Watched the youtube video (I refuse to call it film) against ASU and he didn’t impact the game much. He didn’t look bad tho.
Still can never get over so many actually thinking he sucked. And don’t give me the bullshit about him only being good as a senior. It’s been proven that he was at least above average from his freshman year.
He got better over time, stopped over-running plays and at least got a hand on guys to slow them down and wait for the help. Many times we saw him jump on a RBs back, who then carried him 4 to 7 yards forward, but he hung on and rode the bull down, so there's that, and that is better than Psalm the Whoosher ever was. BBK had speed and could get into the backfield. He just wasn't heavy enough or a good enough tackler to take guys down and out like we want to see. He couldn't push a guard back at all, so he had to run around them, unlike other LBs who can push OLs back, collapse the pocket and disrupt plays. Wish him and his two moms the best in his NFL career.
Taking on blocks is an overrated skill outside of DL. It’s better to anticipate and avoid them. There are times where it’s good to take on a block so a teammate can make the play, but in space, avoid them. Budda was the best at this.
It's not just taking on blocks, but blowing up, or at least engaging the guard and disrupting the OLs two-on-one play by forcing the OT into a one-on-one with the DT, which collapses the pocket. BBK wasn't built to do that. It's not his fault that he's not that big or heavy. That's a recruiting issue.
But he frequently tackled very high and rode on RBs backs because he didn't have the size or strength to collapse the pocket or tackle RBs for a loss when he was in the backfield and getting a hand on them. We frequently saw potential 3 or 4 yard losses turned into 3 or 4 yard gains when BBK started with a hand or arm on a guy in the backfield, but got dragged or carried forward for plus yards.
How many inside linebackers are you watching in today's game that actually do the things you're spelling out? Nobody is looking for a Brian Urlacher type anymore. Being able to diagnose plays and cover sideline to sideline is infinitely more valuable than being able to "blow up" offensive linemen (I honestly cannot remember the last football game where I saw an inside linebacker do that).
I was wrong —sort of —about BBK. He made himself into an amazing player. Opposing offenses did target him in the run game and the defense struggled against quality power running teams.
I blame Gregory. BBK belonged at WIL playing alongside a prototypical thumper with. They don’t grow on trees. They’re tough prying away from the Bluebloods. But so was Tui, so was Tuitele, So were Bandes and Taki.
Jimmy Lake can go toe to toe on any player.
The James teams had mostly equal talent in each of the position groups, clearly not the case here. Pete is a hell of a coach but until we get a balanced roster, we aren’t going above Pac12 championships and NY6 invites.
Bashing the kids sucks. It’s more of an indictment of the holes on the roster. O’Brien belonged at Oregon State or in the WAC, not on a team trying to win the PAC 12 and an NY6
On one hand the coaches have proven they can develop the recruits we scoff at, but they shouldn’t get the “trust the coaches pass” until UW wins an NY6
Never understood the thought that teams targeted BBK. Every team but the Cuog runs the ball between the tackles.
3:20 is the only play he is the first player to Ballage, 3 yards into the backfield. Ballage process to gain 11 yards and get first down after bbk 'tackles' him.
Tackling dumby would have stopped ballage after a gain of 5. Short of the first down.
BBK had 0 impact the rest of the game.
Most of his tackles are diving at guys who are already falling down.
This is fucking hysterical.
HEADY PLAYER WITHE HIGH MOTOR...
...does nothing but go to the wrong place, get pushed out of the way and hits like a feather falling to the floor.
Also: Myles Bryant... yeeeeeeesh.
Also: Ryan Bowman gets upfield. I bet by his senior year Bowman will be really good against 9-10 teams on our schedule.
This is one of my favorite shitty DDY takes. BBK and Bryant are awful, but Ryan Bowman is going to be the saving grace of the defense. For a smart guy, Dennis sure is a fucking idiot.
The Stanford 2017 game was peak DDY idiocy. Allow e heard was how Myles Bryant got abused when Joyner and Molden also did. We didn’t have any CB to match up with Stanford’s TE’s and WR’s. I hate cherry picking. They all got beat that game, it wasn’t just Myles Bryant.
3:20 is the only play he is the first player to Ballage, 3 yards into the backfield. Ballage process to gain 11 yards and get first down after bbk 'tackles' him.
Tackling dumby would have stopped ballage after a gain of 5. Short of the first down.
