Reassessing the midgets
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@GrandpaSankey true??Tequilla said:Sample isn’t a pass catcher ... Otten hasn’t done anything yet to suggest he’s a red zone weapon
Ty Jones is our best opportunity this year for a difference maker ... the rest of our receivers are not showing separation ability in tight spaces and we have a QB that doesn’t throw guys open -
Typically agree with Bananas and Blondes, but hard disagree on this take.bananasnblondes said:
Agree on all points. I was thinking the other day about the way our db chart might look next year and actually think Elijah Molden could be a couch sale watch contender. He seems to be pegged as a nickel and is clearly behind Bryant on the depth chart at this point. This will likely carry into next year which means he'd be a true senior before he became a starter. He could move to another cb position but he'd have to beat out Joyner (Murphys current backup), or Taylor (Miller's current backup) along with Hampton, Gordon, and Irvin depending on how their positions sort out. Depending on how things shake out, transferring, using his redshirt year and having 2 more years to play might seem more appealing than backing up Bryant again next year and having 1 more year. Either way it will be interesting.RoadDawg55 said:
Joyner also got torched vs Stanford. Molden came out for a couple plays against Stanford and promptly gave up a 40 yard bomb. He's my least favorite. That was a weak PI against ASU, but I've seen him involved in quite a few negative plays for a guy who plays so little.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bread said:Bryant - was struggling to understand how he was Lake’s favorite after watching him get burned repeatedly by big WR, especially against Stanford and PSU. Like Fuller, Myles has told me to go fuck myself. He’s been the most consistent DB this season. Plays the run fearlessly, is a sure tackler, has gotten hole on some blitzes, and makes plays in coverage. He’s at home at Nickel. I was calling for Molden to beat him out but I was wrong.
Maybe you fuckers should listen to @Bread
Next time when he tells you a player is good.
Bryant lost us Stanford and Penn State last year
McIntosh got torched against Penn State. Myles Bryant was a culprit, but nobody played great against either. Murphy had an amazing INT vs Penn State, but gave up a good amount of plays as well.
Molden has consistently been mentioned by Lake as killing it in spring and fall camps and is one of his favorites. Now, I know that's coach speak, but it's the same kind of shit he has been saying about Myles and I now believe he's not one to just blow smoke.
I've also listened to 3 separate podcasts where an NFL scout was at UW practice, and all 3 of those scouts had a takeaway of how in the hell is Molden a backup. All of them agree he'd be a starter at everywhere else, and that he has NFL written all over him.
He's been a bit inconsistent in games thus far, but I'd pin a lot of that on inconsistent playing time.
To say Molden is a couch sale candidate is extremely short-sighted take. Keith Taylor also has played inconsistent and given up big plays, yet you're not calling for him to have a couch sale. -
You think Myles stays around another year? Noted Draft "expert" Benjamin Solak has him as the No. 1 Corner in the drafted from the pac12.bananasnblondes said:
Agree on all points. I was thinking the other day about the way our db chart might look next year and actually think Elijah Molden could be a couch sale watch contender. He seems to be pegged as a nickel and is clearly behind Bryant on the depth chart at this point. This will likely carry into next year which means he'd be a true senior before he became a starter. He could move to another cb position but he'd have to beat out Joyner (Murphys current backup), or Taylor (Miller's current backup) along with Hampton, Gordon, and Irvin depending on how their positions sort out. Depending on how things shake out, transferring, using his redshirt year and having 2 more years to play might seem more appealing than backing up Bryant again next year and having 1 more year. Either way it will be interesting.RoadDawg55 said:
Joyner also got torched vs Stanford. Molden came out for a couple plays against Stanford and promptly gave up a 40 yard bomb. He's my least favorite. That was a weak PI against ASU, but I've seen him involved in quite a few negative plays for a guy who plays so little.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bread said:Bryant - was struggling to understand how he was Lake’s favorite after watching him get burned repeatedly by big WR, especially against Stanford and PSU. Like Fuller, Myles has told me to go fuck myself. He’s been the most consistent DB this season. Plays the run fearlessly, is a sure tackler, has gotten hole on some blitzes, and makes plays in coverage. He’s at home at Nickel. I was calling for Molden to beat him out but I was wrong.
