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Goddamn, all of my e-friends here are audiophiles. Send me your old shit that isn't broken when you upgrade so I can get in on this fun. I have no shame in asking for second hand items from rich whites.
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You mean like the Oklahoma grant? ;-}Swaye said:Goddamn, all of my e-friends here are audiophiles. Send me your old shit that isn't broken when you upgrade so I can get in on this fun. I have no shame in asking for second hand items from rich whites.
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https://gizmodo.com/obsessed-audiophiles-in-japan-are-installing-their-own-1785291714The Wall Street Journal spoke to Takeo Morita, a retired lawyer in Japan with a personal sound system that already includes a $60,000 amplifier, gold and silver cables, and other gear that will put your bundled iPhone earbuds to shame. But with audiophiles there’s always room for improvement, and he realized that electromagnetic interference from his neighbors’ appliances was propagating through their shared power lines, reducing the quality of the sound he was getting.
The solution was to receive power more directly from his local power grid, which required the installation of his own private utility pole. With upgraded wiring, a better transformer, and an improved circuit breaker, the upgrade can run close to $40,000, not including what your local power company decides to charge you for the privilege of private power. -
Agree.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I usually have tonearm weight set pretty low when I'm just messing around. Can't remember what I have tracking set to. But if you're playing live or recording a set and need things to be tight, you gotta crank up the weights and tracking. For me probably the biggest issue is cue burn.YellowSnow said:
If you set them the arm to 4 grams of tracking pressure (i.e., DJ settings) and got all whickey whichey with them I'd probably freak out. But that cart set to, say, 2.5 g's on a 1200 wouldn't hurt anyone's priceless LP collection. 1200s a great decks BTW and a lot of audiophiles are into them.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I know very little about the the audiophile scene, so I take your word for it. I did read years ago a WSJ piece about this Japanese guy that was so into high-high-end equipment that he paid the power company for a dedicated pole and specialty transformer for his apartment to get the "cleanest" power.YellowSnow said:
Damn @Gilbystaint , you've been holding back on us! @GrundleStiltzkin you can have a laff here, because I just got served in hi fi dick measuring.Gilbystaint said:
Yes, we have an RP6. I am using a Linn Uphorik phono pre. I had a Heed unit for many years that was a great overachiever. You @YellowSnow?YellowSnow said:
Do you have a Rega TT as well @Gilbystaint ? The HANA is a moving coil so what phono pre are you running?Gilbystaint said:
Ran my Rega into the ground, just replaced with HANA SLYellowSnow said:
Oh yeah. Some people have stupid money for this hobby. I propose a luxury phono cartridge tax. I'm a pour so this is as fancy I'm able to afford. https://www.needledoctor.com/Rega-Exact-2-CartridgeApostleofGrief said:
Thanks.YellowSnow said:It's going to start to sound duller and less crisp especially on the highs. Age of carts can also be a problem. Even if they aren't in use the parts of a phono cart can degrade. If you have some valuable records in the collection just be safe and get a new one. They aren't that expensive for a decent phono cart.
Hey, were you aware of these super high end cartridges? This is 1% class shit.... --->>> https://www.needledoctor.com/analog/analog-components/Phono-Cartridges
I got a RP3 a few years back (had a P2 for a long time before that). Went with the higher end (yellow, of course) Exact Cart though to try and get as close the P6 as possible. Both TT's have the same tone arm, but the P6 has some nice upgrades over the 3. I'm a big Rega fan and my next deck will probably be a P8.
No separate phono pre amp for me at the moment. It's next on my list (looking to get a Parasound JC3 Jr.) I have a vintage McIntosh receiver from circa 1980 and those, of course, came with pretty decent internal phono stage. But getting a separate will definitely yield some more detail.
I'm have Concord DJS on my 1200s, which would probably give you an anxiety attack to touch any of your collection.
My position on hi fi is that you get YUGE gains going from like a $500 TT to a $2000 one. But after a certain point the law of diminishing returns start to kick in. The Japanese guy you reference it's probably a bit of nut job.
From what I know of audiophile, it's like many other hobbies. Steep curve of quality-to-money from entry level until it falls of a cliff at a point like the $2000 deck. Home brewing, fishing, whatever. You can spend as much money as you want on it, but after the point you're chasing the smallest marginal improvements.
And yes that Japanese guy was nuts. I can't remember details, but he had a single component that was over $200,000.
Because I went the vintage route on speakers and amplification (both are nearly 4 decades old in my set up) my hi fi kit, would be had for about $4000.00 on ebay or in a local shop that sells used gear. Brand new gear that would have comparable sound would probably set you back $7000 to $8000 give or take.
