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Chip will struggle with Oregon, Stanford and Washington every year that he plays these teams. The others he might run over rather easily once his system is in place, but physical teams are his kryptonite.
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Utah?oregonblitzkrieg said:Chip will struggle with Oregon, Stanford and Washington every year that he plays these teams. The others he might run over rather easily once his system is in place, but physical teams are his kryptonite.
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They aren't on the same level. They're good, but still a lower tier PAC team. Doesn't mean they can't be a problem for every team on that list though.HillsboroDuck said:
Utah?oregonblitzkrieg said:Chip will struggle with Oregon, Stanford and Washington every year that he plays these teams. The others he might run over rather easily once his system is in place, but physical teams are his kryptonite.
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WSU pretty much has owned UCLA over the last 20 years. But keep on cowering in the corner.RaceBannon said:Yes it it ludicrous to think a guy with a 43-7 record at Oregon could win big at UCLA
The victims are the ones in denial on this simple little fact
Just one more team WSU will never climb over -
How am I cowering by thinking a 47-11 coach will be successful at a talent rich school?salemcoog said:
WSU pretty much has owned UCLA over the last 20 years. But keep on cowering in the corner.RaceBannon said:Yes it it ludicrous to think a guy with a 43-7 record at Oregon could win big at UCLA
The victims are the ones in denial on this simple little fact
Just one more team WSU will never climb over
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I stand with Chip. Us nazi fags gotta stick together!
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You’re believing Chip catches lightning in a bottle twice.RaceBannon said:
How am I cowering by thinking a 47-11 coach will be successful at a talent rich school?salemcoog said:
WSU pretty much has owned UCLA over the last 20 years. But keep on cowering in the corner.RaceBannon said:Yes it it ludicrous to think a guy with a 43-7 record at Oregon could win big at UCLA
The victims are the ones in denial on this simple little fact
Just one more team WSU will never climb over
In fact I kind of equate Chips success with Trumps Presidential victory. Both Trump and Chip changed the gayme. No one had ever seen anything like them before.
They initially said that Chips Offense was a gimmick and would never beat the better teams. But then He laid waste to opponent after opponent after opponent.
And then. Before you knew it, they were in the Natty. Trump won his Natty but Chip came up a bit short.
But unlike Trump, almost every other team copied what Chip was doing in some way even before He got to the Natty game.
And now Chip and Trump couldn’t be any more different. Trump continues to keep teams off balance with new plays. Whereas Chip has been forced to play status quo because his plays have been figured out. A victim of his own success really.
OT: If I get another “draft has been saved window” interruption when typing a sentence, I’m gonna find Mr Vanilla.
Bottom line is that Chip isn’t the innovator that He once was. Couple that with the dyed in the wool soft of UCLA Football and 8-4 is the ramped up. -
It was never about scheme. It was about culturesalemcoog said:
You’re believing Chip catches lightning in a bottle twice.RaceBannon said:
How am I cowering by thinking a 47-11 coach will be successful at a talent rich school?salemcoog said:
WSU pretty much has owned UCLA over the last 20 years. But keep on cowering in the corner.RaceBannon said:Yes it it ludicrous to think a guy with a 43-7 record at Oregon could win big at UCLA
The victims are the ones in denial on this simple little fact
Just one more team WSU will never climb over
In fact I kind of equate Chips success with Trumps Presidential victory. Both Trump and Chip changed the gayme. No one had ever seen anything like them before.
They initially said that Chips Offense was a gimmick and would never beat the better teams. But then He laid waste to opponent after opponent after opponent.
And then. Before you knew it, they were in the Natty. Trump won his Natty but Chip came up a bit short.
But unlike Trump, almost every other team copied what Chip was doing in some way even before He got to the Natty game.
And now Chip and Trump couldn’t be any more different. Trump continues to keep teams off balance with new plays. Whereas Chip has been forced to play status quo because his plays have been figured out. A victim of his own success really.
OT: If I get another “draft has been saved window” interruption when typing a sentence, I’m gonna find Mr Vanilla.
Bottom line is that Chip isn’t the innovator that He once was. Couple that with the dyed in the wool soft of UCLA Football and 8-4 is the ramped up. -
This is 100% false. Chip was great at Oregon because of scheme.JaWarrenJaHooker said:
It was never about scheme. It was about culturesalemcoog said:
You’re believing Chip catches lightning in a bottle twice.RaceBannon said:
How am I cowering by thinking a 47-11 coach will be successful at a talent rich school?salemcoog said:
WSU pretty much has owned UCLA over the last 20 years. But keep on cowering in the corner.RaceBannon said:Yes it it ludicrous to think a guy with a 43-7 record at Oregon could win big at UCLA
The victims are the ones in denial on this simple little fact
Just one more team WSU will never climb over
In fact I kind of equate Chips success with Trumps Presidential victory. Both Trump and Chip changed the gayme. No one had ever seen anything like them before.