Maybe you fuckers should listen to @Bread
Next time when he tells you a player is good.
Bryant lost us Stanford and Penn State last year
McIntosh got torched against Penn State. Myles Bryant was a culprit, but nobody played great against either. Murphy had an amazing INT vs Penn State, but gave up a good amount of plays as well. -
Gtfo, Jordan probablyBread said:
You think Myles stays around another year? Noted Draft "expert" Benjamin Solak has him as the No. 1 Corner in the drafted from the pac12.bananasnblondes said:
Agree on all points. I was thinking the other day about the way our db chart might look next year and actually think Elijah Molden could be a couch sale watch contender. He seems to be pegged as a nickel and is clearly behind Bryant on the depth chart at this point. This will likely carry into next year which means he'd be a true senior before he became a starter. He could move to another cb position but he'd have to beat out Joyner (Murphys current backup), or Taylor (Miller's current backup) along with Hampton, Gordon, and Irvin depending on how their positions sort out. Depending on how things shake out, transferring, using his redshirt year and having 2 more years to play might seem more appealing than backing up Bryant again next year and having 1 more year. Either way it will be interesting.RoadDawg55 said:
Joyner also got torched vs Stanford. Molden came out for a couple plays against Stanford and promptly gave up a 40 yard bomb. He's my least favorite. That was a weak PI against ASU, but I've seen him involved in quite a few negative plays for a guy who plays so little.PostGameOrangeSlices said:Bread said:Bryant - was struggling to understand how he was Lake’s favorite after watching him get burned repeatedly by big WR, especially against Stanford and PSU. Like Fuller, Myles has told me to go fuck myself. He’s been the most consistent DB this season. Plays the run fearlessly, is a sure tackler, has gotten hole on some blitzes, and makes plays in coverage. He’s at home at Nickel. I was calling for Molden to beat him out but I was wrong.
Maybe you fuckers should listen to @Bread
Next time when he tells you a player is good.
Bryant lost us Stanford and Penn State last year
McIntosh got torched against Penn State. Myles Bryant was a culprit, but nobody played great against either. Murphy had an amazing INT vs Penn State, but gave up a good amount of plays as well. -
Don't really understand the Molden couch selling. Sure he has had a few bad plays but shit happens at cornerback.
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I think you all misunderstood bannanagram. Molden isn't transferring because he is bad. He is transferring because be is good. If Molden wants to be a starter now he is going to transfer if he is content as a backup for a few years he will stay.
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He's good. The question is is he willing to be Austin Joyner 2.0 and not start until he's a senior...if then.CuntWaffle said:Don't really understand the Molden couch selling. Sure he has had a few bad plays but shit happens at cornerback.
I hope he stays.
Honestly I wish Molden would have redshirted last year but the coaches probably weren't confident Myles was going to hold down the position. -
Molden is not transferring. It’s a dumb argument. If anything Keith Taylor is more likely to transfer since Molden already gets more playing time than him. I suppose both of them could get beat out by the current freshman but knowing Pete’s program that will never happen even if they are more talented.
Starters:
Molden/Taylor/Bryant/McKinney/Joyner
Irvin plays on dime packages. Gordon rotates in as third safety. These 2 are interchangeable but one of em will get moved to safety because our depth will be shit next year otherwise (see Gilchrist). If any of the starters fuck up at all they’ll get replaced.