On of my BFF's - a DINK with no mortgage - has about $17,000 into his set up. It definitely sounds better than mine, but he had to spend a lot more to get there. I'm like 81% of the way there for 23% of the investment. And my ear is pretty trained...a lot of boofs here might not notice as much of a difference. -
I sure as hell wouldn't. My ears are blownout withYellowSnow said:
Agree.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I usually have tonearm weight set pretty low when I'm just messing around. Can't remember what I have tracking set to. But if you're playing live or recording a set and need things to be tight, you gotta crank up the weights and tracking. For me probably the biggest issue is cue burn.YellowSnow said:
If you set them the arm to 4 grams of tracking pressure (i.e., DJ settings) and got all whickey whichey with them I'd probably freak out. But that cart set to, say, 2.5 g's on a 1200 wouldn't hurt anyone's priceless LP collection. 1200s a great decks BTW and a lot of audiophiles are into them.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I know very little about the the audiophile scene, so I take your word for it. I did read years ago a WSJ piece about this Japanese guy that was so into high-high-end equipment that he paid the power company for a dedicated pole and specialty transformer for his apartment to get the "cleanest" power.YellowSnow said:
Damn @Gilbystaint , you've been holding back on us! @GrundleStiltzkin you can have a laff here, because I just got served in hi fi dick measuring.Gilbystaint said:
Yes, we have an RP6. I am using a Linn Uphorik phono pre. I had a Heed unit for many years that was a great overachiever. You @YellowSnow?YellowSnow said:
Do you have a Rega TT as well @Gilbystaint ? The HANA is a moving coil so what phono pre are you running?Gilbystaint said:
Ran my Rega into the ground, just replaced with HANA SLYellowSnow said:
Oh yeah. Some people have stupid money for this hobby. I propose a luxury phono cartridge tax. I'm a pour so this is as fancy I'm able to afford. https://www.needledoctor.com/Rega-Exact-2-CartridgeApostleofGrief said:
Thanks.YellowSnow said:It's going to start to sound duller and less crisp especially on the highs. Age of carts can also be a problem. Even if they aren't in use the parts of a phono cart can degrade. If you have some valuable records in the collection just be safe and get a new one. They aren't that expensive for a decent phono cart.
Hey, were you aware of these super high end cartridges? This is 1% class shit.... --->>> https://www.needledoctor.com/analog/analog-components/Phono-Cartridges
I got a RP3 a few years back (had a P2 for a long time before that). Went with the higher end (yellow, of course) Exact Cart though to try and get as close the P6 as possible. Both TT's have the same tone arm, but the P6 has some nice upgrades over the 3. I'm a big Rega fan and my next deck will probably be a P8.
No separate phono pre amp for me at the moment. It's next on my list (looking to get a Parasound JC3 Jr.) I have a vintage McIntosh receiver from circa 1980 and those, of course, came with pretty decent internal phono stage. But getting a separate will definitely yield some more detail.
I'm have Concord DJS on my 1200s, which would probably give you an anxiety attack to touch any of your collection.
My position on hi fi is that you get YUGE gains going from like a $500 TT to a $2000 one. But after a certain point the law of diminishing returns start to kick in. The Japanese guy you reference it's probably a bit of nut job.
From what I know of audiophile, it's like many other hobbies. Steep curve of quality-to-money from entry level until it falls of a cliff at a point like the $2000 deck. Home brewing, fishing, whatever. You can spend as much money as you want on it, but after the point you're chasing the smallest marginal improvements.
And yes that Japanese guy was nuts. I can't remember details, but he had a single component that was over $200,000.
Because I went the vintage route on speakers and amplification (both are nearly 4 decades old in my set up) my hi fi kit, would be had for about $4000.00 on ebay or in a local shop that sells used gear. Brand new gear that would have comparable sound would probably set you back $7000 to $8000 give or take.
On of my BFF's - a DINK with no mortgage - has about $17,000 into his set up. It definitely sounds better than mine, but he had to spend a lot more to get there. I'm like 81% of the way there for 23% of the investment. And my ear is pretty trained...a lot of boofs here might not notice as much of a difference.misspentawesome youth of firecrackers and firearms, and subsequent WAY too hot headphones. Some DJ mixers have ridiculously powerful headphone amps. -
Ironically, my buddy used to be DJ and had a pair of 1200's. Ears still seem to work for him, but he only did it for about 3 years. Sold it off and got back into vinyl at my urging about 9 years ago.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I sure as hell wouldn't. My ears are blownout withYellowSnow said:
Agree.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I usually have tonearm weight set pretty low when I'm just messing around. Can't remember what I have tracking set to. But if you're playing live or recording a set and need things to be tight, you gotta crank up the weights and tracking. For me probably the biggest issue is cue burn.YellowSnow said:
If you set them the arm to 4 grams of tracking pressure (i.e., DJ settings) and got all whickey whichey with them I'd probably freak out. But that cart set to, say, 2.5 g's on a 1200 wouldn't hurt anyone's priceless LP collection. 1200s a great decks BTW and a lot of audiophiles are into them.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I know very little about the the audiophile scene, so I take your word for it. I did read years ago a WSJ piece about this Japanese guy that was so into high-high-end equipment that he paid the power company for a dedicated pole and specialty transformer for his apartment to get the "cleanest" power.YellowSnow said:
Damn @Gilbystaint , you've been holding back on us! @GrundleStiltzkin you can have a laff here, because I just got served in hi fi dick measuring.Gilbystaint said:
Yes, we have an RP6. I am using a Linn Uphorik phono pre. I had a Heed unit for many years that was a great overachiever. You @YellowSnow?YellowSnow said:
Do you have a Rega TT as well @Gilbystaint ? The HANA is a moving coil so what phono pre are you running?Gilbystaint said:
Ran my Rega into the ground, just replaced with HANA SLYellowSnow said:
Oh yeah. Some people have stupid money for this hobby. I propose a luxury phono cartridge tax. I'm a pour so this is as fancy I'm able to afford. https://www.needledoctor.com/Rega-Exact-2-CartridgeApostleofGrief said:
Thanks.YellowSnow said:It's going to start to sound duller and less crisp especially on the highs. Age of carts can also be a problem. Even if they aren't in use the parts of a phono cart can degrade. If you have some valuable records in the collection just be safe and get a new one. They aren't that expensive for a decent phono cart.
