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Mexico elects a retard socialist as President

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  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726
    edited July 2018

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
    Exactly why a lot of Bernie bros voted for Trump over Hillary.

    Trump has more in common with Bernie than he does, say, Ted Cruz. The only real similarity between Trump and Cruz is their willingness to play/pander to evangelicals (Trump) and be an evangelical (Cruz).
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,839 Standard Supporter

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
    Less government. Fuck socialists.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
    I don't understand how they can actually support this guy. They should know better from the examples from history, especially the recent history of Venezuela. This isn't about being conservative or being liberal. It's about being on the clock, recognizing the writing on the wall, and getting important shit done to preserve and defend the republic from itself. The republican party is a tool to be used for a time and season to get this done. Most of them will become more corrupted the longer they're in power, like happens with every party. It's why we need to amend the constitution to include term limits.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    Pretty sure Mexico would just support anyone new

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,207
    dnc said:

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
    Exactly why a lot of Bernie bros voted for Trump over Hillary.

    Trump has more in common with Bernie than he does, say, Ted Cruz. The only real similarity between Trump and Cruz is their willingness to play/pander to evangelicals (Trump) and be an evangelical (Cruz).
    Of course I can't know this for certain, but I strongly suspect (1) Trump is pandering (I don't think he's a religious guy at his core) and (2) Cruz is not pandering (I think is fundamentally a religious guy).

    If one of them is pulling the wool, it's Trump, not Cruz.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited July 2018
    dnc said:

    salemcoog said:

    He’ll take cartel bribes the right way though. Why does Mexico even bother with any elections when the Cartels run the Country and Military anyway.

    Maybe the cartels in charge want them to have elections, ever think of that?
    Big if true. Many reports of not enough ballots generated for the amount of voters across the country. At least in Q Roo. Probably standard ops down there and explains the 3 day prohibition for locals around Election Day.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,779 Founders Club
    edited July 2018
    How many illegals from the USA voted for him?
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    Obrador’s platform:
    Nationalist. Populist. Protectionist.

    He’s got a huge fan base on football club Chivas’ Taberna del Remolcador bored.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,726

    dnc said:

    https://newstatesman.com/world/north-america/2018/07/who-lopez-obrador-mexico-s-new-socialist-firebrand-president

    Beset by corruption, poverty and endemic violence, Mexican voters sent a message of desperation on Sunday by voting overwhelmingly to make socialist Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador their next president. This is bad for the U.S., but even worse for Mexico.

    President Trump did the neighborly thing in congratulating Obrador on his victory and pledged to work with him. But in fact Obrador's win bodes ill for future relations. His talking points for the policies he'll pursue once in office sound much more like Venezuela's late socialist dictator Hugo Chavez than, say, Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher.

    For starters, Obrador vows to renationalize the oil industry, halt all cooperation with U.S. immigration laws, give amnesty to the drug cartels, boost farm subsidies and remove "multinational" investment in agriculture, encourage mass migration by Mexicans to the U.S., while using remittances from workers in the U.S. to fuel Mexican growth.

    What is chintresting, and I kid you not, is that many of your fellow Trump supporters who we know and are connected to my wife on social media have expressed support for, or at the very least interest in, this guy as a new-era populist.

    I think you'll find that your nuvo American conservatism isn't as far removed politically from the socialists. You don't want less government. You just want to get more of your guysm in there to get their reads down.
    Exactly why a lot of Bernie bros voted for Trump over Hillary.

    Trump has more in common with Bernie than he does, say, Ted Cruz. The only real similarity between Trump and Cruz is their willingness to play/pander to evangelicals (Trump) and be an evangelical (Cruz).
    Of course I can't know this for certain, but I strongly suspect (1) Trump is pandering (I don't think he's a religious guy at his core) and (2) Cruz is not pandering (I think is fundamentally a religious guy).

    If one of them is pulling the wool, it's Trump, not Cruz.
    That's basically what I was saying
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885
    edited July 2018

    Sledog said:

    Build that wall! Oh and put guns on it.

    Helps Trump, hurts open borders democrats. With a Hugo Chavez style socialist in power south of the border promising not to do shit about cartels or illegal immigration, throw out the script, they're toast.
    Ummm. The old guy didn’t do Shit about cartels Or de suasion of illegal immigration. This won’t make the Dems bat an eye. Not when the morning news still leads with ICE protests and 4 year old pics and videos of kids in foil blankets.
  • KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,885

    Obrador’s platform:
    Nationalist. Populist. Protectionist.

    He’s got a huge fan base on football club Chivas’ Taberna del Remolcador bored.

    Why do you hate FC America???
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,949
    Does trump do a religious thing?

    I haven't really watched him at all besides meme videos.

    If so, that's preposterous.
  • CirrhosisDawgCirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    salemcoog said:

    Obrador’s platform:
    Nationalist. Populist. Protectionist.

    He’s got a huge fan base on football club Chivas’ Taberna del Remolcador bored.

    Why do you hate FC America???
    They used to be competitive, creative and efficient. Now they flop, blame referees and “unfair” competition for their failures.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2018

    Mexico needs to get their shit together. There is no reason people should need to flee form there. They has a fucked up culture and should be embarrassed as a people.

    And they can't make a World Cup final. Can't omit that.
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