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Clay Helton and USC Pessimism

Why is everyone clowning on Helton? He whipped us good in '16 (mostly due to Browning, but still), won a Rose Bowl year 1 and then year 2 goes to the Cotton. 21-6, 15-3 record as full time head coach.

Everyone acts like he's on the hot seat.

Why?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club
    Lost to Bama, tOSU like a red headed step child

    SC don't care about the rest

    And they will struggle this year
  • ToddTurnerLIVES
    ToddTurnerLIVES Member Posts: 438
    2001400ex said:

    When you sleep walk into top 5 recruiting classes every year and have your pick of recruits. You should win the WAC every year.

  • BaldwinIV
    BaldwinIV Member Posts: 797

    Because We(rSC) have standards.

    Hope that helps.

    Winning the Rose Bowl doesn't fall under those standards?

    lmao

    Hope that helps.
  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246
    The playoff should be Bama, Clemson, tOSU, and SC every year.

    We are coming up on year five of this thing and the Trojans are yet to get an invite. It's fucking pathetic.
  • rodmansrage
    rodmansrage Member Posts: 6,376
    just wait til he gets his own guys in there...and ivan gets his hands on em.



    just you wait.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    There entire passing offense last year consisted of darnold running around on a broken play.

    Still won then 10+ games
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    edited July 2018
    I get the part about the hot seat, because yeah, like USC man.

    But why are DAWG fans talking shit? He came into Husky Stadium and reminded us who daddy is and won the conference the next year.
  • BaldwinIV
    BaldwinIV Member Posts: 797
    i love the idea that usc sucks and helton sucks but

    exhibit a 2016 uw asskicking

    exhibit b 2016 winning rose bowl

    exhibit c 2017 winning conference

    racebannon's response is the closest thing to make sense
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    BaldwinIV said:

    racebannon's response is the closest thing to make sense

    New board motto?
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,033
    In SC land the reasoning is something along the lines of even a "par" level coach should have been able to do what Helton has with Darnold and surrounding talent if not better. Now that Darnold is gone they are looking to see which way the wind is blowing and if Helton wasn't just being propped up.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327

    There entire passing offense last year consisted of darnold running around on a broken play.

    Still won then 10+ games
    Yes I think that's the point. They won 10 games because darnold made plays. Their scheme and execution was shit with superior talent. A lot of people expect it to fall apart without an elite playmaker at qb. Usc shouldn't get their ass kicked by Norte dame Alabama and Ohio state the way they did either.

    All that being said I wouldn't talk shit about it as a uw fan. Sling blade had a lot of success before the wheels came off too.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    There entire passing offense last year consisted of darnold running around on a broken play.

    Still won then 10+ games
    They lost to the Coog. They sucked.
    They beat furd and STDU that fucking owned us. So that means we sucked too
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club
    USC pessimism has nothing to do with UW by the way. I follow Inside USC and he would have fired Clay last year. Next year he will have a lot of company
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,327

    There entire passing offense last year consisted of darnold running around on a broken play.

    Still won then 10+ games
    They lost to the Coog. They sucked.
    They beat furd and STDU that fucking owned us. So that means we sucked too
    Now you are starting to get it. The whole conference was shit last year and they had a qb that Made enough plays.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    The USC loss in 2016 was a shitty loss. Sam Darnold was throwing footballs into pringles cans that night. Jake Browning shit his pants (nothing new but still) and our offensive gameplan was to avoid letting Gaskin touch the ball.

    It was a total disaster. Helton fucking blows. USC should have clown shoed the conference last year with who they had and it took A David Shaw shitty 4th down call to squeak by the championship.

    This.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,212 Founders Club
    edited July 2018
    Swaye said:

    The USC loss in 2016 was a shitty loss. Sam Darnold was throwing footballs into pringles cans that night. Jake Browning shit his pants (nothing new but still) and our offensive gameplan was to avoid letting Gaskin touch the ball.

    It was a total disaster. Helton fucking blows. USC should have clown shoed the conference last year with who they had and it took A David Shaw shitty 4th down call to squeak by the championship.

    This.
    It was one of the worst night's of my life after having a total kick ass day of back stage Game Day passes and bitching kegger at the Row Boat House.

  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016

    Lost to Bama, tOSU like a red headed step child

    SC don't care about the rest

    And they will struggle this year

    Hurts Race. Really hurts.

    SC really respects us!!!!!!
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016

    The USC loss in 2016 was a shitty loss. Sam Darnold was throwing footballs into pringles cans that night. Jake Browning shit his pants (nothing new but still) and our offensive gameplan was to avoid letting Gaskin touch the ball.

    It was a total disaster. Helton fucking blows. USC should have clown shoed the conference last year with who they had and it took A David Shaw shitty 4th down call to squeak by the championship.

    This. If anyone actually watched the gayme, those shoelace tackles (as in, his shoelaces tackled him) were at hugely inopportune times during the gayme.

    Washington could very easily have won that gayme. Helton didn't come in and show anyone shit. That loss is on Browning as much as any in his long list of failures.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,016
    Mosster47 said:

    The playoff should be Bama, Clemson, tOSU, and SC every year.

    We are coming up on year five of this thing and the Trojans are yet to get an invite. It's fucking pathetic.

    Jesus.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,033

    Mosster47 said:

    The playoff should be Bama, Clemson, tOSU, and SC every year.

    We are coming up on year five of this thing and the Trojans are yet to get an invite. It's fucking pathetic.

    Jesus.
    I would only agree because there are only a few ACC teams worth a shit and most of them are somewhere in the wilderness atm.

    Miami - TBD, Florida State - Williegetonthebus.gif, Notre Dame - ha!, Clemson is the only one with a settled successful coach and program for at least the immediate future.

  • Mosster47
    Mosster47 Member Posts: 6,246

    There entire passing offense last year consisted of darnold running around on a broken play.

    Still won then 10+ games
    Yes I think that's the point. They won 10 games because darnold made plays. Their scheme and execution was shit with superior talent. A lot of people expect it to fall apart without an elite playmaker at qb. Usc shouldn't get their ass kicked by Norte dame Alabama and Ohio state the way they did either.

    All that being said I wouldn't talk shit about it as a uw fan. Sling blade had a lot of success before the wheels came off too.
    Define "a lot."

    Losing to Arizona like clock work, multiple gas stations bowls, one being the worst loss in history, and the shittiest season since before football started isn't really a lot in my eyes.

    Sling had one good season. Full stop.