Hey, were you aware of these super high end cartridges? This is 1% class shit.... --->>> https://www.needledoctor.com/analog/analog-components/Phono-Cartridges
I got a RP3 a few years back (had a P2 for a long time before that). Went with the higher end (yellow, of course) Exact Cart though to try and get as close the P6 as possible. Both TT's have the same tone arm, but the P6 has some nice upgrades over the 3. I'm a big Rega fan and my next deck will probably be a P8.
No separate phono pre amp for me at the moment. It's next on my list (looking to get a Parasound JC3 Jr.) I have a vintage McIntosh receiver from circa 1980 and those, of course, came with pretty decent internal phono stage. But getting a separate will definitely yield some more detail.
I'm have Concord DJS on my 1200s, which would probably give you an anxiety attack to touch any of your collection.
My position on hi fi is that you get YUGE gains going from like a $500 TT to a $2000 one. But after a certain point the law of diminishing returns start to kick in. The Japanese guy you reference it's probably a bit of nut job.
From what I know of audiophile, it's like many other hobbies. Steep curve of quality-to-money from entry level until it falls of a cliff at a point like the $2000 deck. Home brewing, fishing, whatever. You can spend as much money as you want on it, but after the point you're chasing the smallest marginal improvements.
And yes that Japanese guy was nuts. I can't remember details, but he had a single component that was over $200,000.
Because I went the vintage route on speakers and amplification (both are nearly 4 decades old in my set up) my hi fi kit, would be had for about $4000.00 on ebay or in a local shop that sells used gear. Brand new gear that would have comparable sound would probably set you back $7000 to $8000 give or take.
On of my BFF's - a DINK with no mortgage - has about $17,000 into his set up. It definitely sounds better than mine, but he had to spend a lot more to get there. I'm like 81% of the way there for 23% of the investment. And my ear is pretty trained...a lot of boofs here might not notice as much of a difference.misspentawesome youth of firecrackers and firearms, and subsequent WAY too hot headphones. Some DJ mixers have ridiculously powerful headphone amps.
He's built up a pretty solid collection of fag tracks that you and @AZDuck would be impressed with. -
Pics or its a lie.YellowSnow said:
Ironically, my buddy used to be DJ and had a pair of 1200's. Ears still seem to work for him, but he only did it for about 3 years. Sold it off and got back into vinyl at my urging about 9 years ago.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I sure as hell wouldn't. My ears are blownout withYellowSnow said:
Agree.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I usually have tonearm weight set pretty low when I'm just messing around. Can't remember what I have tracking set to. But if you're playing live or recording a set and need things to be tight, you gotta crank up the weights and tracking. For me probably the biggest issue is cue burn.YellowSnow said:
If you set them the arm to 4 grams of tracking pressure (i.e., DJ settings) and got all whickey whichey with them I'd probably freak out. But that cart set to, say, 2.5 g's on a 1200 wouldn't hurt anyone's priceless LP collection. 1200s a great decks BTW and a lot of audiophiles are into them.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I know very little about the the audiophile scene, so I take your word for it. I did read years ago a WSJ piece about this Japanese guy that was so into high-high-end equipment that he paid the power company for a dedicated pole and specialty transformer for his apartment to get the "cleanest" power.YellowSnow said:
Damn @Gilbystaint , you've been holding back on us! @GrundleStiltzkin you can have a laff here, because I just got served in hi fi dick measuring.Gilbystaint said:
Yes, we have an RP6. I am using a Linn Uphorik phono pre. I had a Heed unit for many years that was a great overachiever. You @YellowSnow?YellowSnow said:
Do you have a Rega TT as well @Gilbystaint ? The HANA is a moving coil so what phono pre are you running?Gilbystaint said:
Ran my Rega into the ground, just replaced with HANA SLYellowSnow said:
Oh yeah. Some people have stupid money for this hobby. I propose a luxury phono cartridge tax. I'm a pour so this is as fancy I'm able to afford. https://www.needledoctor.com/Rega-Exact-2-CartridgeApostleofGrief said:
Thanks.YellowSnow said:It's going to start to sound duller and less crisp especially on the highs. Age of carts can also be a problem. Even if they aren't in use the parts of a phono cart can degrade. If you have some valuable records in the collection just be safe and get a new one. They aren't that expensive for a decent phono cart.