BBK had 0 impact the rest of the game.
Most of his tackles are diving at guys who are already falling down.
This is fucking hysterical.
HEADY PLAYER WITHE HIGH MOTOR...
...does nothing but go to the wrong place, get pushed out of the way and hits like a feather falling to the floor.
Also: Myles Bryant... yeeeeeeesh.
Also: Ryan Bowman gets upfield. I bet by his senior year Bowman will be really good against 9-10 teams on our schedule.
This is one of my favorite shitty DDY takes. BBK and Bryant are awful, but Ryan Bowman is going to be the saving grace of the defense. For a smart guy, Dennis sure is a fucking idiot.
The Stanford 2017 game was peak DDY idiocy. Allow e heard was how Myles Bryant got abused when Joyner and Molden also did. We didn’t have any CB to match up with Stanford’s TE’s and WR’s. I hate cherry picking. They all got beat that game, it wasn’t just Myles Bryant.
Joyner at least took snowbored boy with him out the door.
3:20 is the only play he is the first player to Ballage, 3 yards into the backfield. Ballage process to gain 11 yards and get first down after bbk 'tackles' him.
Tackling dumby would have stopped ballage after a gain of 5. Short of the first down.
BBK had 0 impact the rest of the game.
Most of his tackles are diving at guys who are already falling down.
This is fucking hysterical.
HEADY PLAYER WITHE HIGH MOTOR...
...does nothing but go to the wrong place, get pushed out of the way and hits like a feather falling to the floor.
Also: Myles Bryant... yeeeeeeesh.
Also: Ryan Bowman gets upfield. I bet by his senior year Bowman will be really good against 9-10 teams on our schedule.
This is one of my favorite shitty DDY takes. BBK and Bryant are awful, but Ryan Bowman is going to be the saving grace of the defense. For a smart guy, Dennis sure is a fucking idiot.
The Stanford 2017 game was peak DDY idiocy. Allow e heard was how Myles Bryant got abused when Joyner and Molden also did. We didn’t have any CB to match up with Stanford’s TE’s and WR’s. I hate cherry picking. They all got beat that game, it wasn’t just Myles Bryant.
When Dennis hates a player it follows them through their time at UW. Newton is that guy right now.
I was wrong —sort of —about BBK. He made himself into an amazing player. Opposing offenses did target him in the run game and the defense struggled against quality power running teams.
I blame Gregory. BBK belonged at WIL playing alongside a prototypical thumper with. They don’t grow on trees. They’re tough prying away from the Bluebloods. But so was Tui, so was Tuitele, So were Bandes and Taki.
Jimmy Lake can go toe to toe on any player.
The James teams had mostly equal talent in each of the position groups, clearly not the case here. Pete is a hell of a coach but until we get a balanced roster, we aren’t going above Pac12 championships and NY6 invites.
Bashing the kids sucks. It’s more of an indictment of the holes on the roster. O’Brien belonged at Oregon State or in the WAC, not on a team trying to win the PAC 12 and an NY6
On one hand the coaches have proven they can develop the recruits we scoff at, but they shouldn’t get the “trust the coaches pass” until UW wins an NY6
O’brien at least could contain and be disciplined on maintaining the edge
I thought O’Brien was pretty good his junior year. I was surprised. If you’re going to have weak spots, it’s better to have guys who play assignment sound football, which o’Brien seemed to do.
He was ok. If we're going anywhere beyond NY6 losses we need more of this
3:20 is the only play he is the first player to Ballage, 3 yards into the backfield. Ballage process to gain 11 yards and get first down after bbk 'tackles' him.
Tackling dumby would have stopped ballage after a gain of 5. Short of the first down.
BBK had 0 impact the rest of the game.
Most of his tackles are diving at guys who are already falling down.
This is fucking hysterical.
HEADY PLAYER WITHE HIGH MOTOR...
...does nothing but go to the wrong place, get pushed out of the way and hits like a feather falling to the floor.
Also: Myles Bryant... yeeeeeeesh.
Also: Ryan Bowman gets upfield. I bet by his senior year Bowman will be really good against 9-10 teams on our schedule.
This is one of my favorite shitty DDY takes. BBK and Bryant are awful, but Ryan Bowman is going to be the saving grace of the defense. For a smart guy, Dennis sure is a fucking idiot.