They initially said that Chips Offense was a gimmick and would never beat the better teams. But then He laid waste to opponent after opponent after opponent.
And then. Before you knew it, they were in the Natty. Trump won his Natty but Chip came up a bit short.
But unlike Trump, almost every other team copied what Chip was doing in some way even before He got to the Natty game.
And now Chip and Trump couldn’t be any more different. Trump continues to keep teams off balance with new plays. Whereas Chip has been forced to play status quo because his plays have been figured out. A victim of his own success really.
OT: If I get another “draft has been saved window” interruption when typing a sentence, I’m gonna find Mr Vanilla.
Bottom line is that Chip isn’t the innovator that He once was. Couple that with the dyed in the wool soft of UCLA Football and 8-4 is the ramped up.
He never did beat the good ones though. He went .500 against Stanford and Rich Rod (who was Chip before Chip), and lost to Boise, tOSU, LSU, and Cam Newton.
He did beat Wisconsin and KState who are small timers.
Chip hit a perfect scenario at a perfect time against an awful conference. UW was awful, Wazzu was historically awful, USC had under 60 scholarship players (still beat him), and everyone else was their normal shit selves. -
It was about speed, speed, speed more than anything. Chip's scheme was brilliantly simple. He had like 4 plays, everyone knew what they were going to run and everyone knew they were going to run them as fast as they could. But nobody practiced at the tempo or had the ability to play that fast consistently enough to stop them, so the simplicity of the scheme enabled them to take advantage of tired/slow teams for huge gains.JaWarrenJaHooker said:
It was never about scheme. It was about culturesalemcoog said:
You’re believing Chip catches lightning in a bottle twice.RaceBannon said:
How am I cowering by thinking a 47-11 coach will be successful at a talent rich school?salemcoog said:
WSU pretty much has owned UCLA over the last 20 years. But keep on cowering in the corner.RaceBannon said:Yes it it ludicrous to think a guy with a 43-7 record at Oregon could win big at UCLA
The victims are the ones in denial on this simple little fact
Just one more team WSU will never climb over
In fact I kind of equate Chips success with Trumps Presidential victory. Both Trump and Chip changed the gayme. No one had ever seen anything like them before.
They initially said that Chips Offense was a gimmick and would never beat the better teams. But then He laid waste to opponent after opponent after opponent.
And then. Before you knew it, they were in the Natty. Trump won his Natty but Chip came up a bit short.
But unlike Trump, almost every other team copied what Chip was doing in some way even before He got to the Natty game.
And now Chip and Trump couldn’t be any more different. Trump continues to keep teams off balance with new plays. Whereas Chip has been forced to play status quo because his plays have been figured out. A victim of his own success really.
OT: If I get another “draft has been saved window” interruption when typing a sentence, I’m gonna find Mr Vanilla.
Bottom line is that Chip isn’t the innovator that He once was. Couple that with the dyed in the wool soft of UCLA Football and 8-4 is the ramped up.
The brilliance was in the way they practiced, which is culture, combined with a scheme that allowed them to maximize their cultural advantage.
The read option is not as exotic as it once was, but Kelly's Oregon teams would still kick ass with their speed and culture. The question is does Kelly give enough of a fuck now to instill that same culture at UCLA? I don't know the answer but if he does, he can win, and win big there even without the read option being as hard to scheme for there he can get better talent than he did at Oregon.
UCLA's total no show in recruiting this year suggests he might not give enough of a fuck to get it done though.
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You sound scaredsalemcoog said:
You’re believing Chip catches lightning in a bottle twice.RaceBannon said:
How am I cowering by thinking a 47-11 coach will be successful at a talent rich school?salemcoog said:
WSU pretty much has owned UCLA over the last 20 years. But keep on cowering in the corner.RaceBannon said:Yes it it ludicrous to think a guy with a 43-7 record at Oregon could win big at UCLA
The victims are the ones in denial on this simple little fact
Just one more team WSU will never climb over
In fact I kind of equate Chips success with Trumps Presidential victory. Both Trump and Chip changed the gayme. No one had ever seen anything like them before.
They initially said that Chips Offense was a gimmick and would never beat the better teams. But then He laid waste to opponent after opponent after opponent.
And then. Before you knew it, they were in the Natty. Trump won his Natty but Chip came up a bit short.
But unlike Trump, almost every other team copied what Chip was doing in some way even before He got to the Natty game.