Hey, were you aware of these super high end cartridges? This is 1% class shit.... --->>> https://www.needledoctor.com/analog/analog-components/Phono-Cartridges
I got a RP3 a few years back (had a P2 for a long time before that). Went with the higher end (yellow, of course) Exact Cart though to try and get as close the P6 as possible. Both TT's have the same tone arm, but the P6 has some nice upgrades over the 3. I'm a big Rega fan and my next deck will probably be a P8.
No separate phono pre amp for me at the moment. It's next on my list (looking to get a Parasound JC3 Jr.) I have a vintage McIntosh receiver from circa 1980 and those, of course, came with pretty decent internal phono stage. But getting a separate will definitely yield some more detail.
I'm have Concord DJS on my 1200s, which would probably give you an anxiety attack to touch any of your collection.
My position on hi fi is that you get YUGE gains going from like a $500 TT to a $2000 one. But after a certain point the law of diminishing returns start to kick in. The Japanese guy you reference it's probably a bit of nut job.
From what I know of audiophile, it's like many other hobbies. Steep curve of quality-to-money from entry level until it falls of a cliff at a point like the $2000 deck. Home brewing, fishing, whatever. You can spend as much money as you want on it, but after the point you're chasing the smallest marginal improvements.
And yes that Japanese guy was nuts. I can't remember details, but he had a single component that was over $200,000.
Because I went the vintage route on speakers and amplification (both are nearly 4 decades old in my set up) my hi fi kit, would be had for about $4000.00 on ebay or in a local shop that sells used gear. Brand new gear that would have comparable sound would probably set you back $7000 to $8000 give or take.
On of my BFF's - a DINK with no mortgage - has about $17,000 into his set up. It definitely sounds better than mine, but he had to spend a lot more to get there. I'm like 81% of the way there for 23% of the investment. And my ear is pretty trained...a lot of boofs here might not notice as much of a difference.misspentawesome youth of firecrackers and firearms, and subsequent WAY too hot headphones. Some DJ mixers have ridiculously powerful headphone amps.
He's built up a pretty solid collection of fag tracks that you and @AZDuck would be impressed with.
I didn't "professionally" DJ much longer than your boy, but cuz my ears were kinda bad to begin with, I always had my phones up too loud. The guy I worked with had been in the business for 15 years at that point and his were ruthless loud. Plus we'd be like in a middle school gym or some shit, terrible acoustics, and you had to have loud monitoring to have an clue what the true sound was over the echoes.
I have Mackie mixer now. Mackie's DJ mixer line didn't really seem to catch on well, clearly nothing like their PA stuff. Despite it's flaws with the digital stuff they added on to it, the sound quality on this mixer is superb including the headphone amp. Blow your shit right out if you crank it.
Here I am pretending like I know something. I was a DJ in the slimmest, lowest sense. @AZDuck did the real thing. -
Is this feegy enuff? Listening to OG fatherland pressings of Kraftwerk on a high end system gives one a new appreciation for electronic music.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Pics or its a lie.YellowSnow said:
Ironically, my buddy used to be DJ and had a pair of 1200's. Ears still seem to work for him, but he only did it for about 3 years. Sold it off and got back into vinyl at my urging about 9 years ago.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I sure as hell wouldn't. My ears are blownout withYellowSnow said:
Agree.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I usually have tonearm weight set pretty low when I'm just messing around. Can't remember what I have tracking set to. But if you're playing live or recording a set and need things to be tight, you gotta crank up the weights and tracking. For me probably the biggest issue is cue burn.YellowSnow said:
If you set them the arm to 4 grams of tracking pressure (i.e., DJ settings) and got all whickey whichey with them I'd probably freak out. But that cart set to, say, 2.5 g's on a 1200 wouldn't hurt anyone's priceless LP collection. 1200s a great decks BTW and a lot of audiophiles are into them.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I know very little about the the audiophile scene, so I take your word for it. I did read years ago a WSJ piece about this Japanese guy that was so into high-high-end equipment that he paid the power company for a dedicated pole and specialty transformer for his apartment to get the "cleanest" power.YellowSnow said:
Damn @Gilbystaint , you've been holding back on us! @GrundleStiltzkin you can have a laff here, because I just got served in hi fi dick measuring.Gilbystaint said:
Yes, we have an RP6. I am using a Linn Uphorik phono pre. I had a Heed unit for many years that was a great overachiever. You @YellowSnow?YellowSnow said:
Do you have a Rega TT as well @Gilbystaint ? The HANA is a moving coil so what phono pre are you running?Gilbystaint said:
Ran my Rega into the ground, just replaced with HANA SLYellowSnow said:
Oh yeah. Some people have stupid money for this hobby. I propose a luxury phono cartridge tax. I'm a pour so this is as fancy I'm able to afford. https://www.needledoctor.com/Rega-Exact-2-CartridgeApostleofGrief said:
Thanks.YellowSnow said:It's going to start to sound duller and less crisp especially on the highs. Age of carts can also be a problem. Even if they aren't in use the parts of a phono cart can degrade. If you have some valuable records in the collection just be safe and get a new one. They aren't that expensive for a decent phono cart.
