People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
I'd agree with that. Most of the time, the people with the bad reputation have earned that bad rep. But that doesn't appear to be the case here. And smearing a man for something he might have done in high school, on this flimsy to non-existent "evidence" is fucking outrageous.
Gay bob is outraged!
@MikeDamone here’s the outrage you were looking for.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
If you really want to see it get ugly wait until one of the Court libs retires/dies and the GOP has a shot at putting a conservative into their seat. It will make this Kav hearing look like a Sunday picnic.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
If you really want to see it get ugly wait until one of the Court libs retires/dies and the GOP has a shot at putting a conservative into their seat. It will make this Kav hearing look like a Sunday picnic.
Agree with this. Gorsuch for Scalia and Kavs for Kennedy barely moves the needle. An Amy Coney Barrett for a Ruth Bader Ginsburg would lead the dems to go full jihadi in the senate.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
If you really want to see it get ugly wait until one of the Court libs retires/dies and the GOP has a shot at putting a conservative into their seat. It will make this Kav hearing look like a Sunday picnic.
Agree with this. Gorsuch for Scalia and Kavs for Kennedy barely moves the needle. An Amy Coney Barrett for a Ruth Bader Ginsburg would lead the dems to go full jihadi in the senate.
This. Can you even imagine? I read (weird I know) that Kavs is a smidge right of Kennedy, so I guess even that little bit of alignment got them frothy...but Sleepy Ginsburg for a firebrand dyed in the wool Scalia type...who is openly hostile to Roe v. Wade? Totally unhinged. That is must see TV though.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
If you really want to see it get ugly wait until one of the Court libs retires/dies and the GOP has a shot at putting a conservative into their seat. It will make this Kav hearing look like a Sunday picnic.
Agree with this. Gorsuch for Scalia and Kavs for Kennedy barely moves the needle. An Amy Coney Barrett for a Ruth Bader Ginsburg would lead the dems to go full jihadi in the senate.
This. Can you even imagine? I read (weird I know) that Kavs is a smidge right of Kennedy, so I guess even that little bit of alignment got them frothy...but Sleepy Ginsburg for a firebrand dyed in the wool Scalia type...who is openly hostile to Roe v. Wade? Totally unhinged. That is must see TV though.
Ginsburg and @RaceBannon dated in high school. That snag ain't ever dying.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
Without question, the only truly germane issue here is the timing of the appointment. Anyone who denies that is just fs.
And, of course, I don't blame the democrats for fighting that fight. McConnell does not have clean hands.
That said, notwithstanding some of his writings about natural law and related topics, many people who are actually familiar with SCOTUS goings on are scoring Gorsuch as a potential moderate who may not be the Scalia clone people thought he'd be. Sample size is small though. So it remains to be seen if the Republicans will really be in a position to stack the court.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
If you really want to see it get ugly wait until one of the Court libs retires/dies and the GOP has a shot at putting a conservative into their seat. It will make this Kav hearing look like a Sunday picnic.
Agree with this. Gorsuch for Scalia and Kavs for Kennedy barely moves the needle. An Amy Coney Barrett for a Ruth Bader Ginsburg would lead the dems to go full jihadi in the senate.
This. Can you even imagine? I read (weird I know) that Kavs is a smidge right of Kennedy, so I guess even that little bit of alignment got them frothy...but Sleepy Ginsburg for a firebrand dyed in the wool Scalia type...who is openly hostile to Roe v. Wade? Totally unhinged. That is must see TV though.
Ginsburg and @RaceBannon dated in high school. That snag ain't ever dying.
Dude. @RaceBannon was already a member of AARP when RBG was still learning her alphabet.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
Without question, the only truly germane issue here is the timing of the appointment. Anyone who denies that is just fs.
And, of course, I don't blame the democrats for fighting that fight. McConnell does not have clean hands.
That said, notwithstanding some of his writings about natural law and related topics, many people who are actually familiar with SCOTUS goings on are scoring Gorsuch as a potential moderate who may not be the Scalia clone people thought he'd be. Sample size is small though. So it remains to be seen if the Republicans will really be in a position to stack the court.
