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    bananasnblondesbananasnblondes Member Posts: 14,904
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    Bread said:

    Bryant - was struggling to understand how he was Lake’s favorite after watching him get burned repeatedly by big WR, especially against Stanford and PSU. Like Fuller, Myles has told me to go fuck myself. He’s been the most consistent DB this season. Plays the run fearlessly, is a sure tackler, has gotten hole on some blitzes, and makes plays in coverage. He’s at home at Nickel. I was calling for Molden to beat him out but I was wrong.


    Maybe you fuckers should listen to @Bread
    Next time when he tells you a player is good.


    Bryant lost us Stanford and Penn State last year
    Joyner also got torched vs Stanford. Molden came out for a couple plays against Stanford and promptly gave up a 40 yard bomb. He's my least favorite. That was a weak PI against ASU, but I've seen him involved in quite a few negative plays for a guy who plays so little.

    McIntosh got torched against Penn State. Myles Bryant was a culprit, but nobody played great against either. Murphy had an amazing INT vs Penn State, but gave up a good amount of plays as well.
    Agree on all points. I was thinking the other day about the way our db chart might look next year and actually think Elijah Molden could be a couch sale watch contender. He seems to be pegged as a nickel and is clearly behind Bryant on the depth chart at this point. This will likely carry into next year which means he'd be a true senior before he became a starter. He could move to another cb position but he'd have to beat out Joyner (Murphys current backup), or Taylor (Miller's current backup) along with Hampton, Gordon, and Irvin depending on how their positions sort out. Depending on how things shake out, transferring, using his redshirt year and having 2 more years to play might seem more appealing than backing up Bryant again next year and having 1 more year. Either way it will be interesting.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    It’s not about metrics ... Ty’s also a year younger but I suspect by the end of the year he will take another step up

    As for Fuller, the only area where his lack of ideal size as a #1 shows up is in the red zone ... and unsurprisingly as a team, we haven’t been great there
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,474
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    Tequilla said:

    It’s not about metrics ... Ty’s also a year younger but I suspect by the end of the year he will take another step up

    As for Fuller, the only area where his lack of ideal size as a #1 shows up is in the red zone ... and unsurprisingly as a team, we haven’t been great there

    We haven't been great in the endzone because of play calling. There are plenty of big red zone targets to choose from: Jones, Otton, Sample.

    That right there is more than most schools could dream of.
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    TequillaTequilla Member Posts: 19,815
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    Sample isn’t a pass catcher ... Otten hasn’t done anything yet to suggest he’s a red zone weapon

    Ty Jones is our best opportunity this year for a difference maker ... the rest of our receivers are not showing separation ability in tight spaces and we have a QB that doesn’t throw guys open
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    TTJTTJ Member Posts: 4,795
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    Doogles said:

    Elite# 2, will probably be all pac12

    Uhh, so do you have Fuller displacing Harry or Arceaga-Whiteside?
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    DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,474
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    TTJ said:

    Doogles said:

    Elite# 2, will probably be all pac12

    Uhh, so do you have Fuller displacing Harry or Arceaga-Whiteside?
    The first and second teams will have 4-6 WR on them.

    He keeps producing these numbers he's going to be 1 of them.

    Stanford is the only tuff D left, maybe BYU

    Video game number games against: UCLA, Ore, Oregon St., and coug remain.

    That's probably giving Col and Cal too much credit, as we'll probably light them up too.

    I like that bet.
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    Bread said:

    Bryant - was struggling to understand how he was Lake’s favorite after watching him get burned repeatedly by big WR, especially against Stanford and PSU. Like Fuller, Myles has told me to go fuck myself. He’s been the most consistent DB this season. Plays the run fearlessly, is a sure tackler, has gotten hole on some blitzes, and makes plays in coverage. He’s at home at Nickel. I was calling for Molden to beat him out but I was wrong.


    Maybe you fuckers should listen to @Bread
    Next time when he tells you a player is good.

    So let’s move him to lb?
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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,741
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    Tequilla said:

    Sample isn’t a pass catcher ... Otten hasn’t done anything yet to suggest he’s a red zone weapon

    Ty Jones is our best opportunity this year for a difference maker ... the rest of our receivers are not showing separation ability in tight spaces and we have a QB that doesn’t throw guys open

    @GrandpaSankey true??
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    BreadBread Member Posts: 3,976
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    Bread said:

    Bryant - was struggling to understand how he was Lake’s favorite after watching him get burned repeatedly by big WR, especially against Stanford and PSU. Like Fuller, Myles has told me to go fuck myself. He’s been the most consistent DB this season. Plays the run fearlessly, is a sure tackler, has gotten hole on some blitzes, and makes plays in coverage. He’s at home at Nickel. I was calling for Molden to beat him out but I was wrong.


    Maybe you fuckers should listen to @Bread
    Next time when he tells you a player is good.


    Bryant lost us Stanford and Penn State last year
    Joyner also got torched vs Stanford. Molden came out for a couple plays against Stanford and promptly gave up a 40 yard bomb. He's my least favorite. That was a weak PI against ASU, but I've seen him involved in quite a few negative plays for a guy who plays so little.