Hey, were you aware of these super high end cartridges? This is 1% class shit.... --->>> https://www.needledoctor.com/analog/analog-components/Phono-Cartridges
I got a RP3 a few years back (had a P2 for a long time before that). Went with the higher end (yellow, of course) Exact Cart though to try and get as close the P6 as possible. Both TT's have the same tone arm, but the P6 has some nice upgrades over the 3. I'm a big Rega fan and my next deck will probably be a P8.
No separate phono pre amp for me at the moment. It's next on my list (looking to get a Parasound JC3 Jr.) I have a vintage McIntosh receiver from circa 1980 and those, of course, came with pretty decent internal phono stage. But getting a separate will definitely yield some more detail.
I'm have Concord DJS on my 1200s, which would probably give you an anxiety attack to touch any of your collection.
My position on hi fi is that you get YUGE gains going from like a $500 TT to a $2000 one. But after a certain point the law of diminishing returns start to kick in. The Japanese guy you reference it's probably a bit of nut job.
From what I know of audiophile, it's like many other hobbies. Steep curve of quality-to-money from entry level until it falls of a cliff at a point like the $2000 deck. Home brewing, fishing, whatever. You can spend as much money as you want on it, but after the point you're chasing the smallest marginal improvements.
And yes that Japanese guy was nuts. I can't remember details, but he had a single component that was over $200,000.
Because I went the vintage route on speakers and amplification (both are nearly 4 decades old in my set up) my hi fi kit, would be had for about $4000.00 on ebay or in a local shop that sells used gear. Brand new gear that would have comparable sound would probably set you back $7000 to $8000 give or take.
On of my BFF's - a DINK with no mortgage - has about $17,000 into his set up. It definitely sounds better than mine, but he had to spend a lot more to get there. I'm like 81% of the way there for 23% of the investment. And my ear is pretty trained...a lot of boofs here might not notice as much of a difference.misspentawesome youth of firecrackers and firearms, and subsequent WAY too hot headphones. Some DJ mixers have ridiculously powerful headphone amps.
He's built up a pretty solid collection of fag tracks that you and @AZDuck would be impressed with.
I didn't "professionally" DJ much longer than your boy, but cuz my ears were kinda bad to begin with, I always had my phones up too loud. The guy I worked with had been in the business for 15 years at that point and his were ruthless loud. Plus we'd be like in a middle school gym or some shit, terrible acoustics, and you had to have loud monitoring to have an clue what the true sound was over the echoes.
I have Mackie mixer now. Mackie's DJ mixer line didn't really seem to catch on well, clearly nothing like their PA stuff. Despite it's flaws with the digital stuff they added on to it, the sound quality on this mixer is superb including the headphone amp. Blow your shit right out if you crank it.
Here I am pretending like I know something. I was a DJ in the slimmest, lowest sense. @AZDuck did the real thing.
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I wouldn't call Kraftwerk too faggy, at least not above the Teutonic techno bassline (lulz). I gotta confess, I like Kraftwerk the Chinfluencer much more than Kraftwerk itself.YellowSnow said:
Is this feegy enuff? Listening to OG fatherland pressings of Kraftwerk on a high end system gives one a new appreciation for electronic music.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Pics or its a lie.YellowSnow said:
Ironically, my buddy used to be DJ and had a pair of 1200's. Ears still seem to work for him, but he only did it for about 3 years. Sold it off and got back into vinyl at my urging about 9 years ago.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I sure as hell wouldn't. My ears are blownout withYellowSnow said:
Agree.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I usually have tonearm weight set pretty low when I'm just messing around. Can't remember what I have tracking set to. But if you're playing live or recording a set and need things to be tight, you gotta crank up the weights and tracking. For me probably the biggest issue is cue burn.YellowSnow said:
If you set them the arm to 4 grams of tracking pressure (i.e., DJ settings) and got all whickey whichey with them I'd probably freak out. But that cart set to, say, 2.5 g's on a 1200 wouldn't hurt anyone's priceless LP collection. 1200s a great decks BTW and a lot of audiophiles are into them.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I know very little about the the audiophile scene, so I take your word for it. I did read years ago a WSJ piece about this Japanese guy that was so into high-high-end equipment that he paid the power company for a dedicated pole and specialty transformer for his apartment to get the "cleanest" power.YellowSnow said:
Damn @Gilbystaint , you've been holding back on us! @GrundleStiltzkin you can have a laff here, because I just got served in hi fi dick measuring.Gilbystaint said:
Yes, we have an RP6. I am using a Linn Uphorik phono pre. I had a Heed unit for many years that was a great overachiever. You @YellowSnow?YellowSnow said:
Do you have a Rega TT as well @Gilbystaint ? The HANA is a moving coil so what phono pre are you running?Gilbystaint said:
Ran my Rega into the ground, just replaced with HANA SLYellowSnow said:
Oh yeah. Some people have stupid money for this hobby. I propose a luxury phono cartridge tax. I'm a pour so this is as fancy I'm able to afford. https://www.needledoctor.com/Rega-Exact-2-CartridgeApostleofGrief said:
Thanks.YellowSnow said:It's going to start to sound duller and less crisp especially on the highs. Age of carts can also be a problem. Even if they aren't in use the parts of a phono cart can degrade. If you have some valuable records in the collection just be safe and get a new one. They aren't that expensive for a decent phono cart.