How come only conservative appointments switch sides after they get there? Whenever a lib Pres puts a lib on a court, they stay reliably liberal for life...they usually move further left, but half the time a GOP Pres puts a conservative up they swerve left within a couple years.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
Without question, the only truly germane issue here is the timing of the appointment. Anyone who denies that is just fs.
And, of course, I don't blame the democrats for fighting that fight. McConnell does not have clean hands.
That said, notwithstanding some of his writings about natural law and related topics, many people who are actually familiar with SCOTUS goings on are scoring Gorsuch as a potential moderate who may not be the Scalia clone people thought he'd be. Sample size is small though. So it remains to be seen if the Republicans will really be in a position to stack the court.
How come only conservative appointments switch sides after they get there? Whenever a lib Pres puts a lib on a court, they stay reliably liberal for life...they usually move further left, but half the time a GOP Pres puts a conservative up they swerve left within a couple years.
Got any examples of that happening? I'd like to learn more about that.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
Without question, the only truly germane issue here is the timing of the appointment. Anyone who denies that is just fs.
And, of course, I don't blame the democrats for fighting that fight. McConnell does not have clean hands.
That said, notwithstanding some of his writings about natural law and related topics, many people who are actually familiar with SCOTUS goings on are scoring Gorsuch as a potential moderate who may not be the Scalia clone people thought he'd be. Sample size is small though. So it remains to be seen if the Republicans will really be in a position to stack the court.
How come only conservative appointments switch sides after they get there? Whenever a lib Pres puts a lib on a court, they stay reliably liberal for life...they usually move further left, but half the time a GOP Pres puts a conservative up they swerve left within a couple years.
Got any examples of that happening? I'd like to learn more about that.
Roberts. But since the NSA etc. records EVERY communication they have plenty to be bribed with.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
Without question, the only truly germane issue here is the timing of the appointment. Anyone who denies that is just fs.
And, of course, I don't blame the democrats for fighting that fight. McConnell does not have clean hands.
That said, notwithstanding some of his writings about natural law and related topics, many people who are actually familiar with SCOTUS goings on are scoring Gorsuch as a potential moderate who may not be the Scalia clone people thought he'd be. Sample size is small though. So it remains to be seen if the Republicans will really be in a position to stack the court.
How come only conservative appointments switch sides after they get there? Whenever a lib Pres puts a lib on a court, they stay reliably liberal for life...they usually move further left, but half the time a GOP Pres puts a conservative up they swerve left within a couple years.
Got any examples of that happening? I'd like to learn more about that.
We've just begun to plumb the depths of Hondo's ignorance.
The number of Republican appointees who ended up being flaming libs and "moderates" is easily in the double figures in the last 60 years. I can only think of one Rat nominee who moved toward the right.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
Without question, the only truly germane issue here is the timing of the appointment. Anyone who denies that is just fs.
And, of course, I don't blame the democrats for fighting that fight. McConnell does not have clean hands.
That said, notwithstanding some of his writings about natural law and related topics, many people who are actually familiar with SCOTUS goings on are scoring Gorsuch as a potential moderate who may not be the Scalia clone people thought he'd be. Sample size is small though. So it remains to be seen if the Republicans will really be in a position to stack the court.
How come only conservative appointments switch sides after they get there? Whenever a lib Pres puts a lib on a court, they stay reliably liberal for life...they usually move further left, but half the time a GOP Pres puts a conservative up they swerve left within a couple years.
Not sure.
Maybe those guysm are really just liberals trying to make conservatives look bad. I hear people post as kewgs in an effert to clown them. Seems immature, but whatever.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
Without question, the only truly germane issue here is the timing of the appointment. Anyone who denies that is just fs.
And, of course, I don't blame the democrats for fighting that fight. McConnell does not have clean hands.
That said, notwithstanding some of his writings about natural law and related topics, many people who are actually familiar with SCOTUS goings on are scoring Gorsuch as a potential moderate who may not be the Scalia clone people thought he'd be. Sample size is small though. So it remains to be seen if the Republicans will really be in a position to stack the court.
How come only conservative appointments switch sides after they get there? Whenever a lib Pres puts a lib on a court, they stay reliably liberal for life...they usually move further left, but half the time a GOP Pres puts a conservative up they swerve left within a couple years.
