Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The Pac-12 is 0-2 against Notre Dame and 3-2 against the B1G. Oddly enough, the Pac-12 and XII have not faced each other this year.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The Pac-12 is 0-2 against Notre Dame and 3-2 against the B1G. Oddly enough, the Pac-12 and XII have not faced each other this year.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Are there any other conferences with more legit OOC wins? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Pretty sure the Big 12 hates Larry Scott and won't be playing us if they can help it. Someone should axe Butler Cabin.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The Pac-12 is 0-2 against Notre Dame and 3-2 against the B1G. Oddly enough, the Pac-12 and XII have not faced each other this year.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Are there any other conferences with more legit OOC wins? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Pretty sure the Big 12 hates Larry Scott and won't be playing us if they can help it. Someone should axe Butler Cabin.
That might depend on how you define legit OOC wins. Do you want to say all BCS teams plus Notre Dame, or only BCS teams that don't suck as hard as Illinois does?
I don't disagree that the Pac kinda sucks, but its better than the Big 10(14), better than the ACC, better than the Amurrcan, and probably better (at least a push) with the Big XII (ten).
I don't disagree that the Pac kinda sucks, but its better than the Big 10(14), better than the ACC, better than the Amurrcan, and probably better (at least a push) with the Big XII (ten).
This is totally true. It's the SEC and a collective fucking dreckfest as always. The Pac-12 is just the tallest non-SEC midget.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The Pac-12 is 0-2 against Notre Dame and 3-2 against the B1G. Oddly enough, the Pac-12 and XII have not faced each other this year.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Are there any other conferences with more legit OOC wins? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Pretty sure the Big 12 hates Larry Scott and won't be playing us if they can help it. Someone should axe Butler Cabin.
That might depend on how you define legit OOC wins. Do you want to say all BCS teams plus Notre Dame, or only BCS teams that don't suck as hard as Illinois does?
I'll defer to you. The Crying Illini shouldn't change the calculus that much either way.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The Pac-12 is 0-2 against Notre Dame and 3-2 against the B1G. Oddly enough, the Pac-12 and XII have not faced each other this year.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Are there any other conferences with more legit OOC wins? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Pretty sure the Big 12 hates Larry Scott and won't be playing us if they can help it. Someone should axe Butler Cabin.
That might depend on how you define legit OOC wins. Do you want to say all BCS teams plus Notre Dame, or only BCS teams that don't suck as hard as Illinois does?
I'll defer to you. The Crying Illini shouldn't change the calculus that much either way.
We'll say all BCS teams at or over .500 then (including Notre Dame):
SEC: Auburn beat WSU, Alabama beat Virginia Tech, Ole Miss beat Texas, South Carolina beat UCF Pac-12: ASU beat Wisconsin*, UCLA beat Nebraska, USC beat BC B1G: Michigan beat Notre Dame, Illinois beat Cincinnati (how the fuck did this happen?), Penn State and Northwestern both beat Syracuse ACC: Clemson beat Georgia (the best OOC game played this year, IMO), Pitt beat Notre Dame XII: Oklahoma beat Notre Dame. That's it. American: UCF beat Penn State Notre Dame: Wins over ASU, USC, Michigan State
TL, DR: Notre Dame is currently the best conference in the country after the SEC. The B1G's two wins over 5-5 Syracuse aren't enough to vault it over the Pac-12.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The Pac-12 is 0-2 against Notre Dame and 3-2 against the B1G. Oddly enough, the Pac-12 and XII have not faced each other this year.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Are there any other conferences with more legit OOC wins? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Pretty sure the Big 12 hates Larry Scott and won't be playing us if they can help it. Someone should axe Butler Cabin.
That might depend on how you define legit OOC wins. Do you want to say all BCS teams plus Notre Dame, or only BCS teams that don't suck as hard as Illinois does?
I'll defer to you. The Crying Illini shouldn't change the calculus that much either way.