Hey, were you aware of these super high end cartridges? This is 1% class shit.... --->>> https://www.needledoctor.com/analog/analog-components/Phono-Cartridges
I got a RP3 a few years back (had a P2 for a long time before that). Went with the higher end (yellow, of course) Exact Cart though to try and get as close the P6 as possible. Both TT's have the same tone arm, but the P6 has some nice upgrades over the 3. I'm a big Rega fan and my next deck will probably be a P8.
No separate phono pre amp for me at the moment. It's next on my list (looking to get a Parasound JC3 Jr.) I have a vintage McIntosh receiver from circa 1980 and those, of course, came with pretty decent internal phono stage. But getting a separate will definitely yield some more detail.
I'm have Concord DJS on my 1200s, which would probably give you an anxiety attack to touch any of your collection.
My position on hi fi is that you get YUGE gains going from like a $500 TT to a $2000 one. But after a certain point the law of diminishing returns start to kick in. The Japanese guy you reference it's probably a bit of nut job.
From what I know of audiophile, it's like many other hobbies. Steep curve of quality-to-money from entry level until it falls of a cliff at a point like the $2000 deck. Home brewing, fishing, whatever. You can spend as much money as you want on it, but after the point you're chasing the smallest marginal improvements.
And yes that Japanese guy was nuts. I can't remember details, but he had a single component that was over $200,000.
Because I went the vintage route on speakers and amplification (both are nearly 4 decades old in my set up) my hi fi kit, would be had for about $4000.00 on ebay or in a local shop that sells used gear. Brand new gear that would have comparable sound would probably set you back $7000 to $8000 give or take.
On of my BFF's - a DINK with no mortgage - has about $17,000 into his set up. It definitely sounds better than mine, but he had to spend a lot more to get there. I'm like 81% of the way there for 23% of the investment. And my ear is pretty trained...a lot of boofs here might not notice as much of a difference.misspentawesome youth of firecrackers and firearms, and subsequent WAY too hot headphones. Some DJ mixers have ridiculously powerful headphone amps.
He's built up a pretty solid collection of fag tracks that you and @AZDuck would be impressed with.
I didn't "professionally" DJ much longer than your boy, but cuz my ears were kinda bad to begin with, I always had my phones up too loud. The guy I worked with had been in the business for 15 years at that point and his were ruthless loud. Plus we'd be like in a middle school gym or some shit, terrible acoustics, and you had to have loud monitoring to have an clue what the true sound was over the echoes.
I have Mackie mixer now. Mackie's DJ mixer line didn't really seem to catch on well, clearly nothing like their PA stuff. Despite it's flaws with the digital stuff they added on to it, the sound quality on this mixer is superb including the headphone amp. Blow your shit right out if you crank it.