Got any examples of that happening? I'd like to learn more about that.
Earl Warren and William Brennan were Eisenhower appointees. That's what you'd call a bait and switch any day, but then again, Eisenhower's Republican party bears little resemblance to today's BobSled Tea Party cackle of maniacs. Blackmun was a Nixon appointee. Doesn't get much more bait & switch than that. And Burger, also Nixon, supported Roe, though it's harder to call him a liberal justice across the board. He's been viewed as a moderate on balance in hindsight, but the guy who appointed him probably had more conservative expectations.
On the other side, you have White, a Kennedy appointee, who joined Rehnquist in the Roe dissent, but wasn't an across-the-board conservative. That's true for a lot of them, even Scalia. Thomas, he of never asking a question in oral argument, is considered by many among the most consistently conservative justices.
Herbert Walker picked Souter, a supposed plain meaning, strict constructionist "look up the word in the dictionary" jurist like Scalia, and he of course has turned out to be a consistently liberal justice.
So it's basically true was @Swaye said, though if you go back further in history there are a lot of examples of the other swing. That said, most of these guys can't be jammed into one box super neatly, which indicates that the institution has worked over time.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
Without question, the only truly germane issue here is the timing of the appointment. Anyone who denies that is just fs.
And, of course, I don't blame the democrats for fighting that fight. McConnell does not have clean hands.
That said, notwithstanding some of his writings about natural law and related topics, many people who are actually familiar with SCOTUS goings on are scoring Gorsuch as a potential moderate who may not be the Scalia clone people thought he'd be. Sample size is small though. So it remains to be seen if the Republicans will really be in a position to stack the court.
How come only conservative appointments switch sides after they get there? Whenever a lib Pres puts a lib on a court, they stay reliably liberal for life...they usually move further left, but half the time a GOP Pres puts a conservative up they swerve left within a couple years.
Got any examples of that happening? I'd like to learn more about that.
Earl Warren and William Brennan were Eisenhower appointees. That's what you'd call a bait and switch any day, but then again, Eisenhower's Republican party bears little resemblance to today's BobSled Tea Party cackle of maniacs. Blackmun was a Nixon appointee. Doesn't get much more bait & switch than that. And Burger, also Nixon, supported Roe, though it's harder to call him a liberal justice across the board. He's been viewed as a moderate on balance in hindsight, but the guy who appointed him probably had more conservative expectations.
On the other side, you have White, a Kennedy appointee, who joined Rehnquist in the Roe dissent, but wasn't an across-the-board conservative. That's true for a lot of them, even Scalia. Thomas, he of never asking a question in oral argument, is considered by many among the most consistently conservative justices.
Herbert Walker picked Souter, a supposed plain meaning, strict constructionist "look up the word in the dictionary" jurist like Scalia, and he of course has turned out to be a consistently liberal justice.
So it's basically true was @Swaye said, though if you go back further in history there are a lot of examples of the other swing. That said, most of these guys can't be jammed into one box super neatly, which indicates that the institution has worked over time.
Chinteresting. I'm going to have to research that more. But the overreaching theme seems to be that justices get more liberal as they read more into the Constitution.
People's reputations typically suffer at their own hands. They might blame someone else, but the fault is usually theirs.
You know I'm right, Race.
It's his fault they made this shit up out of thin air?
Sure
The attempted rape part, or the lying motherfucker part?
If he was man enough to just say, "Sure, I got wasted quite a bit in college - but I never raped that woman, or even attempted to.", then it would be water under the bridge already. But he's a fucking liar who had to make up some bullshit story about being an angel in college.
Nope, he isn't man enough. He's a fucking chump. If he wasn't a fucking liar, his reputation would be intact, other than with a small percentage a people who would believe anything said if it was negative.
Right? Of course I am.
Come on, you know better than this. I'll even concede he did lie. But no matter what he said you and I both know nothing would have stopped this. Nothing. The Dems were always going scorched Earth on this one.
Of course they were - but that dumbfuck made sure to give them all the ammunition they needed to actually have a chance to derail his nomination.
Otherwise the Democrats had no chance of holding it up. None.