We'll say all BCS teams at or over .500 then (including Notre Dame):
SEC: Auburn beat WSU, Alabama beat Virginia Tech, Ole Miss beat Texas, South Carolina beat UCF Pac-12: ASU beat Wisconsin*, UCLA beat Nebraska, USC beat BC B1G: Michigan beat Notre Dame, Illinois beat Cincinnati (how the fuck did this happen?), Penn State and Northwestern both beat Syracuse ACC: Clemson beat Georgia (the best OOC game played this year, IMO), Pitt beat Notre Dame XII: Oklahoma beat Notre Dame. That's it. American: UCF beat Penn State Notre Dame: Wins over ASU, USC, Michigan State
TL, DR: Notre Dame is currently the best conference in the country after the SEC. The B1G's two wins over 5-5 Syracuse aren't enough to vault it over the Pac-12.
Interesting stuff. Should we also include all non conference losses to get a more complete picture? Not that I'm willing to do the research. I know it would put ND at 3-3 by these metrics. That's certainly still better than the Pac (2 losses to ND, 1 loss to Allburn, 1 loss to Eastern Wash off the top of my head).
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The Pac-12 is 0-2 against Notre Dame and 3-2 against the B1G. Oddly enough, the Pac-12 and XII have not faced each other this year.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Are there any other conferences with more legit OOC wins? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Pretty sure the Big 12 hates Larry Scott and won't be playing us if they can help it. Someone should axe Butler Cabin.
That might depend on how you define legit OOC wins. Do you want to say all BCS teams plus Notre Dame, or only BCS teams that don't suck as hard as Illinois does?
I'll defer to you. The Crying Illini shouldn't change the calculus that much either way.
We'll say all BCS teams at or over .500 then (including Notre Dame):
SEC: Auburn beat WSU, Alabama beat Virginia Tech, Ole Miss beat Texas, South Carolina beat UCF Pac-12: ASU beat Wisconsin*, UCLA beat Nebraska, USC beat BC B1G: Michigan beat Notre Dame, Illinois beat Cincinnati (how the fuck did this happen?), Penn State and Northwestern both beat Syracuse ACC: Clemson beat Georgia (the best OOC game played this year, IMO), Pitt beat Notre Dame XII: Oklahoma beat Notre Dame. That's it. American: UCF beat Penn State Notre Dame: Wins over ASU, USC, Michigan State
TL, DR: Notre Dame is currently the best conference in the country after the SEC. The B1G's two wins over 5-5 Syracuse aren't enough to vault it over the Pac-12.
Interesting stuff. Should we also include all non conference losses to get a more complete picture? Not that I'm willing to do the research. I know it would put ND at 3-3 by these metrics. That's certainly still better than the Pac (2 losses to ND, 1 loss to Allburn, 1 loss to Eastern Wash off the top of my head).
Every other conference would have a losing record following that methodology. SEC: 4-7 Pac-12: 3-6 B1G: 4-11 ACC: 2-11 American: 1-20 (LOL)
This is an interesting way to really figure out which conferences are actually worth a damn.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The Pac-12 is 0-2 against Notre Dame and 3-2 against the B1G. Oddly enough, the Pac-12 and XII have not faced each other this year.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Are there any other conferences with more legit OOC wins? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Pretty sure the Big 12 hates Larry Scott and won't be playing us if they can help it. Someone should axe Butler Cabin.
That might depend on how you define legit OOC wins. Do you want to say all BCS teams plus Notre Dame, or only BCS teams that don't suck as hard as Illinois does?
I'll defer to you. The Crying Illini shouldn't change the calculus that much either way.