The Stanford 2017 game was peak DDY idiocy. Allow e heard was how Myles Bryant got abused when Joyner and Molden also did. We didn’t have any CB to match up with Stanford’s TE’s and WR’s. I hate cherry picking. They all got beat that game, it wasn’t just Myles Bryant.
When Dennis hates a player it follows them through their time at UW. Newton is that guy right now.
He’s given Newton reluctant props, but we still hear about his lack of speed and a cherry picked play where Newton missed a running lane that showed he doesn’t have vision.
And like always, it comes back to Newton’s recruiting ranking and opinion of his HS film. If he was a 4 star that was wanted by the big boys, we would hear how physical Newton is and any mistake he made would be because he’s young.
3:20 is the only play he is the first player to Ballage, 3 yards into the backfield. Ballage process to gain 11 yards and get first down after bbk 'tackles' him.
Tackling dumby would have stopped ballage after a gain of 5. Short of the first down.
BBK had 0 impact the rest of the game.
Most of his tackles are diving at guys who are already falling down.
This is fucking hysterical.
HEADY PLAYER WITHE HIGH MOTOR...
...does nothing but go to the wrong place, get pushed out of the way and hits like a feather falling to the floor.
Also: Myles Bryant... yeeeeeeesh.
Also: Ryan Bowman gets upfield. I bet by his senior year Bowman will be really good against 9-10 teams on our schedule.
This is one of my favorite shitty DDY takes. BBK and Bryant are awful, but Ryan Bowman is going to be the saving grace of the defense. For a smart guy, Dennis sure is a fucking idiot.
The Stanford 2017 game was peak DDY idiocy. Allow e heard was how Myles Bryant got abused when Joyner and Molden also did. We didn’t have any CB to match up with Stanford’s TE’s and WR’s. I hate cherry picking. They all got beat that game, it wasn’t just Myles Bryant.
When Dennis hates a player it follows them through their time at UW. Newton is that guy right now.
He’s given Newton reluctant props, but we still hear about his lack of speed and a cherry picked play where Newton missed a running lane that showed he doesn’t have vision.
And like always, it comes back to Newton’s recruiting ranking and opinion of his HS film. If he was a 4 star that was wanted by the big boys, we would hear how physical Newton is and any mistake he made would be because he’s young.
Dennis and I agree on most things. Not Newton. The 24th ranked RB nationally, 2nd on the west coast, and a composite rating a pubic hair behind Chris Brown; Newton was not chuck steak. An early March 2017 offer, he signed nine months later in the December signing period.
I love Newton. He runs Alpha angry, a style I haven't seen in purple and gold since Corey Dillon. Not saying he's Corey Dillon, so don't twist.
3:20 is the only play he is the first player to Ballage, 3 yards into the backfield. Ballage process to gain 11 yards and get first down after bbk 'tackles' him.
Tackling dumby would have stopped ballage after a gain of 5. Short of the first down.
BBK had 0 impact the rest of the game.
Most of his tackles are diving at guys who are already falling down.
This is fucking hysterical.
HEADY PLAYER WITHE HIGH MOTOR...
...does nothing but go to the wrong place, get pushed out of the way and hits like a feather falling to the floor.
Also: Myles Bryant... yeeeeeeesh.
Also: Ryan Bowman gets upfield. I bet by his senior year Bowman will be really good against 9-10 teams on our schedule.
This is one of my favorite shitty DDY takes. BBK and Bryant are awful, but Ryan Bowman is going to be the saving grace of the defense. For a smart guy, Dennis sure is a fucking idiot.
The Stanford 2017 game was peak DDY idiocy. Allow e heard was how Myles Bryant got abused when Joyner and Molden also did. We didn’t have any CB to match up with Stanford’s TE’s and WR’s. I hate cherry picking. They all got beat that game, it wasn’t just Myles Bryant.
BBKs speed allowed him to get to runners that otherwise would have busted free. A lot of those plays getting "dragged" would have been house calls with any other personnel.
It's not just the DBs to thank for allowing so few explosive plays the past couple of years, we had a true sideline to sideline LB preventing huge runs.
3:20 is the only play he is the first player to Ballage, 3 yards into the backfield. Ballage process to gain 11 yards and get first down after bbk 'tackles' him.
Tackling dumby would have stopped ballage after a gain of 5. Short of the first down.
BBK had 0 impact the rest of the game.
Most of his tackles are diving at guys who are already falling down.
This is fucking hysterical.
