1 jump ball ... not his strength.
I firmly believe that had we picked up the 1st on 2nd down we’d have kept running plays.
I don’t think that this was just a spur of a moment decision where Pete froze and got conservative. With how planned out he is I’m sure this is a situation where they’ve worked through guidelines of what they want to do in varying circumstances.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Make the kick and nobody is saying anything. Run a play and either lose yards (with a missed kick) or a turnover and the ire to Pete increases.
In the end it’s a 37-38 yard kick that Henry has plenty of leg for ... he missed the kick.
There’s things I’d have probably done differently if I was Pete ... but it’s splitting hairs. At some point it just comes down to executing.
I'll take improving the chances of a made FG over the chances of a fumble.
Cringe.
You think Pete made the right call?
I would have ran the ball one more time to see if Mario was going to start burning his timeouts to not let him ice my guy three times. If not I would have let it run down and kicked it.
That's dangerous territory though. The defense doesn't care about yards anymore at that point and they are just going for the ball.
If the kid makes the field goal then Peterman is a genius, just like Mario would have been the man for getting the first down to put Stanford away, but CJ fumbled and he looked like an asshole.
Actually, your idea that Oregon has to defend the end zone is absolutely wrong there. If we keep running plays there we probably call timeout before 3rd down as the clock was running and I think we had multiple timeouts available.
Oregon’s going to do 2 things on defense there ... sell out against the run to force 4th down, call timeout, and at least have a chance to do something with the ball. The other is to play heavy press coverage sitting on shorter routes trying to get an extra handful of yards.
Which means that if we decide to throw the ball it is Browning against a blitz throwing a 1 on 1 jump ball ... not his strength.
I firmly believe that had we picked up the 1st on 2nd down we’d have kept running plays.
I don’t think that this was just a spur of a moment decision where Pete froze and got conservative. With how planned out he is I’m sure this is a situation where they’ve worked through guidelines of what they want to do in varying circumstances.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Make the kick and nobody is saying anything. Run a play and either lose yards (with a missed kick) or a turnover and the ire to Pete increases.
In the end it’s a 37-38 yard kick that Henry has plenty of leg for ... he missed the kick.
There’s things I’d have probably done differently if I was Pete ... but it’s splitting hairs. At some point it just comes down to executing.
Not running plays out of fear of failure is FS. That’s what losers do.
Actually, your idea that Oregon has to defend the end zone is absolutely wrong there. If we keep running plays there we probably call timeout before 3rd down as the clock was running and I think we had multiple timeouts available.
Oregon’s going to do 2 things on defense there ... sell out against the run to force 4th down, call timeout, and at least have a chance to do something with the ball. The other is to play heavy press coverage sitting on shorter routes trying to get an extra handful of yards.
Which means that if we decide to throw the ball it is Browning against a blitz throwing a 1 on 1 jump ball ... not his strength.
I firmly believe that had we picked up the 1st on 2nd down we’d have kept running plays.
I don’t think that this was just a spur of a moment decision where Pete froze and got conservative. With how planned out he is I’m sure this is a situation where they’ve worked through guidelines of what they want to do in varying circumstances.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Make the kick and nobody is saying anything. Run a play and either lose yards (with a missed kick) or a turnover and the ire to Pete increases.
In the end it’s a 37-38 yard kick that Henry has plenty of leg for ... he missed the kick.
There’s things I’d have probably done differently if I was Pete ... but it’s splitting hairs. At some point it just comes down to executing.
Not running plays out of fear of failure is FS. That’s what losers do.
Totally disagree ... and it isn’t out of a fear of failure
A coach’s job is to evaluate opportunity vs risk in these situations ... point still stands that if we don’t even get a kick off that he’s roasted far more (and deservedly so)
Actually, your idea that Oregon has to defend the end zone is absolutely wrong there. If we keep running plays there we probably call timeout before 3rd down as the clock was running and I think we had multiple timeouts available.
Oregon’s going to do 2 things on defense there ... sell out against the run to force 4th down, call timeout, and at least have a chance to do something with the ball. The other is to play heavy press coverage sitting on shorter routes trying to get an extra handful of yards.
Which means that if we decide to throw the ball it is Browning against a blitz throwing a 1 on 1 jump ball ... not his strength.
I firmly believe that had we picked up the 1st on 2nd down we’d have kept running plays.
I don’t think that this was just a spur of a moment decision where Pete froze and got conservative. With how planned out he is I’m sure this is a situation where they’ve worked through guidelines of what they want to do in varying circumstances.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Make the kick and nobody is saying anything. Run a play and either lose yards (with a missed kick) or a turnover and the ire to Pete increases.
In the end it’s a 37-38 yard kick that Henry has plenty of leg for ... he missed the kick.
There’s things I’d have probably done differently if I was Pete ... but it’s splitting hairs. At some point it just comes down to executing.
Having plenty of leg isn't the issue. He hasn't missed a kick yet because he didn't have the leg for it. He's missed plenty of kicks though.
Trusting a kicker who isn't trustworthy is FS. That's not splitting hairs.
I was screaming at the TV when we sat on the ball and told my wife we were missing the kick. It was obvious.
I beat for Pete but he fucked that one up, royally.
Actually, your idea that Oregon has to defend the end zone is absolutely wrong there. If we keep running plays there we probably call timeout before 3rd down as the clock was running and I think we had multiple timeouts available.
Oregon’s going to do 2 things on defense there ... sell out against the run to force 4th down, call timeout, and at least have a chance to do something with the ball. The other is to play heavy press coverage sitting on shorter routes trying to get an extra handful of yards.