We'll say all BCS teams at or over .500 then (including Notre Dame):
SEC: Auburn beat WSU, Alabama beat Virginia Tech, Ole Miss beat Texas, South Carolina beat UCF Pac-12: ASU beat Wisconsin*, UCLA beat Nebraska, USC beat BC B1G: Michigan beat Notre Dame, Illinois beat Cincinnati (how the fuck did this happen?), Penn State and Northwestern both beat Syracuse ACC: Clemson beat Georgia (the best OOC game played this year, IMO), Pitt beat Notre Dame XII: Oklahoma beat Notre Dame. That's it. American: UCF beat Penn State Notre Dame: Wins over ASU, USC, Michigan State
TL, DR: Notre Dame is currently the best conference in the country after the SEC. The B1G's two wins over 5-5 Syracuse aren't enough to vault it over the Pac-12.
Interesting stuff. Should we also include all non conference losses to get a more complete picture? Not that I'm willing to do the research. I know it would put ND at 3-3 by these metrics. That's certainly still better than the Pac (2 losses to ND, 1 loss to Allburn, 1 loss to Eastern Wash off the top of my head).
Every other conference would have a losing record following that methodology. SEC: 4-7 Pac-12: 3-6 B1G: 4-11 ACC: 2-11 American: 1-20 (LOL)
This is an interesting way to really figure out which conferences are actually worth a damn.
If the AAC didn't have a BCS berth the Pac would have teh best record by this methodology.
I'm telling you, it's not as bad a conference as you think.
Or more precisely, CFB 2013 is full of midget conferences. The Pac is the second tallest midget. So we have that going for us, which is nice.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The Pac-12 is 0-2 against Notre Dame and 3-2 against the B1G. Oddly enough, the Pac-12 and XII have not faced each other this year.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Are there any other conferences with more legit OOC wins? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Pretty sure the Big 12 hates Larry Scott and won't be playing us if they can help it. Someone should axe Butler Cabin.
That might depend on how you define legit OOC wins. Do you want to say all BCS teams plus Notre Dame, or only BCS teams that don't suck as hard as Illinois does?
I'll defer to you. The Crying Illini shouldn't change the calculus that much either way.
We'll say all BCS teams at or over .500 then (including Notre Dame):
SEC: Auburn beat WSU, Alabama beat Virginia Tech, Ole Miss beat Texas, South Carolina beat UCF Pac-12: ASU beat Wisconsin*, UCLA beat Nebraska, USC beat BC B1G: Michigan beat Notre Dame, Illinois beat Cincinnati (how the fuck did this happen?), Penn State and Northwestern both beat Syracuse ACC: Clemson beat Georgia (the best OOC game played this year, IMO), Pitt beat Notre Dame XII: Oklahoma beat Notre Dame. That's it. American: UCF beat Penn State Notre Dame: Wins over ASU, USC, Michigan State
TL, DR: Notre Dame is currently the best conference in the country after the SEC. The B1G's two wins over 5-5 Syracuse aren't enough to vault it over the Pac-12.
Interesting stuff. Should we also include all non conference losses to get a more complete picture? Not that I'm willing to do the research. I know it would put ND at 3-3 by these metrics. That's certainly still better than the Pac (2 losses to ND, 1 loss to Allburn, 1 loss to Eastern Wash off the top of my head).
Every other conference would have a losing record following that methodology. SEC: 4-7 Pac-12: 3-6 B1G: 4-11 ACC: 2-11 American: 1-20 (LOL)
This is an interesting way to really figure out which conferences are actually worth a damn.
If the AAC didn't have a BCS berth the Pac would have teh best record by this methodology.
I'm telling you, it's not as bad a conference as you think.
Or more precisely, CFB 2013 is full of midget conferences. The Pac is the second tallest midget. So we have that going for us, which is nice.
The Cock win over UCF is the best win the SEC or the Pac-12 have OOC though.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
The Pac12 dreckfest is better than every division or conference in the nation but the SEC West.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The Pac-12 is 0-2 against Notre Dame and 3-2 against the B1G. Oddly enough, the Pac-12 and XII have not faced each other this year.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Are there any other conferences with more legit OOC wins? I'm too lazy to look it up.
Pretty sure the Big 12 hates Larry Scott and won't be playing us if they can help it. Someone should axe Butler Cabin.