HEADY PLAYER WITHE HIGH MOTOR...
...does nothing but go to the wrong place, get pushed out of the way and hits like a feather falling to the floor.
Also: Myles Bryant... yeeeeeeesh.
Also: Ryan Bowman gets upfield. I bet by his senior year Bowman will be really good against 9-10 teams on our schedule.
This is one of my favorite shitty DDY takes. BBK and Bryant are awful, but Ryan Bowman is going to be the saving grace of the defense. For a smart guy, Dennis sure is a fucking idiot.
The Stanford 2017 game was peak DDY idiocy. Allow e heard was how Myles Bryant got abused when Joyner and Molden also did. We didn’t have any CB to match up with Stanford’s TE’s and WR’s. I hate cherry picking. They all got beat that game, it wasn’t just Myles Bryant.
When Dennis hates a player it follows them through their time at UW. Newton is that guy right now.
He’s given Newton reluctant props, but we still hear about his lack of speed and a cherry picked play where Newton missed a running lane that showed he doesn’t have vision.
And like always, it comes back to Newton’s recruiting ranking and opinion of his HS film. If he was a 4 star that was wanted by the big boys, we would hear how physical Newton is and any mistake he made would be because he’s young.
3:20 is the only play he is the first player to Ballage, 3 yards into the backfield. Ballage process to gain 11 yards and get first down after bbk 'tackles' him.
Tackling dumby would have stopped ballage after a gain of 5. Short of the first down.
BBK had 0 impact the rest of the game.
Most of his tackles are diving at guys who are already falling down.
This is fucking hysterical.
HEADY PLAYER WITHE HIGH MOTOR...
...does nothing but go to the wrong place, get pushed out of the way and hits like a feather falling to the floor.
Also: Myles Bryant... yeeeeeeesh.
Also: Ryan Bowman gets upfield. I bet by his senior year Bowman will be really good against 9-10 teams on our schedule.
This is one of my favorite shitty DDY takes. BBK and Bryant are awful, but Ryan Bowman is going to be the saving grace of the defense. For a smart guy, Dennis sure is a fucking idiot.
The Stanford 2017 game was peak DDY idiocy. Allow e heard was how Myles Bryant got abused when Joyner and Molden also did. We didn’t have any CB to match up with Stanford’s TE’s and WR’s. I hate cherry picking. They all got beat that game, it wasn’t just Myles Bryant.
When Dennis hates a player it follows them through their time at UW. Newton is that guy right now.
He’s given Newton reluctant props, but we still hear about his lack of speed and a cherry picked play where Newton missed a running lane that showed he doesn’t have vision.
And like always, it comes back to Newton’s recruiting ranking and opinion of his HS film. If he was a 4 star that was wanted by the big boys, we would hear how physical Newton is and any mistake he made would be because he’s young.
Dennis and I agree on most things. Not Newton. The 24th ranked RB nationally, 2nd on the west coast, and a composite rating a pubic hair behind Chris Brown; Newton was not chuck steak. An early March 2017 offer, he signed nine months later in the December signing period.
I love Newton. He runs Alpha angry, a style I haven't seen in purple and gold since Corey Dillon. Not saying he's Corey Dillon, so don't twist.
If anyone hasn’t realized that Newton is a baller, they are an idiot. “But Saquan Barkley is better!”
3:20 is the only play he is the first player to Ballage, 3 yards into the backfield. Ballage process to gain 11 yards and get first down after bbk 'tackles' him.
Tackling dumby would have stopped ballage after a gain of 5. Short of the first down.
BBK had 0 impact the rest of the game.
Most of his tackles are diving at guys who are already falling down.
This is fucking hysterical.
HEADY PLAYER WITHE HIGH MOTOR...
...does nothing but go to the wrong place, get pushed out of the way and hits like a feather falling to the floor.
Also: Myles Bryant... yeeeeeeesh.
Also: Ryan Bowman gets upfield. I bet by his senior year Bowman will be really good against 9-10 teams on our schedule.
This is one of my favorite shitty DDY takes. BBK and Bryant are awful, but Ryan Bowman is going to be the saving grace of the defense. For a smart guy, Dennis sure is a fucking idiot.
The Stanford 2017 game was peak DDY idiocy. Allow e heard was how Myles Bryant got abused when Joyner and Molden also did. We didn’t have any CB to match up with Stanford’s TE’s and WR’s. I hate cherry picking. They all got beat that game, it wasn’t just Myles Bryant.