Here I am pretending like I know something. I was a DJ in the slimmest, lowest sense. @AZDuck did the real thing. -
My appreciation is more from the historical / chinfluencer perspective as well. Still fun to listen to now and then.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I wouldn't call Kraftwerk too faggy, at least not above the Teutonic techno bassline (lulz). I gotta confess, I like Kraftwerk the Chinfluencer much more than Kraftwerk itself.YellowSnow said:
Is this feegy enuff? Listening to OG fatherland pressings of Kraftwerk on a high end system gives one a new appreciation for electronic music.GrundleStiltzkin said:
Pics or its a lie.YellowSnow said:
Ironically, my buddy used to be DJ and had a pair of 1200's. Ears still seem to work for him, but he only did it for about 3 years. Sold it off and got back into vinyl at my urging about 9 years ago.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I sure as hell wouldn't. My ears are blownout withYellowSnow said:
Agree.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I usually have tonearm weight set pretty low when I'm just messing around. Can't remember what I have tracking set to. But if you're playing live or recording a set and need things to be tight, you gotta crank up the weights and tracking. For me probably the biggest issue is cue burn.YellowSnow said:
If you set them the arm to 4 grams of tracking pressure (i.e., DJ settings) and got all whickey whichey with them I'd probably freak out. But that cart set to, say, 2.5 g's on a 1200 wouldn't hurt anyone's priceless LP collection. 1200s a great decks BTW and a lot of audiophiles are into them.GrundleStiltzkin said:
I know very little about the the audiophile scene, so I take your word for it. I did read years ago a WSJ piece about this Japanese guy that was so into high-high-end equipment that he paid the power company for a dedicated pole and specialty transformer for his apartment to get the "cleanest" power.YellowSnow said:
Damn @Gilbystaint , you've been holding back on us! @GrundleStiltzkin you can have a laff here, because I just got served in hi fi dick measuring.Gilbystaint said:
Yes, we have an RP6. I am using a Linn Uphorik phono pre. I had a Heed unit for many years that was a great overachiever. You @YellowSnow?YellowSnow said:
Do you have a Rega TT as well @Gilbystaint ? The HANA is a moving coil so what phono pre are you running?Gilbystaint said:
Ran my Rega into the ground, just replaced with HANA SLYellowSnow said:
Oh yeah. Some people have stupid money for this hobby. I propose a luxury phono cartridge tax. I'm a pour so this is as fancy I'm able to afford. https://www.needledoctor.com/Rega-Exact-2-CartridgeApostleofGrief said:
Thanks.YellowSnow said:It's going to start to sound duller and less crisp especially on the highs. Age of carts can also be a problem. Even if they aren't in use the parts of a phono cart can degrade. If you have some valuable records in the collection just be safe and get a new one. They aren't that expensive for a decent phono cart.
Hey, were you aware of these super high end cartridges? This is 1% class shit.... --->>> https://www.needledoctor.com/analog/analog-components/Phono-Cartridges
I got a RP3 a few years back (had a P2 for a long time before that). Went with the higher end (yellow, of course) Exact Cart though to try and get as close the P6 as possible. Both TT's have the same tone arm, but the P6 has some nice upgrades over the 3. I'm a big Rega fan and my next deck will probably be a P8.
No separate phono pre amp for me at the moment. It's next on my list (looking to get a Parasound JC3 Jr.) I have a vintage McIntosh receiver from circa 1980 and those, of course, came with pretty decent internal phono stage. But getting a separate will definitely yield some more detail.
I'm have Concord DJS on my 1200s, which would probably give you an anxiety attack to touch any of your collection.
My position on hi fi is that you get YUGE gains going from like a $500 TT to a $2000 one. But after a certain point the law of diminishing returns start to kick in. The Japanese guy you reference it's probably a bit of nut job.
From what I know of audiophile, it's like many other hobbies. Steep curve of quality-to-money from entry level until it falls of a cliff at a point like the $2000 deck. Home brewing, fishing, whatever. You can spend as much money as you want on it, but after the point you're chasing the smallest marginal improvements.
And yes that Japanese guy was nuts. I can't remember details, but he had a single component that was over $200,000.
Because I went the vintage route on speakers and amplification (both are nearly 4 decades old in my set up) my hi fi kit, would be had for about $4000.00 on ebay or in a local shop that sells used gear. Brand new gear that would have comparable sound would probably set you back $7000 to $8000 give or take.
On of my BFF's - a DINK with no mortgage - has about $17,000 into his set up. It definitely sounds better than mine, but he had to spend a lot more to get there. I'm like 81% of the way there for 23% of the investment. And my ear is pretty trained...a lot of boofs here might not notice as much of a difference.misspentawesome youth of firecrackers and firearms, and subsequent WAY too hot headphones. Some DJ mixers have ridiculously powerful headphone amps.
He's built up a pretty solid collection of fag tracks that you and @AZDuck would be impressed with.
I didn't "professionally" DJ much longer than your boy, but cuz my ears were kinda bad to begin with, I always had my phones up too loud. The guy I worked with had been in the business for 15 years at that point and his were ruthless loud. Plus we'd be like in a middle school gym or some shit, terrible acoustics, and you had to have loud monitoring to have an clue what the true sound was over the echoes.
I have Mackie mixer now. Mackie's DJ mixer line didn't really seem to catch on well, clearly nothing like their PA stuff. Despite it's flaws with the digital stuff they added on to it, the sound quality on this mixer is superb including the headphone amp. Blow your shit right out if you crank it.
Here I am pretending like I know something. I was a DJ in the slimmest, lowest sense. @AZDuck did the real thing. -
Having a hard tim this morning thinking of something over the top faggy in colorection. I mean, most good house is pretty faggy by association.
Random hard hitter, let you judge whether faggy.
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Kind reminds me of this classic dittyGrundleStiltzkin said:Ha, problem solved.