Which means that if we decide to throw the ball it is Browning against a blitz throwing a 1 on 1 jump ball ... not his strength.
I firmly believe that had we picked up the 1st on 2nd down we’d have kept running plays.
I don’t think that this was just a spur of a moment decision where Pete froze and got conservative. With how planned out he is I’m sure this is a situation where they’ve worked through guidelines of what they want to do in varying circumstances.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Make the kick and nobody is saying anything. Run a play and either lose yards (with a missed kick) or a turnover and the ire to Pete increases.
In the end it’s a 37-38 yard kick that Henry has plenty of leg for ... he missed the kick.
There’s things I’d have probably done differently if I was Pete ... but it’s splitting hairs. At some point it just comes down to executing.
Having plenty of leg isn't the issue. He hasn't missed a kick yet because he didn't have the leg for it. He's missed plenty of kicks though.
Trusting a kicker who isn't trustworthy is FS. That's not splitting hairs.
I was screaming at the TV when we sat on the ball and told my life partner Roy we were missing the kick. It was obvious.
I beat for Pete but he fucked that one up, royally.
Actually, your idea that Oregon has to defend the end zone is absolutely wrong there. If we keep running plays there we probably call timeout before 3rd down as the clock was running and I think we had multiple timeouts available.
Oregon’s going to do 2 things on defense there ... sell out against the run to force 4th down, call timeout, and at least have a chance to do something with the ball. The other is to play heavy press coverage sitting on shorter routes trying to get an extra handful of yards.
Which means that if we decide to throw the ball it is Browning against a blitz throwing a 1 on 1 jump ball ... not his strength.
I firmly believe that had we picked up the 1st on 2nd down we’d have kept running plays.
I don’t think that this was just a spur of a moment decision where Pete froze and got conservative. With how planned out he is I’m sure this is a situation where they’ve worked through guidelines of what they want to do in varying circumstances.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Make the kick and nobody is saying anything. Run a play and either lose yards (with a missed kick) or a turnover and the ire to Pete increases.
In the end it’s a 37-38 yard kick that Henry has plenty of leg for ... he missed the kick.
There’s things I’d have probably done differently if I was Pete ... but it’s splitting hairs. At some point it just comes down to executing.
There's the fear component, right there. Good QB's relish punishing the blitz. So do good coaches. If the dux sell out to stop the run, any completion results in big yards (and a much higher FG %) or a TD. Both were better options than running down the clock and trying a FG in that situation.
So essentially what you're saying, Teq, is that Pete trusts his kicker better than his QB in that situation. And how pathetic is that?
Actually, your idea that Oregon has to defend the end zone is absolutely wrong there. If we keep running plays there we probably call timeout before 3rd down as the clock was running and I think we had multiple timeouts available.
Oregon’s going to do 2 things on defense there ... sell out against the run to force 4th down, call timeout, and at least have a chance to do something with the ball. The other is to play heavy press coverage sitting on shorter routes trying to get an extra handful of yards.
Which means that if we decide to throw the ball it is Browning against a blitz throwing a 1 on 1 jump ball ... not his strength.
I firmly believe that had we picked up the 1st on 2nd down we’d have kept running plays.
I don’t think that this was just a spur of a moment decision where Pete froze and got conservative. With how planned out he is I’m sure this is a situation where they’ve worked through guidelines of what they want to do in varying circumstances.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Make the kick and nobody is saying anything. Run a play and either lose yards (with a missed kick) or a turnover and the ire to Pete increases.
In the end it’s a 37-38 yard kick that Henry has plenty of leg for ... he missed the kick.
There’s things I’d have probably done differently if I was Pete ... but it’s splitting hairs. At some point it just comes down to executing.
You're right about that but it was the wrong decision even if Henry made it.
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The question he needed to be asked was this: "Why do you keep losing your balls when the game is on the line in a close game?" So, No, I don't think much of Pete's answers in light of that fact.
Oregon’s going to do 2 things on defense there ... sell out against the run to force 4th down, call timeout, and at least have a chance to do something with the ball. The other is to play heavy press coverage sitting on shorter routes trying to get an extra handful of yards.
Which means that if we decide to throw the ball it is Browning against a blitz throwing a 1 on 1 jump ball ... not his strength.
I firmly believe that had we picked up the 1st on 2nd down we’d have kept running plays.
I don’t think that this was just a spur of a moment decision where Pete froze and got conservative. With how planned out he is I’m sure this is a situation where they’ve worked through guidelines of what they want to do in varying circumstances.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Make the kick and nobody is saying anything. Run a play and either lose yards (with a missed kick) or a turnover and the ire to Pete increases.
In the end it’s a 37-38 yard kick that Henry has plenty of leg for ... he missed the kick.
There’s things I’d have probably done differently if I was Pete ... but it’s splitting hairs. At some point it just comes down to executing.
A coach’s job is to evaluate opportunity vs risk in these situations ... point still stands that if we don’t even get a kick off that he’s roasted far more (and deservedly so)
Trusting a kicker who isn't trustworthy is FS. That's not splitting hairs.
I was screaming at the TV when we sat on the ball and told my wife we were missing the kick. It was obvious.
I beat for Pete but he fucked that one up, royally.
Otis?
So essentially what you're saying, Teq, is that Pete trusts his kicker better than his QB in that situation. And how pathetic is that?
In that situation, you do whatever you can to make it a shorter FG try.
That's it, and that's all. Fuck all other arguments, explanations or defenses.
Pete: You fucked the dog on that one.
Play to score TD's.
Fuck FGs.
Of course you go for TDs first and FGs are a consolation prize. Well, for most teams anyway.