When Dennis hates a player it follows them through their time at UW. Newton is that guy right now.
He’s given Newton reluctant props, but we still hear about his lack of speed and a cherry picked play where Newton missed a running lane that showed he doesn’t have vision.
And like always, it comes back to Newton’s recruiting ranking and opinion of his HS film. If he was a 4 star that was wanted by the big boys, we would hear how physical Newton is and any mistake he made would be because he’s young.
Dennis and I agree on most things. Not Newton. The 24th ranked RB nationally, 2nd on the west coast, and a composite rating a pubic hair behind Chris Brown; Newton was not chuck steak. An early March 2017 offer, he signed nine months later in the December signing period.
I love Newton. He runs Alpha angry, a style I haven't seen in purple and gold since Corey Dillon. Not saying he's Corey Dillon, so don't twist.
If anyone hasn’t realized that Newton is a baller, they are an idiot. “But Saquan Barkley is better!”
Run that by the Dawgman folks. At best, Barkley gets 50% of the votes
Watched the youtube video (I refuse to call it film) against ASU and he didn’t impact the game much. He didn’t look bad tho.
Still can never get over so many actually thinking he sucked. And don’t give me the bullshit about him only being good as a senior. It’s been proven that he was at least above average from his freshman year.
He got better over time, stopped over-running plays and at least got a hand on guys to slow them down and wait for the help. Many times we saw him jump on a RBs back, who then carried him 4 to 7 yards forward, but he hung on and rode the bull down, so there's that, and that is better than Psalm the Whoosher ever was. BBK had speed and could get into the backfield. He just wasn't heavy enough or a good enough tackler to take guys down and out like we want to see. He couldn't push a guard back at all, so he had to run around them, unlike other LBs who can push OLs back, collapse the pocket and disrupt plays. Wish him and his two moms the best in his NFL career.
Taking on blocks is an overrated skill outside of DL. It’s better to anticipate and avoid them. There are times where it’s good to take on a block so a teammate can make the play, but in space, avoid them. Budda was the best at this.
It's not just taking on blocks, but blowing up, or at least engaging the guard and disrupting the OLs two-on-one play by forcing the OT into a one-on-one with the DT, which collapses the pocket. BBK wasn't built to do that. It's not his fault that he's not that big or heavy. That's a recruiting issue.
But he frequently tackled very high and rode on RBs backs because he didn't have the size or strength to collapse the pocket or tackle RBs for a loss when he was in the backfield and getting a hand on them. We frequently saw potential 3 or 4 yard losses turned into 3 or 4 yard gains when BBK started with a hand or arm on a guy in the backfield, but got dragged or carried forward for plus yards.
How many inside linebackers are you watching in today's game that actually do the things you're spelling out? Nobody is looking for a Brian Urlacher type anymore. Being able to diagnose plays and cover sideline to sideline is infinitely more valuable than being able to "blow up" offensive linemen (I honestly cannot remember the last football game where I saw an inside linebacker do that).
It's not hard. How many times did BBK attempt to make a tackle for a loss or no gain? How many times did he succeed? The success ratio tells you all you need to know about his lack of effectiveness in doing that one thing, which is what this thread is about.
He could cover and do lots of other things and had good speed for an LB, but he was not good at tackles for loss, sacks or stopping the run. Again, that's a lack of depth and recruiting issue and not a slam on BBK.
I would cut off my pinky to have BBK as a redshirt senior right now. This defense would look a lot more sound with his speed and instincts* on the field.
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Now do that with a player that one of the recuriting experts loved out of high school and you get a huge spoon of but but but but...
http://m.imgur.com/gallery/SxSMBgg
And like always, it comes back to Newton’s recruiting ranking and opinion of his HS film. If he was a 4 star that was wanted by the big boys, we would hear how physical Newton is and any mistake he made would be because he’s young.
I love Newton. He runs Alpha angry, a style I haven't seen in purple and gold since Corey Dillon. Not saying he's Corey Dillon, so don't twist.
It's not just the DBs to thank for allowing so few explosive plays the past couple of years, we had a true sideline to sideline LB preventing huge runs.
He could cover and do lots of other things and had good speed for an LB, but he was not good at tackles for loss, sacks or stopping the run. Again, that's a lack of depth and recruiting issue and not a slam on BBK.
*RIP @backthepack