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Wow, went to work and needle hot talk exploded. Nice choice in McIntosh receiver. I am with you and think vintage is the way to go. Rega gives you a lot performance, the P8 is a real winner. I only listen to vinyl and am trying to justify going to clearaudio with the new tracer arm or staying in the Rega family. All the kids are grown.YellowSnow said:
Damn @Gilbystaint , you've been holding back on us! @GrundleStiltzkin you can have a laff here, because I just got served in hi fi dick measuring.Gilbystaint said:
Yes, we have an RP6. I am using a Linn Uphorik phono pre. I had a Heed unit for many years that was a great overachiever. You @YellowSnow?YellowSnow said:
Do you have a Rega TT as well @Gilbystaint ? The HANA is a moving coil so what phono pre are you running?Gilbystaint said:
Ran my Rega into the ground, just replaced with HANA SLYellowSnow said:
Oh yeah. Some people have stupid money for this hobby. I propose a luxury phono cartridge tax. I'm a pour so this is as fancy I'm able to afford. https://www.needledoctor.com/Rega-Exact-2-CartridgeApostleofGrief said:
Thanks.YellowSnow said:It's going to start to sound duller and less crisp especially on the highs. Age of carts can also be a problem. Even if they aren't in use the parts of a phono cart can degrade. If you have some valuable records in the collection just be safe and get a new one. They aren't that expensive for a decent phono cart.
Hey, were you aware of these super high end cartridges? This is 1% class shit.... --->>> https://www.needledoctor.com/analog/analog-components/Phono-Cartridges
I got a RP3 a few years back (had a P2 for a long time before that). Went with the higher end (yellow, of course) Exact Cart though to try and get as close the P6 as possible. Both TT's have the same tone arm, but the P6 has some nice upgrades over the 3. I'm a big Rega fan and my next deck will probably be a P8.
No separate phono pre amp for me at the moment. It's next on my list (looking to get a Parasound JC3 Jr.) I have a vintage McIntosh receiver from circa 1980 and those, of course, came with pretty decent internal phono stage. But getting a separate will definitely yield some more detail. -
@Gilbystaint i just think you can't go wrong with a Rega TT. They are are so dang easy to set up and each price point seem to be better reviewed than Clear Audio, VPI, etc. Obviously both Clear Audio and VPI both make higher end players than the P10 that cost an arm and a leg.
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This is exactly what I keep coming back to. I was listening to Herbie Hancock “Emprean Isles” and it just sounded so good with my unit. I can imagine how it will open things up with the RP 10 and the RB 2000 arm. This is going to be my last purchase.YellowSnow said:@Gilbystaint i just think you can't go wrong with a Rega TT. They are are so dang easy to set up and each price point seem to be better reviewed than Clear Audio, VPI, etc. Obviously both Clear Audio and VPI both make higher end players than the P10 that cost an arm and a leg.
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Plus @YellowSnow, they are just frickin’ cool looking!
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Check this out @GilbystaintGilbystaint said:Plus @YellowSnow, they are just frickin’ cool looking!
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I've got some used blankets for you...Swaye said:Goddamn, all of my e-friends here are audiophiles. Send me your old shit that isn't broken when you upgrade so I can get in on this fun. I have no shame in asking for second hand items from rich whites.
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No idea about vinyl what so ever but my dad's collection is one of those perfect collections that spans the 60's-80's that people mythologize. He's got a set up that cost about $10k back in the 70's from before he got stuck with a family. He continues to talk about giving it to me and upgrading all his stuff now and I quietly continue to agree to take it all off his hands and give it a good home. I'll come to you fucks for advice when it finally lands in my hands.
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Do you know what make of amplification and speakers are in his set up?UW_Doog_Bot said:No idea about vinyl what so ever but my dad's collection is one of those perfect collections that spans the 60's-80's that people mythologize. He's got a set up that cost about $10k back in the 70's from before he got stuck with a family. He continues to talk about giving it to me and upgrading all his stuff now and I quietly continue to agree to take it all off his hands and give it a good home. I'll come to you fucks for advice when it finally lands in my hands.
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Nope! I'll be sure to grab some pics the next time I'm over there though.YellowSnow said:
Do you know what make of amplification and speakers are in his set up?UW_Doog_Bot said:No idea about vinyl what so ever but my dad's collection is one of those perfect collections that spans the 60's-80's that people mythologize. He's got a set up that cost about $10k back in the 70's from before he got stuck with a family. He continues to talk about giving it to me and upgrading all his stuff now and I quietly continue to agree to take it all off his hands and give it a good home. I'll come to you fucks for advice when it finally lands in my hands.
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Why in god's name is this song 7 minutes long?!GrundleStiltzkin said:Ha, problem solved.
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Cuz poppersUW_Doog_Bot said:
Why in god's name is this song 7 minutes long?!GrundleStiltzkin said:Ha, problem solved.
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Cuz poppersUW_Doog_Bot said:
Why in god's name is this song 7 minutes long?!GrundleStiltzkin said:Ha, problem solved.
This is awfulhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmgaOAmHlS4