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I must have missed all of Fuller's catches. Dude has been balling out.Tequilla said:Sample isn’t a pass catcher ... Otten hasn’t done anything yet to suggest he’s a red zone weapon
Ty Jones is our best opportunity this year for a difference maker ... the rest of our receivers are not showing separation ability in tight spaces and we have a QB that doesn’t throw guys open -
Definitely should have redshirted and my guess is that Molden would develop and be a good player with more playing time.HillsboroDuck said:
He's good. The question is is he willing to be Austin Joyner 2.0 and not start until he's a senior...if then.CuntWaffle said:Don't really understand the Molden couch selling. Sure he has had a few bad plays but shit happens at cornerback.
I hope he stays.
Honestly I wish Molden would have redshirted last year but the coaches probably weren't confident Myles was going to hold down the position.
I'm not saying Molden is Budda Baker, but Budda sucked his first few games his freshman year too. Game reps and experience matters. It's hard. -
This. I was merely speculating that Molden is being groomed as a nickel and may be waiting until hes a senior before he gets a starting spot. It's possible Lake moves him to a true corner spot next year but Jimmy seems to place his DBs in spots so that they master their position. I know nothing of Molden's thoughts but for many players as as good as him, the prospects of rolling for 3 years as a backup may get frustrating.Bread said:I think you all misunderstood bannanagram. Molden isn't transferring because he is bad. He is transferring because be is good. If Molden wants to be a starter now he is going to transfer if he is content as a backup for a few years he will stay.
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I haven’t looked at the data and open to being wrong on this ... but my eyes tell me that there haven’t been much production in the red zone ... which is my pointRoadDawg55 said:
I must have missed all of Fuller's catches. Dude has been balling out.Tequilla said:Sample isn’t a pass catcher ... Otten hasn’t done anything yet to suggest he’s a red zone weapon
Ty Jones is our best opportunity this year for a difference maker ... the rest of our receivers are not showing separation ability in tight spaces and we have a QB that doesn’t throw guys open -
Hands up, toes down inbounds = TD. What are you talking about, Teq? He waved his hands and caught blindman Browning's attention before the TD throw. Otherwise, Browning probably would've thrown that pass through the back of the end-zone.Tequilla said:Sample isn’t a pass catcher ... Otten hasn’t done anything yet to suggest he’s a red zone weapon
Ty Jones is our best opportunity this year for a difference maker ... the rest of our receivers are not showing separation ability in tight spaces and we have a QB that doesn’t throw guys open -
Bitch about the WRs all you want. Fair point, I suppose.
But do not for a second deny how fucking slow Browning's reads are. Jesus Christ! It's either there or it isn't Jake, and you gotta throw that ball or pull it down and run. Browning will stare at the down & out route for 2 seconds before making his 2nd read, then throw behind the crossing receiver. The tools just aren't sharp enough, after 3+ years, to take advantage of what's there, and his shoulder is not what it once was. If Browning can account for that and compensate properly, he can lead and win out. I pray his talks with Gaxin about that topic are ongoing. -
TurdBuffer said:
Bitch about the WRs all you want. Fair point, I suppose.
But do not for a second deny how fucking slow Browning's reads are. Jesus Christ! It's either there or it isn't Jake, and you gotta throw that ball or pull it down and run. Browning will stare at the down & out route for 2 seconds before making his 2nd read, then throw behind the crossing receiver. The tools just aren't sharp enough, after 3+ years, to take advantage of what's there, and his shoulder is not what it once was. If Browning can account for that and compensate properly, he can lead and win out. I pray his talks with Gaxin about that topic are ongoing.
just wait till brownsox gets his reads down, we might have an offenseTurdBuffer said:Bitch about the WRs all you want. Fair point, I suppose.
But do not for a second deny how fucking slow Browning's reads are. Jesus Christ! It's either there or it isn't Jake, and you gotta throw that ball or pull it down and run. Browning will stare at the down & out route for 2 seconds before making his 2nd read, then throw behind the crossing receiver. The tools just aren't sharp enough, after 3+ years, to take advantage of what's there, and his shoulder is not what it once was. If Browning can account for that and compensate properly, he can lead and win out. I pray his talks with Gaxin about that topic are ongoing.