That might depend on how you define legit OOC wins. Do you want to say all BCS teams plus Notre Dame, or only BCS teams that don't suck as hard as Illinois does?
I'll defer to you. The Crying Illini shouldn't change the calculus that much either way.
We'll say all BCS teams at or over .500 then (including Notre Dame):
SEC: Auburn beat WSU, Alabama beat Virginia Tech, Ole Miss beat Texas, South Carolina beat UCF Pac-12: ASU beat Wisconsin*, UCLA beat Nebraska, USC beat BC B1G: Michigan beat Notre Dame, Illinois beat Cincinnati (how the fuck did this happen?), Penn State and Northwestern both beat Syracuse ACC: Clemson beat Georgia (the best OOC game played this year, IMO), Pitt beat Notre Dame XII: Oklahoma beat Notre Dame. That's it. American: UCF beat Penn State Notre Dame: Wins over ASU, USC, Michigan State
TL, DR: Notre Dame is currently the best conference in the country after the SEC. The B1G's two wins over 5-5 Syracuse aren't enough to vault it over the Pac-12.
Interesting stuff. Should we also include all non conference losses to get a more complete picture? Not that I'm willing to do the research. I know it would put ND at 3-3 by these metrics. That's certainly still better than the Pac (2 losses to ND, 1 loss to Allburn, 1 loss to Eastern Wash off the top of my head).
Every other conference would have a losing record following that methodology. SEC: 4-7 Pac-12: 3-6 B1G: 4-11 ACC: 2-11 American: 1-20 (LOL)
This is an interesting way to really figure out which conferences are actually worth a damn.
If the AAC didn't have a BCS berth the Pac would have teh best record by this methodology.
I'm telling you, it's not as bad a conference as you think.
Or more precisely, CFB 2013 is full of midget conferences. The Pac is the second tallest midget. So we have that going for us, which is nice.
The Cock win over UCF is the best win the SEC or the Pac-12 have OOC though.
Notre Dame can claim a conference championship when they nut up and join a conference. Until then, FO, Dome.
They've already beaten USC and ASU. If they win at Stanford, you've got to give them the title...or at least recognize that the Pac-12 might be a shitty conference after all.
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I'll do it, fucker.
CFB is a dreckfest save for 3 or 4 SEC West teams.
And I don't see Brian Kelly winning at Stanford. Neither is Brian Kelly.
The computers all say the Pac-12 is #2, but 19 of its 30 OOC wins came against the MWC and FCS. Forgive my skepticism.
Pretty sure the Big 12 hates Larry Scott and won't be playing us if they can help it. Someone should axe Butler Cabin.
Notre Dame beat ASU on a neutral field
And SC at home
...
Just sayin'.
SEC: Auburn beat WSU, Alabama beat Virginia Tech, Ole Miss beat Texas, South Carolina beat UCF
Pac-12: ASU beat Wisconsin*, UCLA beat Nebraska, USC beat BC
B1G: Michigan beat Notre Dame, Illinois beat Cincinnati (how the fuck did this happen?), Penn State and Northwestern both beat Syracuse
ACC: Clemson beat Georgia (the best OOC game played this year, IMO), Pitt beat Notre Dame
XII: Oklahoma beat Notre Dame. That's it.
American: UCF beat Penn State
Notre Dame: Wins over ASU, USC, Michigan State
TL, DR: Notre Dame is currently the best conference in the country after the SEC. The B1G's two wins over 5-5 Syracuse aren't enough to vault it over the Pac-12.
SEC: 4-7
Pac-12: 3-6
B1G: 4-11
ACC: 2-11
American: 1-20 (LOL)
This is an interesting way to really figure out which conferences are actually worth a damn.
I'm telling you, it's not as bad a conference as you think.
Or more precisely, CFB 2013 is full of midget conferences. The Pac is the second tallest midget. So we have that going for us, which is nice.