And now Chip and Trump couldn’t be any more different. Trump continues to keep teams off balance with new plays. Whereas Chip has been forced to play status quo because his plays have been figured out. A victim of his own success really.
OT: If I get another “draft has been saved window” interruption when typing a sentence, I’m gonna find Mr Vanilla.
Bottom line is that Chip isn’t the innovator that He once was. Couple that with the dyed in the wool soft of UCLA Football and 8-4 is the ramped up.
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Ummm. Is the Alzheimer’s winning again? You’re the one cowering in the corner, afraid of the mighty juggernaut that will be UCLA.RaceBannon said:
You sound scaredsalemcoog said:
You’re believing Chip catches lightning in a bottle twice.RaceBannon said:
How am I cowering by thinking a 47-11 coach will be successful at a talent rich school?salemcoog said:
WSU pretty much has owned UCLA over the last 20 years. But keep on cowering in the corner.RaceBannon said:Yes it it ludicrous to think a guy with a 43-7 record at Oregon could win big at UCLA
The victims are the ones in denial on this simple little fact
Just one more team WSU will never climb over
In fact I kind of equate Chips success with Trumps Presidential victory. Both Trump and Chip changed the gayme. No one had ever seen anything like them before.
They initially said that Chips Offense was a gimmick and would never beat the better teams. But then He laid waste to opponent after opponent after opponent.
And then. Before you knew it, they were in the Natty. Trump won his Natty but Chip came up a bit short.
But unlike Trump, almost every other team copied what Chip was doing in some way even before He got to the Natty game.
And now Chip and Trump couldn’t be any more different. Trump continues to keep teams off balance with new plays. Whereas Chip has been forced to play status quo because his plays have been figured out. A victim of his own success really.
OT: If I get another “draft has been saved window” interruption when typing a sentence, I’m gonna find Mr Vanilla.
Bottom line is that Chip isn’t the innovator that He once was. Couple that with the dyed in the wool soft of UCLA Football and 8-4 is the ramped up.
And stupid
Probably tim for a long walk in the charred forest for some perspective. Be sure to bring a compass though. hate to see you disappear for a year again because you couldn’t afford a smart phone. -
Chip was really good because of a mix of scheme, culture, identity, and program continuation.
He kept most the Oregon assistants, tweaked things his way, and off they went. Oregon was serious about football too.
He has none of those things at UCLA. He's already made a ton of money. UCLA doesn't care about football. Look at their early recruiting. -
People often accuse others of what they see in themselvessalemcoog said:
Ummm. Is the Alzheimer’s winning again? You’re the one cowering in the corner, afraid of the mighty juggernaut that will be UCLA.RaceBannon said:
You sound scaredsalemcoog said:
You’re believing Chip catches lightning in a bottle twice.RaceBannon said:
How am I cowering by thinking a 47-11 coach will be successful at a talent rich school?salemcoog said:
WSU pretty much has owned UCLA over the last 20 years. But keep on cowering in the corner.RaceBannon said:Yes it it ludicrous to think a guy with a 43-7 record at Oregon could win big at UCLA
The victims are the ones in denial on this simple little fact
Just one more team WSU will never climb over
In fact I kind of equate Chips success with Trumps Presidential victory. Both Trump and Chip changed the gayme. No one had ever seen anything like them before.
They initially said that Chips Offense was a gimmick and would never beat the better teams. But then He laid waste to opponent after opponent after opponent.
And then. Before you knew it, they were in the Natty. Trump won his Natty but Chip came up a bit short.
But unlike Trump, almost every other team copied what Chip was doing in some way even before He got to the Natty game.
And now Chip and Trump couldn’t be any more different. Trump continues to keep teams off balance with new plays. Whereas Chip has been forced to play status quo because his plays have been figured out. A victim of his own success really.
OT: If I get another “draft has been saved window” interruption when typing a sentence, I’m gonna find Mr Vanilla.
Bottom line is that Chip isn’t the innovator that He once was. Couple that with the dyed in the wool soft of UCLA Football and 8-4 is the ramped up.
And stupid
Probably tim for a long walk in the charred forest for some perspective. Be sure to bring a compass though. hate to see you disappear for a year again because you couldn’t afford a smart phone.
I made a comment that one of the great coaches in college football this century would get it done at UCLA
You've been triggered ever since
Maybe try some gas and a match to see if it takes the fear away -
Kelly can't win big there even if he gets his system up and running because he won't be able to beat the best physical teams consistently, either in conference or out of conference. And another thing, it would just be revolting to have to watch the powder blue and gold pretty boys at UCLA try to copy our success. Oregon 2.0 they will never be.
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