Russia strikes again
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Straight up casus belli, gThomasFremont said:
Turn off the lights in America for 1 week and the shit will get real. Do lasting damage to a few critical systems and it could spiral into chaos. Infrastructure was the one thing Trump was selling that I was buying, and it ain’t happening any time soon (or ever).GrundleStiltzkin said:
That.ThomasFremont said:
Oh I’m speculating about it, no denying that. How they did it is not that big of a deal. What we? are gonna do about it is.GrundleStiltzkin said:
You're throwing some conjecture over top of what was reported.ThomasFremont said:
Possibly. But any system worth a shit has more than an email/password credential. Basic 2-factor means they phished credentials and THEN got to the phone where the verification code generates in order to get in. This means personal contact.Swaye said:
It's standard phishing to credential theft I'd bet.ThomasFremont said:
Correct. But the usage of legit credentials to avoid detection implies that the leak is at the personal level. They’re targeting individual employees. Whether they are cooperating/collaborating or just left their laptop open is anyone’s guess. But the idea of a GRU spy trying to get the lower wage employees to cooperate is scarier than the notion that they can hack an air-gapped system.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Poont of clarification, the article does not say the Russians have American moles or double-agents or whatever.ThomasFremont said:If you read the article you’d see they’re using legit credentials to get by security. This isn’t a brute force hack, but rather a social engineering operation. They’re working American citizen assets.
I was cheering like every other GOOD American when we! took out the centrifuges with Stuxnet. But even then I was worrying what might be coming back at us. -
Russia will hack us and then we will invade Iran while we are full of rage. Lather, rinse, repeat.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Straight up casus belli, gThomasFremont said:
Turn off the lights in America for 1 week and the shit will get real. Do lasting damage to a few critical systems and it could spiral into chaos. Infrastructure was the one thing Trump was selling that I was buying, and it ain’t happening any time soon (or ever).GrundleStiltzkin said:
That.ThomasFremont said:
Oh I’m speculating about it, no denying that. How they did it is not that big of a deal. What we? are gonna do about it is.GrundleStiltzkin said:
You're throwing some conjecture over top of what was reported.ThomasFremont said:
Possibly. But any system worth a shit has more than an email/password credential. Basic 2-factor means they phished credentials and THEN got to the phone where the verification code generates in order to get in. This means personal contact.Swaye said:
It's standard phishing to credential theft I'd bet.ThomasFremont said:
Correct. But the usage of legit credentials to avoid detection implies that the leak is at the personal level. They’re targeting individual employees. Whether they are cooperating/collaborating or just left their laptop open is anyone’s guess. But the idea of a GRU spy trying to get the lower wage employees to cooperate is scarier than the notion that they can hack an air-gapped system.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Poont of clarification, the article does not say the Russians have American moles or double-agents or whatever.ThomasFremont said:If you read the article you’d see they’re using legit credentials to get by security. This isn’t a brute force hack, but rather a social engineering operation. They’re working American citizen assets.
I was cheering like every other GOOD American when we! took out the centrifuges with Stuxnet. But even then I was worrying what might be coming back at us. -
If Russia did that, and it was 81% publicly clear they did, #MyBolton & the boys are going ham on the Motherland.ThomasFremont said:
Russia will hack us and then we will invade Iran while we are full of rage. Lather, rinse, repeat.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Straight up casus belli, gThomasFremont said:
Turn off the lights in America for 1 week and the shit will get real. Do lasting damage to a few critical systems and it could spiral into chaos. Infrastructure was the one thing Trump was selling that I was buying, and it ain’t happening any time soon (or ever).GrundleStiltzkin said:
That.ThomasFremont said:
Oh I’m speculating about it, no denying that. How they did it is not that big of a deal. What we? are gonna do about it is.GrundleStiltzkin said:
You're throwing some conjecture over top of what was reported.ThomasFremont said:
Possibly. But any system worth a shit has more than an email/password credential. Basic 2-factor means they phished credentials and THEN got to the phone where the verification code generates in order to get in. This means personal contact.Swaye said:
It's standard phishing to credential theft I'd bet.ThomasFremont said:
Correct. But the usage of legit credentials to avoid detection implies that the leak is at the personal level. They’re targeting individual employees. Whether they are cooperating/collaborating or just left their laptop open is anyone’s guess. But the idea of a GRU spy trying to get the lower wage employees to cooperate is scarier than the notion that they can hack an air-gapped system.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Poont of clarification, the article does not say the Russians have American moles or double-agents or whatever.ThomasFremont said:If you read the article you’d see they’re using legit credentials to get by security. This isn’t a brute force hack, but rather a social engineering operation. They’re working American citizen assets.
I was cheering like every other GOOD American when we! took out the centrifuges with Stuxnet. But even then I was worrying what might be coming back at us. -
Tommy might be worse than hondo
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No.Pitchfork51 said:Tommy might be worse than hondo
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The grid is fractured and is controlled by hundreds of different PRIVATE entities. Those that wish to hack it or compromise those that control it, replaced terrorism as a bigger threat 15 years ago here in the USA.
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OOYWEPitchfork51 said:Tommy might be worse than hondo
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I don't think AIDS is worse than Hondo.Pitchfork51 said:Tommy might be worse than hondo
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People forget that Tommy was the original intern for the half brains as he completed his studies in history for Jack Lockner
He barely beat out the other houston husky for the job but performed admirably
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Or the plague!Swaye said:
I don't think AIDS is worse than Hondo.Pitchfork51 said:Tommy might be worse than hondo
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It was a Reaganesque landslide and you know it.RaceBannon said:People forget that Tommy was the original intern for the half brains as he completed his studies in history for Jack Lockner
He barely beat out the other houston husky for the job but performed admirably -
Yeah with Putin helping youThomasFremont said:
It was a Reaganesque landslide and you know it.RaceBannon said:People forget that Tommy was the original intern for the half brains as he completed his studies in history for Jack Lockner
He barely beat out the other houston husky for the job but performed admirably -
Winners win, baby!!!RaceBannon said:
Yeah with Putin helping youThomasFremont said:
It was a Reaganesque landslide and you know it.RaceBannon said:People forget that Tommy was the original intern for the half brains as he completed his studies in history for Jack Lockner
He barely beat out the other houston husky for the job but performed admirably
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The REAL question isn't how did they do it but what are we going to do about it?ThomasFremont said:
Winners win, baby!!!RaceBannon said:
Yeah with Putin helping youThomasFremont said:
It was a Reaganesque landslide and you know it.RaceBannon said:People forget that Tommy was the original intern for the half brains as he completed his studies in history for Jack Lockner
He barely beat out the other houston husky for the job but performed admirably -
Lulz.dnc said:
The REAL question isn't how did they do it but what are we going to do about it?ThomasFremont said:
Winners win, baby!!!RaceBannon said:
Yeah with Putin helping youThomasFremont said:
It was a Reaganesque landslide and you know it.RaceBannon said:People forget that Tommy was the original intern for the half brains as he completed his studies in history for Jack Lockner
He barely beat out the other houston husky for the job but performed admirably