    McIntosh got torched against Penn State. Myles Bryant was a culprit, but nobody played great against either. Murphy had an amazing INT vs Penn State, but gave up a good amount of plays as well.
    Agree on all points. I was thinking the other day about the way our db chart might look next year and actually think Elijah Molden could be a couch sale watch contender. He seems to be pegged as a nickel and is clearly behind Bryant on the depth chart at this point. This will likely carry into next year which means he'd be a true senior before he became a starter. He could move to another cb position but he'd have to beat out Joyner (Murphys current backup), or Taylor (Miller's current backup) along with Hampton, Gordon, and Irvin depending on how their positions sort out. Depending on how things shake out, transferring, using his redshirt year and having 2 more years to play might seem more appealing than backing up Bryant again next year and having 1 more year. Either way it will be interesting.
    You think Myles stays around another year? Noted Draft "expert" Benjamin Solak has him as the No. 1 Corner in the drafted from the pac12.
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    FireCohenFireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
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    Bread said:

    Bread said:

    Bryant - was struggling to understand how he was Lake’s favorite after watching him get burned repeatedly by big WR, especially against Stanford and PSU. Like Fuller, Myles has told me to go fuck myself. He’s been the most consistent DB this season. Plays the run fearlessly, is a sure tackler, has gotten hole on some blitzes, and makes plays in coverage. He’s at home at Nickel. I was calling for Molden to beat him out but I was wrong.


    Maybe you fuckers should listen to @Bread
    Next time when he tells you a player is good.


    Bryant lost us Stanford and Penn State last year
    Joyner also got torched vs Stanford. Molden came out for a couple plays against Stanford and promptly gave up a 40 yard bomb. He's my least favorite. That was a weak PI against ASU, but I've seen him involved in quite a few negative plays for a guy who plays so little.

    McIntosh got torched against Penn State. Myles Bryant was a culprit, but nobody played great against either. Murphy had an amazing INT vs Penn State, but gave up a good amount of plays as well.
    Agree on all points. I was thinking the other day about the way our db chart might look next year and actually think Elijah Molden could be a couch sale watch contender. He seems to be pegged as a nickel and is clearly behind Bryant on the depth chart at this point. This will likely carry into next year which means he'd be a true senior before he became a starter. He could move to another cb position but he'd have to beat out Joyner (Murphys current backup), or Taylor (Miller's current backup) along with Hampton, Gordon, and Irvin depending on how their positions sort out. Depending on how things shake out, transferring, using his redshirt year and having 2 more years to play might seem more appealing than backing up Bryant again next year and having 1 more year. Either way it will be interesting.
    You think Myles stays around another year? Noted Draft "expert" Benjamin Solak has him as the No. 1 Corner in the drafted from the pac12.
    Gtfo, Jordan probably
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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    Don't really understand the Molden couch selling. Sure he has had a few bad plays but shit happens at cornerback.
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    BreadBread Member Posts: 3,976
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    I think you all misunderstood bannanagram. Molden isn't transferring because he is bad. He is transferring because be is good. If Molden wants to be a starter now he is going to transfer if he is content as a backup for a few years he will stay.
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    HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
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    Don't really understand the Molden couch selling. Sure he has had a few bad plays but shit happens at cornerback.

    He's good. The question is is he willing to be Austin Joyner 2.0 and not start until he's a senior...if then.

    I hope he stays.

    Honestly I wish Molden would have redshirted last year but the coaches probably weren't confident Myles was going to hold down the position.
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    DawgsAllDay36DawgsAllDay36 Member Posts: 17
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    Molden is not transferring. It’s a dumb argument. If anything Keith Taylor is more likely to transfer since Molden already gets more playing time than him. I suppose both of them could get beat out by the current freshman but knowing Pete’s program that will never happen even if they are more talented.

    Starters:
    Molden/Taylor/Bryant/McKinney/Joyner

    Irvin plays on dime packages. Gordon rotates in as third safety. These 2 are interchangeable but one of em will get moved to safety because our depth will be shit next year otherwise (see Gilchrist). If any of the starters fuck up at all they’ll get replaced.


    Who is in disagreement? I’d love to hear it.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Tequilla said:

    Sample isn’t a pass catcher ... Otten hasn’t done anything yet to suggest he’s a red zone weapon

    Ty Jones is our best opportunity this year for a difference maker ... the rest of our receivers are not showing separation ability in tight spaces and we have a QB that doesn’t throw guys open

    I must have missed all of Fuller's catches. Dude has been balling out.
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    RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,123
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    Don't really understand the Molden couch selling. Sure he has had a few bad plays but shit happens at cornerback.

    He's good. The question is is he willing to be Austin Joyner 2.0 and not start until he's a senior...if then.

    I hope he stays.

    Honestly I wish Molden would have redshirted last year but the coaches probably weren't confident Myles was going to hold down the position.
    Definitely should have redshirted and my guess is that Molden would develop and be a good player with more playing time.

    I'm not saying Molden is Budda Baker, but Budda sucked his first few games his freshman year too. Game reps and experience matters. It's hard.
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