Don't lean into a fucking punch.
I totally get what you are saying...I just think that Kav was put into God's little acre here, east of a rock, and west of a hard place. The Dems did not want the 5th vote moving right, and so I think no matter what Kavs did anywhere in this process they were going to pull out all the stops to stop him. Kavs probably does have some misteps along the way, but he held his shit better than I would have. As soon as Blumenthal lectured him with "we need honesty" I would have been over that table and skull fucked him.
Without question, the only truly germane issue here is the timing of the appointment. Anyone who denies that is just fs.
And, of course, I don't blame the democrats for fighting that fight. McConnell does not have clean hands.
That said, notwithstanding some of his writings about natural law and related topics, many people who are actually familiar with SCOTUS goings on are scoring Gorsuch as a potential moderate who may not be the Scalia clone people thought he'd be. Sample size is small though. So it remains to be seen if the Republicans will really be in a position to stack the court.
How come only conservative appointments switch sides after they get there? Whenever a lib Pres puts a lib on a court, they stay reliably liberal for life...they usually move further left, but half the time a GOP Pres puts a conservative up they swerve left within a couple years.
Got any examples of that happening? I'd like to learn more about that.
Earl Warren and William Brennan were Eisenhower appointees. That's what you'd call a bait and switch any day, but then again, Eisenhower's Republican party bears little resemblance to today's BobSled Tea Party cackle of maniacs. Blackmun was a Nixon appointee. Doesn't get much more bait & switch than that. And Burger, also Nixon, supported Roe, though it's harder to call him a liberal justice across the board. He's been viewed as a moderate on balance in hindsight, but the guy who appointed him probably had more conservative expectations.
On the other side, you have White, a Kennedy appointee, who joined Rehnquist in the Roe dissent, but wasn't an across-the-board conservative. That's true for a lot of them, even Scalia. Thomas, he of never asking a question in oral argument, is considered by many among the most consistently conservative justices.
Herbert Walker picked Souter, a supposed plain meaning, strict constructionist "look up the word in the dictionary" jurist like Scalia, and he of course has turned out to be a consistently liberal justice.
So it's basically true was @Swaye said, though if you go back further in history there are a lot of examples of the other swing. That said, most of these guys can't be jammed into one box super neatly, which indicates that the institution has worked over time.
Chinteresting. I'm going to have to research that more. But the overreaching theme seems to be that justices get more liberal as they read more into the Constitution.
Where do you get the “read more into the Constitution” other than your ignorant ass?
The get more liberal the longer they are in the spotlight in DC
After all that ass tonguing you did for Coug good to see him give you a reach around.
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And, of course, I don't blame the democrats for fighting that fight. McConnell does not have clean hands.
That said, notwithstanding some of his writings about natural law and related topics, many people who are actually familiar with SCOTUS goings on are scoring Gorsuch as a potential moderate who may not be the Scalia clone people thought he'd be. Sample size is small though. So it remains to be seen if the Republicans will really be in a position to stack the court.
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Who else was there?
I know it was a 120 years ago, but come on.
What denomination of Roman coins can we pay in?
We've just begun to plumb the depths of Hondo's ignorance.
The number of Republican appointees who ended up being flaming libs and "moderates" is easily in the double figures in the last 60 years. I can only think of one Rat nominee who moved toward the right.
Maybe those guysm are really just liberals trying to make conservatives look bad. I hear people post as kewgs in an effert to clown them. Seems immature, but whatever.
On the other side, you have White, a Kennedy appointee, who joined Rehnquist in the Roe dissent, but wasn't an across-the-board conservative. That's true for a lot of them, even Scalia. Thomas, he of never asking a question in oral argument, is considered by many among the most consistently conservative justices.
Herbert Walker picked Souter, a supposed plain meaning, strict constructionist "look up the word in the dictionary" jurist like Scalia, and he of course has turned out to be a consistently liberal justice.
So it's basically true was @Swaye said, though if you go back further in history there are a lot of examples of the other swing. That said, most of these guys can't be jammed into one box super neatly, which indicates that the institution has worked over time.
The get more liberal the longer they are in the spotlight in DC
After all that ass tonguing you did for Coug good to see him give you a reach around.